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Peterson, Frey had frequent contact
The Modesto Bee ^ | Sept 25, 2003 | John Cote' and Garth Stapely

Posted on 09/25/2003 9:11:02 AM PDT by runningbear

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To: Spunky; Sandylapper; Jackie-O; Devil_Anse; Canadian Outrage; All
Hi Spunky.This is a quote from your post.
"They don't say if the call originated from Amber's phone or Scott's phone or what time this call was made. If the call originated from Amber's phone, I wonder if they are positive Amber talked with Scott or maybe Laci picked up the phone and then got into a confrontation with Scott."

There are three sources that it was Amber who called Scott the Dec 23rd.The first is Greta VanSusteren speaking to Howard Breuer.Here is the conversation from the transcript.
Van Susteren: All right. Howard,Dec 23,a phone call from Amber Frey,the girlfriend. Can you tell us the details?
Breuer: Well,we don't know the details of the call. There's speculation that that might have set off a heavy argument between Scott and Laci....
The second source is from Catherine Crier,and it was posted on court TV. A reported call had been placed from Amber the night before Christmas Eve to Laci and Scott's house.
The third source is an article from the CBS affiliate Channel 5. It was posted on their website,the pix page,titled,New Information About scott Peterson's Affair,which goes on to say,"Channel 5 reports that on Dec 23,Frey called the Peterson home and Laci reportly answered the phone".
101 posted on 09/26/2003 11:23:34 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Velveeta
This sounds terrible but if you were going to wrap Laci, I can picture this: Lay out the tarp, lay Laci on it. Take one end and fold it down and secure it by taping it in the crotch area. The take the other end and tape it beyond the crotch area. In other words, there are no ends to open and the head and feet. When the tarp deteriorated and or broke loose, the tape remained.
102 posted on 09/26/2003 11:34:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: runningbear
Thanks, rb! Somehow I didn't get pinged to this new thread. Would you please check on it?
103 posted on 09/26/2003 11:58:25 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: runningbear
Fuggetabout my request, rb! Having a senior moment here.
104 posted on 09/26/2003 12:01:25 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: My2Cents
Who in Hollywood could possibly match Laci's smile?
105 posted on 09/26/2003 12:05:14 PM PDT by BSunday
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To: MaggieMay; All
IIRC, Amber's father vehemently denied on national TV that Amber ever spoke to Laci.
106 posted on 09/26/2003 12:05:18 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
Your correct. The source was KTVU. Ted Rowlands--in a telephone conversation,Ron Frey--Amber's father--said his daughter denies making such a call.(calling the Peterson house Dec23,and Laci answering the phone)
107 posted on 09/26/2003 1:03:32 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Spunky
LOL! Well, it's been hard to get a mental picture of what Laci might have been wearing when she was killed, anyway.

When the body was found, we kept hearing about "a maternity bra". Then later we heard that remnants of cream-colored maternity pants had been found on the body. This sounded like a clear contradiction of what Scott said she was wearing when he last saw her: black pants, white shirt.

OTOH, cream-colored maternity pants, I think, sort of matched what Amy said Laci wore when Amy last saw her, the evening of the 23rd. And there's a videotape, I think, that will back up whatever Amy says.

Of course, Scott's lawyers will simply say something like, "Laci was wearing black pants when Scott last saw her, but apparently she changed after that."
108 posted on 09/26/2003 1:21:39 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: MaggieMay
Good work, Maggie! Makes it pretty clear.
109 posted on 09/26/2003 1:22:30 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Sandylapper
"Amber's father vehemently denied on national TV that Amber ever spoke to Laci."

You're right, I remember that he said that--though I didn't see him on TV. (I read about it here!)

