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University Shuts Down Anti-Affirmative Action Bake Sale
Associated Press via FoxNews.com ^ | Wednesday, September 24, 2003

Posted on 09/25/2003 7:43:48 AM PDT by Poseidon

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

DALLAS Southern Methodist University (search) shut down a bake sale Wednesday in which cookies were offered for sale at different prices, depending on the buyer's race or gender.

The sale was organized by the Young Conservatives of Texas, who said it was intended as a protest of affirmative action (search).


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KEYWORDS: aa; affirmativeaction; bakesale; college; cookies; diversity; doublestandard; hypocrisy; pc; politicallycorrect; racebaiting; racialdivision; racism; smu; texas; university; ussupremecourt
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Matt Houston, a 19-year-old sophomore, called the group's price list offensive.

"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

Sounds like it's based on race to me...

1 posted on 09/25/2003 7:43:49 AM PDT by Poseidon
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To: Poseidon
People who recieve favoritism are alway's going to percieve things differently than the one's having to pay for it. It's blatantly biased against whites but it doesn't seem to matter, so much for equal rights.
2 posted on 09/25/2003 7:47:10 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II (your)
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To: Poseidon
"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

Why, Matt. They were just trying to build a diverse bake sale community. What's the problem? You need to have a snack and relax.

3 posted on 09/25/2003 7:49:33 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Poseidon
I love these SMU students. This is a great stunt.
4 posted on 09/25/2003 7:52:31 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Poseidon
It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

LOL

5 posted on 09/25/2003 7:54:39 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: staytrue
Great stunt indeed.

Reminds me of smoking cigars outside the Student Union on Great American Smoke-Out Day in November.
6 posted on 09/25/2003 7:55:30 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: Poseidon
Matt Houston? Wasn't that a bad television detective show?
7 posted on 09/25/2003 7:56:20 AM PDT by 38special
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To: All
Good time to read my tagline.
8 posted on 09/25/2003 7:58:31 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance seem to have the least for my views.)
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To: 38special
yeah, it was about a clueless black guy who went around solving crimes by making inaccurate observations about social situations.
9 posted on 09/25/2003 8:00:21 AM PDT by Semaphore Heathcliffe ("Allow myself to introduce...myself.")
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To: Poseidon
The posting of the original DMN article about the incident included this nugget:

""I felt they were attempting to make Hispanics and blacks feel inferior. We jumped over the same hoops to get there.""

...... and you didn't have to pay full price for the cookies either...

10 posted on 09/25/2003 8:01:43 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: Poseidon
"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."
___________________________________________

i.e. "Achieving diversity of race isn't based on race, it's based on diversity." The sad thing is, five of the most repected legal minds in the country actually bought that argument.
11 posted on 09/25/2003 8:02:33 AM PDT by Texas Federalist
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To: Poseidon
Matt Houston, a 19-year-old sophomore...My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students...

Yeah, I used to say all kinds of stoopid sh!t when I was that age too. Though this guy sounds like an overly blovating a$$ bag who has been brainwashed by the liberal intelligensia.

12 posted on 09/25/2003 8:03:24 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: Poseidon
I'm just so sure the ACLU is mounting a free speech lawsuit in support of this group (although can't hold my breath that long. lol).
13 posted on 09/25/2003 8:04:53 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Poseidon
" It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

... and therefore the brothers were so righteously angry that they "confronted" those holding the sale, causing the University to shut it down because it was creating an unsafe situation.

14 posted on 09/25/2003 8:06:22 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (South-south-west, south, south-east, east....)
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To: Ready4Freddy
"This was not an issue about free speech," Tim Moore, director of the SMU student center, said in a story for Thursday's edition of The Dallas Morning News. "It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created."

It would only be about free speech if the cookies were shaped like gay men or a cruicifix dipped in urine. Then, the campus police would be called out to protect the Liberals selling the cookies, and anyone who objected would be denounced as a small-minded Christian bigot.

Also note that THEY, the Liberal Intelligencia, get to determine the definition of "hostile environment." It is always the Libs who determine who is the opressed, and who is the opressor...

