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Peterson, Frey had frequent contact
The Modesto Bee ^ | Sept 25, 2003 | John Cote' and Garth Stapely

Posted on 09/25/2003 9:11:02 AM PDT by runningbear

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To: Devil_Anse
"Well, at the risk of sounding very old-fashioned, isn't it also possible that Scott picked up one "land line" telephone at the house, and maybe Laci did the old wife's trick of quietly listening in on the other extension?"

Oh my never! A good little wife wouldn't listen in on a phone call. ;-)

151 posted on 09/26/2003 8:10:53 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: MaggieMay
According to the court document it appears that she has reason to believe the scumbags (unnamed doe 1-50) were getting ready to make a profit off of some kind of book deal or movie or something and she has moved fast to put a stop to it.
152 posted on 09/26/2003 8:17:18 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: MaggieMay
BTW, isn't it odd that this supposed "private detective" friend of Amber's hasn't found his way to the press? So many other peripheral players have.

Yes, I remember Ron saying that about Amber's sister. But you see, Maggie, it just has seemed obvious all along that Ron often speaks b/f he actually gets his facts straight--and that, especially in the beginning, he knew a lot less about all this than he let on.
153 posted on 09/26/2003 8:18:35 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Did you watch Greta. Bernie says there are rumblings that the Petersons are not happy with Geragos. Hmm... wonder what the problem is?
154 posted on 09/26/2003 8:21:06 PM PDT by Lanza
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To: Jackie-O
Jackie I'm now home and I want a blow by blow account of Greta's interview 'k??!! *grin*
155 posted on 09/26/2003 8:21:19 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Jackie-O
It's really kind of sad Jackie. (wipes small tear away)

He told us he was leaving, after commenting that everything, really, is kind of "meaningless".

(and I would like to personally congratulate all those here who helped lead him to that conclusion)
156 posted on 09/26/2003 8:22:22 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Rusty Roberts
That constant need to be making contact with someone makes me think of Scott as a real narcissist--an emotional infant. I know a few people who I really do think are narcissistic, and two of them are "phonaholics", that is, if there is no one physically with them, they absolutely HAVE to be on the telephone. In my (totally nonprofessional) opinion, narcissists cannot stand to be alone. Picture a tiny infant--how long would a tiny infant really last if it were left alone? Not long.

So I think Scott's hundreds of phone calls reflect this pathological need on his part. And even more so, his calls to Amber. I think whatever woman he happened to be intimate with became a sort of surrogate mommy to him.

And you make a very good point: it's not necessarily odd for someone with a missing family member to spend a lot of time on the phone--but it is very odd for someone in that predicament to spend so much time on the phone with the ONE person who DEFINITELY could not help them find the missing family member!
157 posted on 09/26/2003 8:29:33 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Dev you know what convinces me that Laci never ever knew about Snott's affair? The fact that the night of Dec. 23, probably shortly before her gruesome death, she was talking with her Mom and was cheerful and bubbly as always. Sharon Rocha has said all along that Laci was NOT the kind that could hold something like this in and make plans for the next day as if nothing was wrong. I truly believe Laci was blindsided!!
158 posted on 09/26/2003 8:30:10 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Spunky
Knowing the greedy Peterson's,I am sure they had all but inked a deal for a book and a made for TV movie. Sharon,has out manoeuvred them and it does my heart good.
159 posted on 09/26/2003 8:30:35 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
GO SHARON!!!

Hmm, I wonder what kinds of opportunities are in the offing for young Scott to make a buck. And I wonder if any of that has anything to do with the recent argument between his lawyers.
160 posted on 09/26/2003 8:32:22 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Lanza
We heard that Lanza. Apparently Geragos is moving too slow for the Petersons AND he doesn't come and see Snott enough.!! The Sr. Peterson's are actually deceived enough to think that the Prelim is going to "free" their baby!! What a shock they have coming. Of course, the whole world is lying and has a personal vendetta against their son. Only Snott is telling the truth. GAG GAG BAAAAAAARRRRRFFFF!! The guy doesn't know the truth from a lie. He's a total pathological liar!!
161 posted on 09/26/2003 8:34:36 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: MaggieMay
A little precurser to a wrongful death suit? Way to go Sharon!
162 posted on 09/26/2003 8:35:12 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Devil_Anse
WHEN he's convicted, he isn't allowed to profit correct? (That's a positive confession isn't it?)!!
163 posted on 09/26/2003 8:36:33 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: RGSpincich
I think you might have just hit on it! Good thinking.
164 posted on 09/26/2003 8:36:51 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: RGSpincich
Exactly!!
165 posted on 09/26/2003 8:37:38 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage; MaggieMay
Okay my work here is done. Back, back, back to the recall free for all.LOL
166 posted on 09/26/2003 8:40:33 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich; Canadian Outrage; Jackie-O; Spunky; Devil_Anse; All
RGSpincich,while you go back to the other thread,I'll say goodnite.
167 posted on 09/26/2003 8:44:47 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Canadian Outrage
".....you know what convinces me that Laci never ever knew about Snott's affair? The fact that the night of Dec. 23, probably shortly before her gruesome death, she was talking with her Mom and was cheerful and bubbly as always."