Well, though, old Ron Frey was clearly basking in the attention, and IMO, he talks out his *** at times. Furthermore, it's possible that Scott actually answered that call. I mean, he could've been with Laci when the call came. Imagine him grinning, etc. My brother has more than one female friend, and you should see the one girlfriend when the other one calls him. She knows instantly that something funny is going on, even though she can't hear who it is on the other end. Laci may have said, "who's that?" and have demanded an explanation.
110 posted on 09/26/2003 1:27:09 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: MaggieMay
Did Ron deny that she called the house at all, or only deny that she talked directly to Laci? And did Ron deny that she might have called Scott on a cellphone? I can't remember the answers to these questions. Furthermore, IMO, Ron has pretended to know more about Amber's affair than he probably really knows. He likes the limelight!
111 posted on 09/26/2003 1:28:59 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
That a direct quote, from the the article(I wrote the entire quote,verbatim).
112 posted on 09/26/2003 1:35:16 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
Okay. Thanks!
113 posted on 09/26/2003 2:03:22 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
This is not necessarily gospel, for I've already had one senior moment today, but the wording of Ron Frey's denial was a little suspect. Seems to me that he was denying specifically that Amber had ever spoken to Laci directly on the phone. IIRC, it did not rule out the possibility that she might have phoned the residence. Maybe Scott answered, or possibly no one was at home, and she could have left a message.
114 posted on 09/26/2003 2:03:34 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: thoughtomator
You're reading this thread in the first place to titillate yourselves

Speak for yourself you sophmoric twit.

I can't speak for Hildy, but I follow this thread in hopes that another O.J. debacle is not repeated.

115 posted on 09/26/2003 3:23:56 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: Devil_Anse
Of course, Scott's lawyers will simply say something like, "Laci was wearing black pants when Scott last saw her, but apparently she changed after that."

Or... "Laci's black pants got bleached out in that same swimming pool that attacked Scaught's hair."

116 posted on 09/26/2003 3:46:47 PM PDT by Diver Dave (My anchor holds the Solid Rock)
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To: Devil_Anse
Ron Frey DID vehemently deny that Amber ever spoke to Laci. Also, I doubt Peterson gave her his home number. It was probably one of his other FIVE numbers!!
117 posted on 09/26/2003 4:09:29 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: MaggieMay
"There are three sources that it was Amber who called Scott the Dec 23rd."

Wow! Are these quotes recent? After this article came out on all the calls made or were they from way back when Amber's father denied that she had ever called Laci?

I have so many questions I would like to know the answer to.

1. If Amber thought Scott was going to be in England or France, (or wherever it was) over Christmas, like was said in some articles, why would she call him on his cell phone on Christmas Eve? Do cell phones go across continents?

2. To my knowledge it has never been said whether or not Amber knew Scott lived in Modesto but I find it hard to believe she didn't know. I have never had a cell phone, but wouldn't their number indicate a local like a regular phone's area code?

Since I believe she knew where he lived and she has a sister living in Modesto, I think she had her sister check him out.

118 posted on 09/26/2003 4:29:50 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: Devil_Anse
".....it's possible that Scott actually answered that call. I mean, he could've been with Laci when the call came. Imagine him grinning, etc."

When my husband answers the phone I can almost always tell who he is talking to by his mannerism and the different tone his voice has depending on who he is talking to.

If Scott did get the call from Amber I can just imagine his tone and mannerism was so different that Laci would have had lots of suspicion.

I am still of the feeling though that Amber and Laci talked but I guess we will never know.

119 posted on 09/26/2003 4:35:16 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: Canadian Outrage; Devil_Anse; MaggieMay; All
Help me out, here, CO. Wasn't the rumor/possibility discussed about the same time this was supposed to be happening (a couple of weeks before Christmas), that Amber had hired a private detective to check Scott's story that he was unmarried? Some on the thread speculated that maybe Amber had gotten Scott's home address and phone number from the alleged detective. But, I'm with you...I don't think Scott gave Amber his home phone number.
120 posted on 09/26/2003 4:42:31 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Spunky
This is all from way back when Ron Frey gave the orginal denial.The Ted Rowlands phone interview with Ron Frey was April 24th.

I do remember from way back when,that Scott called Amber from "Maine",Dec.24th
121 posted on 09/26/2003 4:46:32 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
"I do remember from way back when,that Scott called Amber from "Maine",Dec.24th"

How could that be? He was fishing near Berkely, CA on the 24th and when he got home from fishing he said Laci was missing.

122 posted on 09/26/2003 4:56:31 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: Spunky
The phone call from Maine,was a ruse. He had told Amber he was going to be out of town. Maine was one of the places Scott had told Amber he was going to be visiting.
123 posted on 09/26/2003 5:01:25 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay; All
The Ted Rowlands phone interview with Ron Frey was April 24th.

You mean, I didn't see Ron Frey denying this on national TV? I thought I did. My apologies.