15 posted on 09/25/2003 8:07:22 AM PDT by 50sDad ("There are FOUR LIGHTS! FOUR LIGHTS!")
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To: Poseidon
The group sold three cookies during its protest, raising $1.50.


Hmmm... they must have sold the three cookies to Hispanics, given their rates.
16 posted on 09/25/2003 8:11:10 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Poseidon
An enterprising black student would have snapped up the whole table of cookies at 25 cents apiece, and then quickly set up his own table to sell to everyone at 50 cents apiece. Much more profitable to pounce on an "opportunity" than to whine about a "hostile situation".
17 posted on 09/25/2003 8:11:59 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Poseidon
"It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created."

As when, oh say..... one person has more required of him/her than another of different race/gender in order to qualify for the same (public funded) benefit? Hmmmmm.

18 posted on 09/25/2003 8:12:32 AM PDT by Feckless
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To: 50sDad
So you're thinking that the director of the Student Center (a glorified cafeteria manager) is a member of 'the Liberal Intelligencia'?
19 posted on 09/25/2003 8:16:09 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: Poseidon
This was not an issue about free speech," Tim Moore, director of the SMU student center, said in a story for Thursday's edition of The Dallas Morning News. "It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created."

Translation- if enough members of aggrieved groups get together and start shouting, they'll get their way.

Who created the hostile environment Mr. moore? The students having the bake sale, or the people yelling at them and potentially threatening a riot?

20 posted on 09/25/2003 8:16:23 AM PDT by Modernman ("Oh no, the dead have risen and they're voting Republican"- Lisa Simpson)
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To: Feckless
SMU is a private university.
21 posted on 09/25/2003 8:17:21 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: Poseidon
"This was not an issue about free speech," Tim Moore, director of the SMU student center, said in a story for Thursday's edition of The Dallas Morning News. "It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created."

Sounds like the admissions office of that particular institution (among others) would be a pretty hostile place to be if you happen to be a white guy applying for admission.

22 posted on 09/25/2003 8:19:02 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Poseidon
The group sold three cookies during its protest, raising $1.50.

Sounds like 3 Hispanic students at least had a sense of humor.

23 posted on 09/25/2003 8:19:41 AM PDT by Grit (Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
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To: Poseidon
So in about 10 years when the enterprising Young Conservatives of Texas members are gainfully employed and starting their own businesses....the whiners who gained access to SMU via affirmative action will have dropped out of college because they couldn't carry the academic load.

They will then be whining to the goverment to increase the minimum wage at their burger joint jobs.
24 posted on 09/25/2003 8:20:18 AM PDT by all4one
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To: Grit
No way, all 3 Hispanic students at SMU were in class that day, I checked.
25 posted on 09/25/2003 8:21:04 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: Poseidon
I smell a lawsuit.
26 posted on 09/25/2003 8:21:16 AM PDT by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: GOP_Proud
Good time to read my tagline.

Sorry, but as you can see from my tagline-- tolerance is reserved only for the tolerant. Your views are intolerant ,thus we don't have to tolerate them. Or something like that.

27 posted on 09/25/2003 8:21:58 AM PDT by Grit (Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
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To: Poseidon
The campus Republicans at UCLA did the same thing a few months back. They were shouted at and actually ended up cutting it short when angry fans of diversity and tolerance started throwing the stuff they were trying to sell (oreos and twinkies IIRC).
28 posted on 09/25/2003 8:23:57 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Ready4Freddy
We jumped over the same hoops to get there.

Well there lies the problem. Whites get to jump through the hoops, while minorities must jump over them. It is truly unfair.

