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WHY WE HATE BUSH (It's the Stolen Election, Stupid)
Yahoo News ^ | Thu, Sep 25, 2003 | Ted Rall

Posted on 09/25/2003 7:33:39 AM PDT by presidio9

NEW YORK--"Have the Democrats totally flipped their lids?" asks David Brooks in The Weekly Standard, quasi-official organ of the Bush Administration. "Because every day some Democrat seems to make a manic or totally over-the-top statement about George Bush, the Republican party, and the state of the nation today."

True, Democrats loathe Dubya with greater intensity than any Republican standard-bearer in modern political history. Even the diabolical Richard Nixon--who, after all, created the EPA, went to China and imposed price controls to stop corporate gouging--rates higher in liberal eyes. "It's mystifying," writes Brooks.

Let me explain.

First but not foremost, Bush's detractors despise him viscerally, as a man. Where working-class populists see him as a smug, effeminate frat boy who wouldn't recognize a hard day's work if it kicked him in his self-satisfied ass, intellectuals see a simian-faced idiot unqualified to mow his own lawn, much less lead the free world. Another group, which includes me, is more patronizing than spiteful. I feel sorry for the dude; he looks so pathetic, so out of his depth, out there under the klieg lights, squinting, searching for nouns and verbs, looking like he's been snatched from his bed and beamed in, and is still half asleep, not sure where he is. Each speech looks as if Bush had been beamed from his bed fast asleep. And he's willfully ignorant. On Fox News, Bush admits that he doesn't even read the newspaper: "I glance at the headlines just to kind of [sic] a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read [sic] the news themselves." All these takes on Bush boil down to the same thing: The guy who holds the launch codes isn't smart enough to know that's he's stupid. And that's scary.

Fear breeds hatred, and Bush's policies create a lot of both. U.S. citizens like Jose Padilla and Yasser Hamdi disappear into the night, never to be heard from again. A concentration camp rises at Guantánamo. Stasi-like spies tap our phones and read our mail; thanks to the ironically-named Patriot Act, these thugs don't even need a warrant. As individual rights are trampled, corporate profits are sacrosanct. An aggressive, expansionist military invades other nations "preemptively" to eliminate the threat of non-existent weapons, and American troops die to enrich a company that buys off the Vice President.

Time to dust off the F word. "Whenever people start locking up enemies because of national security without much legal care, you are coming close [to fascism]," warns Robert Paxton, emeritus professor of history at Columbia University and author of the upcoming book "Fascism in Action." We're supposed to hate fascists--or has that changed because of 9/11?

Bush bashers hate Bush for his personal hypocrisy--the draft-dodger who went AWOL during Vietnam yet sent other young men to die in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and Iraq (news - web sites), the philandering cocaine addict who dares to call gays immoral--as well as for his attacks on peace and prosperity. But even that doesn't explain why we hate him so much.

Bush is guilty of a single irredeemable act so heinous and anti-American that Nixon's corruption and Reagan's intellectual inferiority pale by comparison. No matter what he does, Democrats and Republicans who love their country more than their party will never forgive him for it.

Bush stole the presidency.

The United States enjoyed two centuries of uninterrupted democracy before George W. Bush came along. The Brits burned the White House, civil war slaughtered millions and depressions brought economic chaos, yet presidential elections always took place on schedule and the winners always took office. Bush ended all that, suing to stop a ballot count that subsequent newspaper recounts proved he had lost. He had his GOP-run Supreme Court, a federal institution, rule extrajurisdictionally on the disputed election, a matter that under our system of laws falls to the states. Bush's recount guru, James Baker, went on national TV to threaten to use force to install him as president if Gore didn't step aside: "If we keep being put in the position of having to respond to recount after recount after recount of the same ballots, then we just can't sit on our hands, and we will be forced to do what might be in our best personal interest--but not--it would not be in the best interest of our wonderful country."

Bush isn't president, but he plays one on TV. His presence in the White House is an affront to everything that this country stands for. His fake presidency is treasonous; our passive tolerance for it sad testimony to post-9/11 cowardice. As I wrote in December 2000, "George W. Bush is not the President of the United States of America." And millions of Americans agree.

Two months after 9/11, when Bush's job approval rating was soaring at 89 percent, 47 percent of Americans told a Gallup poll that he had not won the presidency legitimately. "The election controversy...could make a comeback if Bush's approval ratings were to fall significantly," predicted Byron York in The National Review. Two years later, 3 million jobs are gone, Bush's wars have gone sour, and just 50 percent of voters approve of his performance. If York is correct, most Americans now consider Bush to be no more legitimate than Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), who also came to power in a coup d'état.

