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Don Adams Update: Teamsters File Motion to Recover $62,673.46 in Fees and Costs
U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania | September 18, 2003 | Thomas H. Kohn

Posted on 09/25/2003 9:20:46 PM PDT by Physicist

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To: WL-law
I think there is a less-than-zero change of the teamsters getting those fees -- it would be against common sense and public policy to award legal fees unless the action was deemed frivolous.

Against common sense? Yes. But the statute says what it says. So don't be surprised if the judge awards fees.

61 posted on 09/26/2003 8:27:05 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The "Agreement of the Willing" is posted at the end of my personal profile page.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Here's some info on cases where fees were sought under that part of the USC.

Your post reinforces my point. in the case you cited the GOVERNMENT had to pay the plaintiff's legal fees -- the cited provision in the law is intended to remove the financial obstacle that would inhibit ordinary citizens from taking an action against the government or state-actors to enforce a civil rights violation.

It would be unheard of to use that against a PLAINTIFF, especially one who had a colorable case (and a remaining viable cause-of-action) like the case at hand.

62 posted on 09/26/2003 8:29:01 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: aristeides
By the way, are there circumstances under which filing such a motion for fees is itself a frivolous action subject to sanctions?

Theoretically yes, but I think the court would view this as a pissing contest with both sides overreaching at times (i.e., some of the decisions by JW) and let each party pay its costs at this point.

63 posted on 09/26/2003 8:32:11 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: jimkress
Rendell is now governor.
64 posted on 09/26/2003 9:27:25 AM PDT by bvw
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To: DeSoto
Add Democrats and Unions to your list of despicable institutions.
65 posted on 09/26/2003 10:09:46 AM PDT by Reagan Renaissance
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To: Physicist
Bump!
66 posted on 09/26/2003 10:10:37 AM PDT by blackie
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To: Bonaparte
And for exercising your First Amendment right of free speech.
67 posted on 09/26/2003 10:11:49 AM PDT by Reagan Renaissance
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To: demnomo
"I used to live down the street from one decent Union man. He hated the Union, but had to join and pay dues to work."

Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.

68 posted on 09/26/2003 10:14:26 AM PDT by Reagan Renaissance
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To: Imal
"It seems the courts are not always the best place to seek justice."

When the courts fail, sooner or later the streets will run red.

69 posted on 09/26/2003 10:16:46 AM PDT by Reagan Renaissance
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To: demnomo
"Most Union guys that I have known were bullies and creeps."
You must have known damn few union members.
70 posted on 09/26/2003 10:42:27 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: WL-law
One would think the circuit court of appeals would reverse the summary judgment on the civil rights claims since the Adams have a prima facia case for violations of their civil rights. The problem on the civil rights claim might be a bit of difficulty in establishing that the teamster thugs were acting under color of law or official authority.

The fact that Adams was arrested when he in fact was the person assaulted would support such a claim; assuming Judicial Watch preserved the claim within the statutory time limitation period. If they didn't, the Adams might have a claim for legal malpractice against JW.

71 posted on 09/26/2003 11:02:16 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots
For the civil rights claim the plaintiff has to prove that a state actor violated his rights -- and, from what I can gather, since Adams could not provide any threshold evidence to support a conspiracy between the alleged state actor (Randell) and the thugs, you can't sustain a civil rights claim.
72 posted on 09/26/2003 11:30:49 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: WL-law
For the civil rights claim the plaintiff has to prove that a state actor violated his rights -- and, from what I can gather, since Adams could not provide any threshold evidence to support a conspiracy between the alleged state actor (Randell) and the thugs, you can't sustain a civil rights claim.

Hold that thought. I will post evidence of such a conspiracy soon. Obviously it did not convince this judge, but it might be grounds for appeal.

I actually hoped to have it posted by now, but it's rather long and I haven't found the time to finish typing it in.