124 posted on 09/26/2003 5:02:28 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
This is from an interview between Ted Rowlands and Ron Frey.This could have been televised and what you were thinking of.I do not have a date for this interview.

Ted Rowlands:"Scott Peterson has said on several occasions that he told Amber about his wife shortly after Laci disappeared without a trace on Christmas Eve. But Ron Frey said that is not the case.

Ron Frey:"Amber figured it out herself, Scott didn't tell her," Ron Frey said. "She had a client (Amber works as a massage therapist) who was a detective. They compared notes and figured out who is was - is - and she came forward." "

Does any one else remember Ron Frey, telling another interviewer,that Amber learned who Scott was, from Eva Frey her sister?
125 posted on 09/26/2003 5:20:23 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
So I'm confused now...did Snott call Amber on the 24th??? The day that Laci "went missing"? I know there is a report that there was a call between them on the 23rd..that itself is enough to speculate on. But if there is a record of a call when he was "sturgeon fishing" in the bay, that woud be even curiouser. (is that even a word?)
126 posted on 09/26/2003 5:39:26 PM PDT by Jackie-O (!)
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To: Devil_Anse
Hey, what happened to our pal Don Knotts??? Did he get the big Zot that the jackass Will got on Richard's thread?
127 posted on 09/26/2003 5:42:02 PM PDT by Jackie-O (!)
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To: Jackie-O; Spunky
Way,Way,Way back,I thought,I remembered reading, that Scott had called Amber on Dec 24th,from "Maine". But perhaps, the wording was slightly different, and I misinterpreted, what was actually said. It now appears that is the case, since no one else seems to remember a senario, like that phone call.Sorry Spunky and Jackie-o if that confused you. :)
128 posted on 09/26/2003 6:02:18 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Sandylapper
Hey Sandy!! I do remember us discussing that item a lot. However, I don't think we ever came to a conclusion or ever found out if Amber had gotten information from a Private Detective, if there was one. However, I am clear on the fact that her father was adamant that she had NEVER called nor spoken with Laci!! In fact, if you recall when she gave her press conference, she seemed quite shaken at having discovered "via the news" that Laci Peterson was Scott's wife and was missing!!
129 posted on 09/26/2003 6:37:44 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Sandylapper; All
This is the answer to my question from post #125.
I found the quote from Ron Frey, that it was Eva who figured out who Scott Peterson really was.
This is from a Modesto bee:
http://www.modbee.com/reports/laci/story/6358638p-7307180c.html
This is a quote from that article"
"When the Peterson case hit the news, Frey said, his family did not realize that the
Scott Peterson being mentioned was the same person whom Amber Frey was dating.

Ron Frey's oldest daughter, Ava, made the connection. She lives in Modesto, not far
from Scott and Laci Peterson's home on Covena Avenue; she said she did not know them.

"I had this picture on my refrigerator and it took me three days to realize
the guy in the picture was the same guy in the newspaper," Ron Frey said. "

130 posted on 09/26/2003 6:40:44 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Spunky
He was LYING Spunky. Don't you remember the Gloria Gomez interview with Snott in his house? She pinned by the ears into a corner about his lies. eg. She said, Amber says you called her on December 24th and said you were visiting with family in Maine and that after the holidays you had to take a business trip to Paris. He said No I never talked to Amber on December 24th. She kept on him and exposed his lies. Finally, he said, "Look, I'm not going to waste the little time we have left here talking about me, we should be concentrating on finding Laci!! GAG!!
131 posted on 09/26/2003 6:42:17 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: MaggieMay
I don't ever remember Amber saying she found out about Scott through her sister. That is news to me. I don't think that's true myself. That in itself is at odds with what Amber herself said.
132 posted on 09/26/2003 6:44:33 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Spunky
Cell phones do cross continents now, and one of the reasons they are so popular is that the number now stays with you, no matter where you move. So, if one was always traveling, and only making periodic trips internationally, no need to buy a new phone. T Mobile is good example, just depends on what service plan you purchase.

So, one would not know if a call was placed from outside the country on this phone. As to Amber calling him, she would be placing a call to his basic number. Who's to say he didn't originally get the cell phone with a San Diego phone number? Or, any other city for this very purpose of displaying on caller-id (girlfriends-given that we know Amber wasn't the first). He tells Laci this is his "international"/business cell phone. Thus, it explains calls at all hours, etc.