And that's why we hate him.


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1 posted on 09/25/2003 7:33:40 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Wow. Ted has got to get over his man-crush on W. ;)
2 posted on 09/25/2003 7:35:20 AM PDT by TheBigB ("Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." --P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: presidio9
Bush bashers hate Bush for his personal hypocrisy--the draft-dodger who went AWOL during Vietnam yet sent other young men to die in Afghanistan <p. Then they must really love Dean who was a Ski bum during Vietnam
3 posted on 09/25/2003 7:36:59 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: TheBigB; Constitution Day
I think Ted and Mark Morford should just get it over with and move in together.
4 posted on 09/25/2003 7:38:08 AM PDT by presidio9 (If [the French] are providing passports, Iím going to ask for Pellegrino)
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To: presidio9
The fact that Bush irritates this raging arsehole so totally, amuses me and gives me great satisfaction. :))
5 posted on 09/25/2003 7:39:11 AM PDT by veronica (http://www.PetitionOnline.com/bombings/petition.html - Homicide bombings = war crimes - sign this!)
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To: presidio9
Amazing, Bush is hated by RATS more than Nixon and Reagan. This should make the 2004 election interesting.
6 posted on 09/25/2003 7:39:11 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: presidio9
Stolen election...ROFLMAO! Ya, that damn electoral college has got to go. Stupid dim-o-crappers!
7 posted on 09/25/2003 7:39:11 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: presidio9
Ted Rall is an overrated, no-talent assclown.

And I bet he's ALREADY Miss Morford's hunka-hunka-burnin' idiot.

8 posted on 09/25/2003 7:39:40 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: presidio9
Everything he believes is a lie. Sad, in a way, how his hatred has blinded him.
9 posted on 09/25/2003 7:39:40 AM PDT by Ramius (--> Post No Bills <--)
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To: presidio9
"I glance at the headlines just to kind of [sic] a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read [sic] the news themselves."

I said in the live thread that that comment is going to bite him in the arse. Why wouldnt he keep abreast of current events? Im assuming he is trying the athlete cliche of "I dont pay attention to the papers". Well Bush is no Pro athlete.

I find it discouraging that he needs to get fed news from his staff than get it himself. Middle of the road people will feel the same.

10 posted on 09/25/2003 7:39:58 AM PDT by smith288 ("The key to our success will be your execution." -Scott Adams)
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To: presidio9
Ted, if you're reading, I point at you and laugh. :)
11 posted on 09/25/2003 7:40:13 AM PDT by TheBigB ("Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." --P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: presidio9
They hate him because unlike the last coward that lived in the White House, a man they held in high esteem, Bush has integrity and honor!
12 posted on 09/25/2003 7:41:31 AM PDT by God luvs America
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To: presidio9
Bush stole the presidency.

In other words, the left still lacks a basic understanding of the Electoral College and the mechanisms involved in winning a plurality of the Electoral Vote.

Ted, go find a political science or history text, then come back once you've figured out reality as opposed to the fantasy world you live in.

13 posted on 09/25/2003 7:42:14 AM PDT by mhking (Why worry? Each one of us is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back...)
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To: presidio9
Why give Rall more exposure than he already gets...
14 posted on 09/25/2003 7:42:26 AM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: Ramius
You have that right. Working class people see GWB as a smug, effeminate frat boy? If that is the case, what do they see Al Gore as? The Rock?
15 posted on 09/25/2003 7:43:05 AM PDT by AngieGOP
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To: presidio9
So, if I prevent something from being stolen from me I am a thief?

Sorta like defining "greed" as "wanting to keep your own money" rather than as "voting for a third party to steal someone else's money and give it to you."

The Left is unencumbered by the dictates of Logic, but, then, so are most children. ;)

16 posted on 09/25/2003 7:45:16 AM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut
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To: presidio9
These pansy-a$$ lefties don't know what the word "hatred" means.