73 posted on 09/26/2003 12:14:34 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: WL-law
You are, of course, correct. Although rarely used, I think a 42 U.S.C. 1986 action would have been appropriate. Granted the case law regarding 1986 actions are anything but clear. I think the appellate courts have not really understood the real function of 1986 actions, especially when many appellate courts have ruled that for a section 1986 action to be maintained, there must also be a section 1985 violation. This makes no sense because if that was the intent, section 1986 severves no purpose. I believe the Civil Rights Act of 1871 intended to hold state actors responsible if they knew private citizens were conspiring to violate the civil rights of other private citizens and then did nothing to stop it or punish the offenders. In reading some of the legislative history regarding the Civil Rights Act of 1871, that seems to be the intent.

I think in the Adams case, it is pretty clear that the police knew and observed the teamster thugs assaulting Adams and intentionally refused to do anything about it. This being the case, the police were deliberately indifferent to the violation of the civil rights of the Adams and are therefore liable under 1983/1985 and the teamsters knowing that the police would ignore or condone their actions make the teamsters state actors for the purposes of 1983/1985.

Rendell's statement that the teamsters own the courts is evidence that the judge is biased against the Adams' and should be disqualified. There are some decisions that are so outrageous that any reasonable person must conclude that it was obtained through fraud. This appears to be one such case.

The fact that there was a criminal conviction at a minimum establishes a clear prima facia case for a tort claim for assault against the teamsters.

The Adams have a clear basis for an appeal of the dismissal of their case for several reasons. I certainly hope the adams appeal the dismissal of their case.

Like you, I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell that the Teamsters will prevail on the legal fees and costs motion. The cicuit court will slap such a ruling down so fast, it will make one's head spin. This is nothing more than an attempt at intimidation in the hope that the Adams won't appeal the dismissal of their case.

74 posted on 09/26/2003 12:38:39 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Physicist
Hold that thought. I will post evidence of such a conspiracy soon. Obviously it did not convince this judge, but it might be grounds for appeal.

Even many federal judges attempt to cover-up corruption by state and local public officials. I know this all too well. Same goes for the FBI and many U.S. Attorneys.

I suspect the Circuit Court will reverse the motion for summary judgment and remand for trial.

75 posted on 09/26/2003 12:41:21 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: A Navy Vet; Physicist; All
Also, just for the record, "A Navy Vet" was a major, and essential, force behind the March for Justice actually happening, IIRC.

76 posted on 09/26/2003 2:56:36 PM PDT by RJCogburn ("I want a man with grit."..................Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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To: Physicist
Unions and their goons have been given a free pass by the courts of the land, from the very dawn of Uniondom. Always above the laws that the little people they were brutalizing into submission, were forced to live by.

Union organizers were the original terrorists, and remain so to this very day.Unreasonable Union demands upon industry has forced more businesses to shut down and/or flee the country, than high taxes and NAFTA put together.

There will be no more justice for Don and Teri Adams, than there will be for all the missing people in shallow graves around the country or those who became dog food and then dog doo doo, and finally stank up somebodies shoe. \

We are all equal under the law. Some are just far more equal.
77 posted on 09/26/2003 3:16:44 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Where will refugees find sanctuary, when the one world government dream, turns nightmare?)
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To: RJCogburn
Aaaand also, for the record, I was the chief cigarette-butt picker-upper at the MFJ (more than 600 when I stopped counting). My fingers smelt of them for a long time, but darned if we didn't leave that place cleaner than we found it! :-)
78 posted on 09/26/2003 4:42:51 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist
What a fine butt-picker you were, er, picker-upper. Thanks for your help that day. I had forgotten. And the numbers do vary;my count was an approximate from the stage. May not be factoring in the turnover of people coming and going.
79 posted on 09/26/2003 5:47:51 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (government is the problem, not the solution!)
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To: RJCogburn
Just part of excellent team of 5.
80 posted on 09/26/2003 5:49:59 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (government is the problem, not the solution!)
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