If I recall she was talking with her Mom around 8:00 p.m. We still have no idea when the call from Amber to Scott was made, or from Scott to Amber was made on Dec 23. It could have been after the 8:00p.m. call when she was talking to her mother and therefore Laci wouldn't have said anything to Sharon Rocha.

168 posted on 09/26/2003 8:47:27 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: All; MaggieMay
I am on the West Coast and I just heard a Dateline Promo. "A bizzare twist in the Laci Peterson Case" next on Dateline
169 posted on 09/26/2003 8:50:04 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: RGSpincich
Good work. You keep on sluggin. Gray Davis HAS GOT to go. And you surely cannot have a Bustamente! Perish the thought!!
170 posted on 09/26/2003 8:50:38 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Spunky
Is your puter in the TV room???? Keep me posted.
171 posted on 09/26/2003 8:52:11 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Spunky
OMG I get Dateline. See y'all tomorrow. My husband is groaning about not being able to play internet Bridge anyway. Borrrrrrrrrring!!
172 posted on 09/26/2003 8:53:23 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
"Is your puter in the TV room????",

Yes it is. I see by your next post you are off to watch it. I am not sure if it comes on at 9:00 or 10:00 though.

Be interesting to see what they say. Probably about the lawyer problem.

173 posted on 09/26/2003 8:57:13 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Good points, CO. That is how everyone described her.

But I'm thinking, hmmm, you know, it's often been said that Scott had had other affairs while married. Now, Laci was not a dummy by any means--I always heard that she was very smart. I think she must have found out about or suspected at least one or two of his affairs.

Isn't it possible that she didn't want to publicly acknowledge that she knew of his having this or that affair, b/c she wasn't ready to act on the knowledge (leave him and make a whole new life)? They say that cheated-on wives often do not reveal that they know about the affair. They say that this is b/c the cheated-on wives have decided to live with it, and are not yet ready for the upheaval of a total break-up.

But, on the whole, I guess you're pretty near the truth: she possibly didn't know about it before--after all, it had only been going on for a month--but she sure was on the verge of a rude awakening!
174 posted on 09/26/2003 9:12:29 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Canadian Outrage
The problem is, that sort of "Son of Sam" law has been challenged, and it has been overturned before in certain jurisdictions. There is, to my knowledge, currently NO settled law that says he can't profit from his crimes. IOW, he may WELL be able to profit by "telling his story" even if he is proved to be the murderer! So Sharon is smart to do what she's doing.
175 posted on 09/26/2003 9:15:34 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Spunky
That's a good point!
176 posted on 09/26/2003 9:16:24 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Spunky
Please let us know what the program says!
177 posted on 09/26/2003 9:17:36 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Spunky
Oh, er, I KNOW! Of course she wouldn't!
178 posted on 09/26/2003 9:45:44 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Spunky
If this is true, that certain scumbags were on the verge of locking in some sort of profit deal, betcha that is related to the recent break btw Dalton and Geragos.
179 posted on 09/26/2003 9:48:16 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: drjulie
He likely believed (and perhaps still does) that he is so much smarter than the police...

That could be right.

I used to have a friend who was a cop. The worse the crime, the smarter the criminal usually thinks he/she is. They are wrong about that. Cops move methodically during investigations. Given the rules, they pretty much have to.

But to assume they are stupid is an act of profound stupidity. They are not.

180 posted on 09/26/2003 10:24:17 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: MaggieMay
thanks MM, bout time some civil filings are happening...
181 posted on 09/26/2003 10:38:48 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: iconoclast
Pfft, I read it for humor.

If you think there's anything you can do to avert another O.J. fiasco, you're dreaming.
182 posted on 09/26/2003 10:39:41 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
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To: RGSpincich
RG, so true, but is there anything to stop the money from coming in until the case is resolved? Insurance money can be frozen, but the house now is technically in Scott's name, correct? What about book right's? If Sharon doesn't win, then the path is open for Scott, and even if she does win, will she have to then make a move on each member of his family in order to stop financial gain to any Peterson?
183 posted on 09/26/2003 10:58:12 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (RB and RG have memories like elephants, thankfully for those of us who read but post infrequently)
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To: Rusty Roberts
Hi Rusty, the house still remains in limbo from what I can tell. No affidavit of death has been filed and previous statements by an officer of Stewart Title indicate that there will be a cloud over the title until the criminal case is resolved. Sharon can request immediate injunctions freezing assets and income that she believes are improperly procured by SP's family and others. Who knows what a judge will do?
184 posted on 09/27/2003 5:35:34 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
On a related note, what is the statue of limitations on a wrongful death suit. If this guy is acquitted (god forbid)they need to file suit. In a civil suit I think Scott would have to take the stand - that would be interesting, wouldn't it?
185 posted on 09/27/2003 8:20:42 AM PDT by drjulie
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To: The Other Harry
"But to assume they are stupid is an act of profound stupidity. They are not."