17 posted on 09/25/2003 7:45:36 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("What is a left-wing socialist but a Marxist without a gun?" -- Don Feder)
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To: smith288
You can NOT be serious!! Bush gets FACTS from all kinds of sources...why would he waste time reading second hand stuff??? That's the sign of a good manager and smart person. It would be like a CEO reading The National Enquirer.....geesh.
18 posted on 09/25/2003 7:45:45 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: smith288
The President gets a news briefing every morning. I'm glad he's not wasting time reading the paper. All Presidents get their news that way. Been that way for a long time.
19 posted on 09/25/2003 7:45:52 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Cyanide, mercury, and botulinum toxin are medically and industrially useful friends to mankind.)
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Do not use Yahoo. This is typical.
20 posted on 09/25/2003 7:46:15 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Celebrate Globalism)
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To: presidio9
Those of us in flyover country and not in never-never land like Ted Rall who writes from New York (need I say anything else) doesn't have a clue that there's a whole America in between the NY and California.

I'll put him and Bush on a farm any day of the week. Bush will outwork and out-hustle this geek 24/7.

And Bush's degrees from Yale AND Harvard far outstrip anything accomplished by Gore, the hulking, sulking debater who invented the internet.
21 posted on 09/25/2003 7:46:32 AM PDT by xzins (How shall they hear?)
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To: presidio9
Wow. The man is mentally unhinged.

Was Rall the one who penned that disgusting cartoon with Bush flying into the twin towers?
22 posted on 09/25/2003 7:47:14 AM PDT by Semi Civil Servant ("Only liberal speech is protected by the Constitution." -- The ACLU)
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To: presidio9
If arnold becomes CA governor, get ready for the same article only with the name changed.
23 posted on 09/25/2003 7:48:28 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: risen_feenix
Why give Rall more exposure than he already gets...

For the same reasons I post Morford:
A) We waste our time if we sit around here only reading stuff that we all agree with.
B) The guy is such a goofy nutcase that most of the liberal lurkers who stop by are embarassed by him.
C) He scans this site periodically and he does care what you think.

Take your pick.

24 posted on 09/25/2003 7:50:06 AM PDT by presidio9 (If [the French] are providing passports, Iím going to ask for Pellegrino)
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To: finnman69
Then they must really love Dean who was a Ski bum during Vietnam

I used to date a fairly staunch feminist, who, when I'd point out some (and there were many) inconsistency between something she'd said about women and something else about men, would respond with, "That's different."

Double standard, you know ...

25 posted on 09/25/2003 7:54:46 AM PDT by Marauder (If God lived on earth, liberals would sue Him.)
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To: Semi Civil Servant
Was Rall the one who penned that disgusting cartoon with Bush flying into the twin towers?

Yep, and Yahoo published an article by him in March titled "Don't Support Or Troops," where he compared American soldiers to Nazi Stormtroopers. He suffers from fascinating delusions. Just remember that no matter how good or bad a job the President is doing there will always be a small precantage of brain-damaged irrationals.

26 posted on 09/25/2003 7:55:17 AM PDT by presidio9 (If [the French] are providing passports, Iím going to ask for Pellegrino)
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To: finnman69
Amazing, Bush is hated by RATS more than Nixon and Reagan. This should make the 2004 election interesting.

And notice, both got reelected in landslides. In the end, the Dem's all consuming pathology might bode well for Bush.

27 posted on 09/25/2003 7:55:32 AM PDT by CaptainK
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To: presidio9
Time to dust off the F word. "Whenever people start locking up enemies because of national security without much legal care, you are coming close [to fascism]," warns Robert Paxton, emeritus professor of history at Columbia University and author of the upcoming book "Fascism in Action." We're supposed to hate fascists--or has that changed because of 9/11?

Why is it that Libs care more about our enemies then they do about Americans??

28 posted on 09/25/2003 7:55:50 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: presidio9
I suppose it's good news if Ted wants to insist on the following as "facts":

- that W is "effeminate";
- that Gore won,
---because, you see, Gore won in Florida;

etc. Good. The truth makes one free, but Rall is still in the chains of his favorite falsehoods.
29 posted on 09/25/2003 7:55:57 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: presidio9
to stop a ballot count that subsequent newspaper recounts proved he had lost.

Oh, the lies some whisper to themselves as they suck their thumbs and clutch their blankies round 'bout themselves in order to continue their insane delusions.

First, the ballots were counted and recounted, and so it was not a ballot "count" that was called over, but yet another recount.

And we can wait until the end of time, but Rall cannot produce ONE "newspaper recount", let alone the plural "recounts" that he uses, to show that George W. Bush lost. Not one.