29 posted on 09/25/2003 8:24:23 AM PDT by Grit (Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
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To: Jimbaugh
By whome. I think those that had the bake sale have a right to free speach and if that was stopped well....
30 posted on 09/25/2003 8:25:01 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Ready4Freddy; Grit
Hey guys, it didn't have to be 3 Latinos, it could have been a white boy and two brothers, or a brother, a babe and a latino. ;-)
31 posted on 09/25/2003 8:25:44 AM PDT by StriperSniper (The slippery slope is getting steeper.)
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To: 38special
http://www.tvtome.com/images/shows/0/9/79-5785-sm.jpg
32 posted on 09/25/2003 8:27:00 AM PDT by Texas Federalist
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To: StriperSniper
I believe that I proved conclusively in post #25 that it was not 3 Hispanics buying the cookies....
33 posted on 09/25/2003 8:28:24 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: StriperSniper
Maybe just one hungry Latino bought 3 cookies.
34 posted on 09/25/2003 8:28:26 AM PDT by Grit (Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
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To: Poseidon
The sign should have also said: "Alumni Legatees -- Free; Football Players, Basketball Players, and Baseball Players -- We'll pay you a dollar to eat our cookies.
35 posted on 09/25/2003 8:30:02 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Ready4Freddy
Oh right, so It must have been...umm...Damn this NEW math!
36 posted on 09/25/2003 8:30:10 AM PDT by Grit (Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
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To: Grit; Ready4Freddy
We better get their Math Department on this word problem right away! ;-)
37 posted on 09/25/2003 8:31:59 AM PDT by StriperSniper (The slippery slope is getting steeper.)
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To: Poseidon
"Members of the conservative group said they meant no offense and were only trying to protest the use of race or gender as a factor in college admissions."

Geez, I hate when good guys weasel like this. We should never pick our words based on whether some clymer will be offended or not. Black students at SMU who are already stressted and feeling inferior because they would not survive to graduation without being graded on a separate scale, are ALWAYS going to be offended by anything that tends to highlight the disparity, the double standard.

Once you apologize for offending, the clymer is able to control your words by claiming offense and throwing your apology back at you. If a good guy feels he must apologize, apologize that the clymer is so insecure that he feels offended.

The good guys also missed a major opportunity by not calling it an "Affirmative Action Bake Sale," designed to bring diversity to the customer base by not just catering to the wealthy folks who could afford a buck a cookie.

38 posted on 09/25/2003 8:33:47 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: Poseidon
Get David Limbaugh's new book, "Persecution". He really nails the "diversity" bullshit!
39 posted on 09/25/2003 8:34:28 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: StriperSniper; Grit
LOL to dabodayuz! :)
40 posted on 09/25/2003 8:36:14 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: Poseidon
What a creative idea? People learn quickly using visual effects. Hats off in salute to the students for a wonderful idea.
41 posted on 09/25/2003 8:36:54 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Poseidon
Sounds good to me. That is the way college admission is priced. One problem, they forgot to say "Illegal Mexicans: FREE".
42 posted on 09/25/2003 8:37:00 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Read Travis McGee's Book! www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JohnGalt
You guys just smoked cigars? Alot of people at my school made a point of smoking more than just cigars on the Great American Smoke-Up Day.
43 posted on 09/25/2003 8:37:11 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: Labyrinthos
"sign should have also said"

Transgendered: $1.25 -- Twinky cut in half and then smashed.
44 posted on 09/25/2003 8:38:44 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Maybe this "Army Of One" is a good thing - You Gotta Admire the 3rd Infantry Accomplishments)
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To: staytrue
UCLA Bake Sale Stirs Up Controversy
45 posted on 09/25/2003 8:40:03 AM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: Labyrinthos
It was a affimrative action bake sale, not a 'ridiculously overhyped college sports' bake sale. One sale at a time.

(Besides, legatees would be paying about $0.95. If you think legacy counts for much compared with race, check the U. Mich. data.)

46 posted on 09/25/2003 8:41:21 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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"A black student filed a complaint with SMU, saying the sale was offensive."

Hmmm...so...do you think he finally got the point???

47 posted on 09/25/2003 8:46:49 AM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: Ready4Freddy
Knowing SMU graduates, the $1.50 might have been raised by selling many cookies to whites at retail, but giving the "good ol' boys" a large rebate on the golf course.
48 posted on 09/25/2003 8:47:55 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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