Oh I don't think Scott is terribly stupid he just has a very distorted view of his own abilities/characteristics in relation to others. I agree detectives see this all the time and they were likely pushing his buttons (big time). For instance, he may have planned to stay away from Amber for awhile but with the police attacking/questioning him he had to have some psychological comfort.


186 posted on 09/27/2003 8:28:03 AM PDT by drjulie
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To: MaggieMay
Ron Frey's oldest daughter, Ava, made the connection. She lives in Modesto, not far from Scott and Laci Peterson's home on Covena Avenue; she said she did not know them.

AHA! Thanks, Mags! Had forgotten that, so thanks for the recollection!

187 posted on 09/27/2003 9:24:22 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: MaggieMay
Sharon Rocha has filed a civil suit.Here is the article.I am cheering for her!

GO SHARON GO!

188 posted on 09/27/2003 9:26:07 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: drjulie
The statute of limitations now runs two years in California. That changed on 1/1/03 from a one year SOL. The time starts running when the death is discovered. So the way I figure it they have until April 1995 to file something. SP on the stand will be interesting. I'm sure he'll testify in the criminal trial, too.
189 posted on 09/27/2003 9:59:04 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich; drjulie
Stuck in the 90s. Make that 2005.
190 posted on 09/27/2003 10:00:19 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Devil_Anse
"Please let us know what the program says!"

The Dateline program was all about the convict who said that Peterson had asked him about getting someone to steal Laci's car for insurance money, and when he got Scott two guys and heard Scott talking about kidnapping Laci he was out of there because he knew Scott meant more than kidnapping and he didn't want to hear any part of it.

There were some points that make you wonder if it did happen that these thugs killed Laci. Even if they did I think Scott could be held on a 1st degree murder charge anyway.

This guys lawyer said whoever leaked this story has given his client a death sentence because he is now known as a snitch in prison and they don't think to highly of snitches

191 posted on 09/27/2003 10:44:41 AM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: Spunky
This guys lawyer said whoever leaked this story has given his client a death sentence because he is now known as a snitch in prison and they don't think to highly of snitches.

Uh, this lawyer wouldn't be the same attorney who has had his own face plastered on TV for the past week, would it?

whoever leaked this story

And whoever publicized it. Nice work, counselor.

192 posted on 09/27/2003 11:11:37 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Spunky
So you think there might be some truth to this story?

Trust me, if Scott got guys to kidnap and/or kill his wife--and we know what happened to her, no way can he say something like "gee, I just wanted her kidnapped, not killed"--then Scott is DEFINITELY eligible for the death penalty under the law. Even if Scott never dirtied his hands physically doing any of the dirty work.

As another poster said earlier, the fact that these others were engaged by Scott (if that IS a fact) would IN NO WAY get Scott off the hook.
193 posted on 09/27/2003 11:20:51 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: RGSpincich
Good point, RG!
194 posted on 09/27/2003 11:21:34 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: RGSpincich
"Uh, this lawyer wouldn't be the same attorney who has had his own face plastered on TV for the past week, would it?'

RG, Since I don't have cable anymore last night on Dateline was the first time I have seen Cory's lawyer, Muni. It may very well be that he has had his face plastered all over TV but I have never seen or heard of him before.

I don't recall him being mentioned here on FR either.

I just went to CourtTV.com and it appears that one of the posters there believes that Muni is rather goofy.

195 posted on 09/27/2003 11:48:53 AM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: Devil_Anse
The program was just an interview with the Lawyer for Carrol. Frank Muna I think his name was. They did show a picture of City Lights Strip Club and the Motel where the meeting supposedly took place in Fresno. Then there was a quick blurb from the former Detective that did the LD test. All in all it wasn't earth shattering. Although, Frank Muna AND the Detective did say that Cory Carrol definitely "believes" this is the truth.
196 posted on 09/27/2003 12:10:10 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: thoughtomator
Firstly, THIS Judge is No Ito. He seems to have a pretty tight hold on things including the Lawyers. He has not been tolerating any nonsense so far. In addition, the Judge has so far NOT bought any of Geragos's foolishness. He has lost most of his motions. Secondly and more importantly, I doubt there will EVER be a bozo jury which was completely nullified from day one, in this case or many others for that matter.
197 posted on 09/27/2003 12:14:15 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: RGSpincich
Ray do you remember sometime ago, it was discussed that IF Snott is convicted that the house would revert to Laci's Estate?!! Therefore it would be Laci's family that would inherit the house and they could either rent it or sell it.
198 posted on 09/27/2003 12:19:42 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Spunky
Yes I did get that part about it being a death sentence for Muna's client.
199 posted on 09/27/2003 12:23:09 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
It would appear I am talking to myself.!!
200 posted on 09/27/2003 12:26:59 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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