As to a smug, effeminate frat boy who wouldn't recognize a hard day's work if it kicked him..., somebody please post a picture of Dubya and his chainsaw. LOL

30 posted on 09/25/2003 7:55:59 AM PDT by cyncooper (I believe VP Cheney)
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To: presidio9
I has nothing at all to do with being voted out of power in 2000 and having the vote extended to the Senate in 2002, nor does it have anything to do with the apparent certainty that 2004 will be a Republican rout. ;^)
31 posted on 09/25/2003 7:57:50 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Ann Archy
You can NOT be serious!! Bush gets FACTS from all kinds of sources...why would he waste time reading second hand stuff??? That's the sign of a good manager and smart person. It would be like a CEO reading The National Enquirer.....geesh.

Yes, im serious. Bush is a big boy and can distiguish rags from quality news. I dont see why it is such a big deal to open up a newspaper with your cup of coffee in the morning and say "Yea, I sometimes look over the headlines..." (which I have to believe he does)

Sounds alot better than "No...I got people to do that". Just doesnt sound real plugged in to me. (yes, im still voting for him, just trying to view it from a middle-roader)

32 posted on 09/25/2003 7:57:53 AM PDT by smith288 ("The key to our success will be your execution." -Scott Adams)
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To: smith288
I find it discouraging that he needs to get fed news from his staff than get it himself.

He doesn't "need" to. He has bigger fish to fry and access to the real information that the papers turn around and misreport. His staff is there to tell him how the libs are spinning it and what the tone and such is. But when it comes to the news, he has the authentic sources and knows what's really going on.

33 posted on 09/25/2003 7:58:40 AM PDT by cyncooper (I believe VP Cheney)
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To: presidio9
the draft-dodger who went AWOL during Vietnam yet sent other young men to die in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and Iraq (news - web sites)

That has been debunked: How to Answer the AWOL Accusation

the philandering cocaine addict

Ummm...I think he has his Presidents confused, the only proven philandering cocaine addict was Clinton . I have heard the cocaine charge before, but they have never produced proof. But philandering? Where did that charge come from and what is their proof?

who dares to call gays immoral

Ummm...maybe because they are, according to the Bible.

as well as for his attacks on peace and prosperity.

The only attacks on peace and prosperity have come from Al Qaeda.

34 posted on 09/25/2003 7:59:15 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: presidio9
Bush ended all that, suing to stop a ballot count that subsequent newspaper recounts proved he had lost

Uhh, Ted???? Earth to Ted??? EVERY ONE of the NUMEROUS newspaper and academia recounts that I've seen -- NYTimes, WPost, Miami Herald, USA Today, U.of Miami ... all say that the Supremes' decision didn't matter because BUSH WOULD HAVE WON ANYWAY, even if the recount had gone on, and even if Gore's methods were used for chad-counting.

Ted. Put down the glass pipe.
35 posted on 09/25/2003 8:00:17 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: cyncooper
When are these wack-jobs going to realize that losing a razor-thin-close election, while incredibly and deeply disappointing and depressing, does NOT mean the other guy cheated and you really won?

It means you lost by a hair-thin margin, and that's all it means.
36 posted on 09/25/2003 8:00:51 AM PDT by Kingasaurus
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To: smith288
I find it discouraging that he needs to get fed news from his staff than get it himself. Middle of the road people will feel the same.

He gets a daily briefing of current events and threats to our country.

Why would he need to read articles like this?

I might add .. Clinton may have read all the gooing reports about him in the papers

But he never bothered to have time for the CIA Director to get daily briefings

37 posted on 09/25/2003 8:01:06 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: presidio9
"Bush stole the presidency."

Ted, Algore lost Tennessee!

38 posted on 09/25/2003 8:01:34 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (The barbarians are inside the gates!)
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To: presidio9
True, Democrats loathe Dubya with greater intensity than any Republican standard-bearer in modern political history.

What short memories these guys have. Recent Democrat history is chock-full of similar hatred. Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan were easily as loathed by Democrats. George H. W. Bush was only moderately less so.

I don't bother to ask why Democrats hate a particular Republican president. The hatred comes with the job. The reasons are manufactured as needed.

39 posted on 09/25/2003 8:02:21 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: mhking
the left still lacks a basic understanding

I don't think that's true; they know as well as anyone else that Gore was trying to steal the election, in cahoots with the SCOFFLAw liberal justices, and William Daly, son of the champion election-rigger of all time, "Hizzonner" Charles Daly, Sr.