I seem to remember that there were at least 4-5 mobile phones involved with Scott, but some could well have been other family members.

133 posted on 09/26/2003 6:44:50 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (RB and RG have memories like elephants, thankfully for those of us who read but post infrequently)
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To: MaggieMay
Oh Mags, I take that back. I don't recall Amber's Dad or Amber saying she found out through her sister. I thought her comment was that "when she found out from Televison....then she contacted the Police right away.
134 posted on 09/26/2003 6:47:09 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Rusty Roberts
Good point.!!
135 posted on 09/26/2003 6:49:09 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
I'm getting out of this office right now. I'll take this back up when I get home. BBL!!
136 posted on 09/26/2003 6:50:45 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage; Spunky; Jackie-O
Oh,Thank You! CanadianOutrage,for post # 131, and for remembering it was Gloria Gomez,that quoted Amber as saying, Scott called her Dec 24th while visiting his family in Maine.
137 posted on 09/26/2003 6:56:10 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Devil_Anse
DA, talk about compussive obssessive. I find it espcially notable the 14 calls in one day immediately following Laci's disappearance. While everyone is frantically looking for Laci, Scott is on the phone with Amber. This was the most critical time of Laci's case and Where's Waldo? The man could only turn to one person, and it wasn't anyone who knew Laci, just why was that, if he wasn't involved?
138 posted on 09/26/2003 7:01:32 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (RB and RG have memories like elephants, thankfully for those of us who read but post infrequently)
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To: MaggieMay
Coming up on Greta...
"Why did a lawyer on Scott's defence team bail?"
139 posted on 09/26/2003 7:07:20 PM PDT by Jackie-O (!)
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To: Rusty Roberts
Indeed!
140 posted on 09/26/2003 7:08:52 PM PDT by Jackie-O (!)
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To: Jackie-O
I might have to catch up on you commentary from Greta,tomorrow morning. My husband has indicated he would like to use the computor. Hopefully I can stay on a little longer,at least he is not hovering at the moment. :)
141 posted on 09/26/2003 7:22:23 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
computor = computer
142 posted on 09/26/2003 7:25:01 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
I missed the whole report...had to go out to look for my kids...whistle went unanswered.
143 posted on 09/26/2003 7:35:41 PM PDT by Jackie-O (!)
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To: Rusty Roberts
Thanks for the information on the cell phones.
144 posted on 09/26/2003 7:48:04 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: Jackie-O; Sandylapper; Canadian Outrage; Rusty Roberts; Devil_Anse; All
Sharon Rocha has filed a civil suit.Here is the article.I am cheering for her!
http://www.modbee.com/local/story/7503444p-8418242c.html
145 posted on 09/26/2003 7:49:38 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
I caught a little on Greta about that...thanks Maggs, I was wondering what I missed.
146 posted on 09/26/2003 7:54:35 PM PDT by Jackie-O (!)
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To: Spunky
Well, at the risk of sounding very old-fashioned, isn't it also possible that Scott picked up one "land line" telephone at the house, and maybe Laci did the old wife's trick of quietly listening in on the other extension?
147 posted on 09/26/2003 7:58:25 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Sandylapper
Absolutely, "the wording was a little suspect." Bingo! Now, I didn't see him say this--I didn't see him on TV--but we know people will sometimes split hairs when it comes to telling the whole story, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if Ron were one of those who pulls that sort of trick.
148 posted on 09/26/2003 8:01:25 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Diver Dave
ROFLMAO!!!! We can just read ol' Scott's little mind on that one: "Oops! I forgot to get rid of her pants!"
149 posted on 09/26/2003 8:02:52 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Spunky
I'm no expert on cell phones, but it's been my experience that I can no longer even halfway tell "where" most phone number originate or are "anchored"--whereas before cellphones were common, I could often tell just by the first three numbers, more or less, where the owner of the phone lived.

And remember Tradecorp had a little office in Modesto. He could've told Amber it was a cellphone gotten for him by his company, or any number of similar lies.

And yes, Spunky, isn't it kind of a weird experience nowadays--when we called someone in the past we knew where they were; now they could be anywhere!
150 posted on 09/26/2003 8:08:42 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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