What they're mad about - and won't admit to - is that the SCOTUS stopped that by making FLorida's vote-mining democRats play by the rules.

democRats have long sworn by Stalin's philosophy of counting the votes however they want to. I remember growing up in South Texas and hearing all the facts and figures surrounding LBJ's blatant theft of the 1948 US Senate election from "Coke" Stevenson, aided by El Patron George Parr, the infamous Duke of Duval County.

40 posted on 09/25/2003 8:03:14 AM PDT by Marauder (If God lived on earth, liberals would sue Him.)
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To: smith288
Why should W read an AP story speculating on the latest developments on the CIA's search for bin Laden when he has the source material?

Besides, maybe he forgoes the newspapers for FR.

41 posted on 09/25/2003 8:04:57 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: presidio9
In other words - to make this very simple - they hate Bush because he's very, very good at his job.
Demons always shriek while being cast out. Their squeals have been getting much louder lately.
It's hard to hold anything against a rightous man, and it's killing them.
Well done, Mr. President.
42 posted on 09/25/2003 8:05:06 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Snuffington
I don't bother to ask why Democrats hate a particular Republican president.

There are plenty of hysterical liberals who still hate Ronald Reagan. Even after the man restored America's place in the world, ended the Cold War, and gave us the longest period of economic prosperity in history.

43 posted on 09/25/2003 8:05:43 AM PDT by presidio9 (If [the French] are providing passports, Iím going to ask for Pellegrino)
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To: smith288
The suggestion that the President ought to get his information from newspaper articles is ludicrous. The general public does not trust news reporters and the general public is correct.

Except for direct, attributed quotes, every news story should be regarded with suspicion, and usually cannot be said to be true or false until after it is borne out by events. Reporters are not always truthful about the information they convey and when they are truthful, their information is from a leak. Why would the president not know more than the leaker?
44 posted on 09/25/2003 8:06:10 AM PDT by Marylander
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To: Kingasaurus
Such are the vicissitudes of elections when a major portion of your constituency is made up of functional incompetents gullible enuff to buy into your program but unable to punch a card properly. ;)
45 posted on 09/25/2003 8:07:24 AM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut
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To: cyncooper
He doesn't "need" to. He has bigger fish to fry and access to the real information that the papers turn around and misreport. His staff is there to tell him how the libs are spinning it and what the tone and such is. But when it comes to the news, he has the authentic sources and knows what's really going on.

I KNOW this.... But if I try viewing it as someone who is not sure of Bush, I can interpret him as not real engaged with the news. "I got people to do it." doesnt work in my book.

What he should have said
Brit: "Do you read newspapers?"
Bush: "Every morning I have important information and current events going on in the world ready for me. I like to stay informed and also like to know how my Rangers are doing."

Sounds engaged, yet news is still being provided. Also shows humor.

This is just my interpretation...which means other could be feeling it. Just saying that im wrong doesnt make people not think it, especially potential voters.

46 posted on 09/25/2003 8:08:57 AM PDT by smith288 ("The key to our success will be your execution." -Scott Adams)
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To: Kingasaurus
When are these wack-jobs going to realize that losing a razor-thin-close election, while incredibly and deeply disappointing and depressing, does NOT mean the other guy cheated and you really won?

Oh, come on. Every time my favorite football team loses by a point, I know they paid off the refs. I just know it.

47 posted on 09/25/2003 8:09:20 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: presidio9
Fear breeds hatred...

U.S. citizens disappear into the night...

A concentration camp rises at Guantánamo...

American troops die to enrich a company that buys off the Vice President...

Bush is guilty of a single irredeemable act so heinous and anti-American...Bush stole the presidency.

It appears that Rall writes cartoons as well as draws them. This piece is overheated, over-the-top BS. Maybe seeing the world in caracatured form is helpful for his cartooning, but it sure makes Rall's writing hard to take anything like seriously.

48 posted on 09/25/2003 8:10:08 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: smith288
Don't worry about it. The honesty of the statement will reinforce his sincerity. If anybody's bothered by such a thing, they've already bought the "Bush is stupid" line.
49 posted on 09/25/2003 8:10:51 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: smith288
I find it discouraging that he needs to get fed news from his staff than get it himself.

Most of the liberal news is overly emotional Bush bashing anyway. There's nothing important he doesn't already know. Reading the words of fools can distort a persons reality, especially if taken seriously.
I don't blame him for using his time more productively. Smart man!

50 posted on 09/25/2003 8:11:30 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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