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Earth: no longer the lonely planet
SpaceRef ^ | 9/26/03

Posted on 09/27/2003 7:19:20 AM PDT by KevinDavis

The question of whether we're alone in the universe just got a lot bigger.

Two astronomers from the University of New South Wales, Australia - Dr Charles Lineweaver and Daniel Grether - have found that at least 25 per cent of Sun-like stars have planets.

"This means there are at least 100 billion stars with planets in our Galaxy," says Dr Lineweaver, a Senior Research Fellow at the University's School of Physics.

Until now, astronomers believed that only five to 15 per cent of Sun-like stars had orbiting planets, but Lineweaver and Grether's work shows that previous estimates under-reported the proportion of so-called extrasolar planets.

The Astrophysical Journal, the world's leading journal of astrophysics, has accepted their research for publication.

Astronomers have been carefully monitoring 2,000 nearby stars for the presence of orbiting extrasolar planets.

"To date, they've detected a hundred or so, meaning the fraction of stars with extrasolar planets was around five per cent," says Dr Lineweaver.

"But most planets are too small or take too long to orbit their host stars to be detected. For example, if the Sun were one of the stars being monitored, we still wouldn't have detected any planets around it.

"Using a new method to correct for this incompleteness, we found that at least 25 per cent of Sun-like stars have planets."

Dr Lineweaver believes that the figure of at least 100 billion stars with orbiting planets could be on the low side when it comes to cosmic counting. It could be that close to 100 per cent of stars have planets.

"Given that there are about 400 billion stars in our Galaxy alone, it means there could be up to 400 billion stars with planets," he says.

"With about 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe, our result suggests that there are at least 10 trillion planetary systems in the Universe."

'What Fraction of Sun-like Stars have Planets?' by Charles H Lineweaver and Daniel Grether will be published later this year. It is available online.

Dr Lineweaver is an ARC Senior Research Fellow and Senior Lecturer, School of Physics, UNSW. Daniel Grether is working on a PhD.


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To: Sabertooth
Are Venus and Mars "Earth-like?" Or will an Earth-like planet have oceans of water?

And how could they even tell when they're simply tracking transits? Can a transit tell you anything more than possibly the size of the planet? Heck, it can barely tell you that as you don't know how far the planet is from the star in the first place. Nor how fast its orbit is. Conjecture, suppositions, etc.

21 posted on 09/27/2003 8:05:29 AM PDT by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Sabertooth
Yeah, it wouldn't be a great neighborhood in a globular cluster, huh? Lotsa traffic! (Even if you could scrape together the heavy elements to MAKE a planet)

Or how about orbiting a red dwarf sun REALLY close-in for that needed warmth? OOPS! Stellar flare! Sorry, life-forms; it's barbecue day!

How about a nice white-hot star and an orbit like Saturn's? Okay...uh-oh! Star core out of fuel already! %&#* proton hog...BOOM!

As for a Sol-like solar system: consider that Jupiter "eats" a lot of comets, asteroids, and assorted space debris. Without a Jupiter, that Earthlike planet is likely to resemble Mercury.

22 posted on 09/27/2003 8:11:20 AM PDT by petuniasevan (Microbiology Lab: Staph Only!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

And


23 posted on 09/27/2003 8:16:30 AM PDT by petuniasevan (Microbiology Lab: Staph Only!)
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To: KevinDavis

Billlllions and billllions

24 posted on 09/27/2003 8:19:59 AM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: petuniasevan
As for a Sol-like solar system: consider that Jupiter "eats" a lot of comets, asteroids, and assorted space debris. Without a Jupiter, that Earthlike planet is likely to resemble Mercury.

Not to mention Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.

Good thing none of those planets is between us and the Sun, too. Might make for some long, cold eclipses.


25 posted on 09/27/2003 8:21:04 AM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: demlosers
Future Missions to Search for Earth-like Planets (cont.)

Darwin mission The European Space Agency has targeted the InfraRed Space Interferometer-Darwin for a launch in 2015 or later. Decisions about whether to go forward with the mission are expected around 2003.

The telescope, using infrared rather than optical wavelengths, would hunt for Earth-like planets around some 300 Sun-like stars within 50 light-years of Earth. Darwin would actually be an array of six small eyes, forming an effective giant that would mimic a 100-yard (91-meter) telescope.

Scientists are still studying how such a system might be designed.

Unlike current space-based telescopes, Darwin would operate somewhere between Mars and Jupiter, rather than in Earth orbit. This would allow the instruments to avoid the dust between Earth and Mars that obscures the view.

The six individual telescopes would be joined either by long arms or would each be mounted on individual spacecraft. In the former case, the rigid structure would rotate to build up the image. In the latter case, the individual spacecraft would have their own rocket motors and dance around each other to build up the image.

26 posted on 09/27/2003 8:27:08 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: petuniasevan
Like the top slogan. I'd add that any aliens advanced enough to travel here would probably make sure that we don't travel there. I'd think any advanced civilization would have a lower opinion of earthlings than Americans do of the french.
27 posted on 09/27/2003 8:27:39 AM PDT by steve50 (Power takes as ingratitude the writhing of it's victims : Tagore)
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To: mrtysmm
... why bother them?

Our television signals have been bombarding the stars since we first began broadcasting. I say we have already bothered them to distraction.

I suspect that any intelligent aliens out there either totally hate us and wish our destruction or, because of an addiction to TV, are willing to become out slaves as long as we promise to keep broadcasting re-runs of Hawaii 5-0.
28 posted on 09/27/2003 8:28:19 AM PDT by redheadtoo
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To: demlosers
Future Missions to Search for Earth-like Planets (cont.)

Eddington mission

The Eddington mission was proposed to the European Space Agency (ESA) in early 2000. It would search for and study potentially habitable planets around other stars using a 1.2-meter (47-inch) optical telescope.

Eddington would carry an optical photometer mounted on a three-axis stabilized platform, sitting far from Earth.


The mission would also study the makeup and evolution of stars.

In October, the ESA's Science Program Committee approved Eddington as part of a larger set of initiatives to be implemented between 2008 and 2013. A workshop to discuss the mission will be held June 11-15, 2001, in Spain.

29 posted on 09/27/2003 8:30:05 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: demlosers
Future Missions to Search for Earth-like Planets (cont.)

Terrestrial Planet Finder (TPF)

The Terrestrial Planet Finder (TPF) would use an array of telescopes orbiting the Earth in formation to generate planetary pictures 100 times more detailed than those the Hubble Space Telescope could take.


TPF would use a developing technology called nulling to improve vision. Light waves from a star have crests and troughs, just like water waves. If the starlight from two separated telescopes comes together just right, the crests from one and the troughs from the other can cancel each other out, reducing or eliminating starlight. This would allow a view of planets around the star [see animation].

The goal would be to create a census of relatively nearby Earth-sized planets. TPF would study all aspects of planets: from their formation and development to their suitability as an abode for life.

The telescope would study planetary systems as far away as 50 light-years. In addition to measuring the size and temperature, instruments would reveal the relative amounts of gases like carbon dioxide, water vapor, ozone and methane, all of which would help determine whether a planet could support life, or could have supported it in the past.

TPF is targeted for launch in 2011, though it has not been funded. Before the mission can be designed, engineers still need to figure out how to control separate spacecraft flying in formation while also orbiting Earth.

30 posted on 09/27/2003 8:33:17 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: KevinDavis
I think we will find a Earth like planet in 20 - 30 years. Any takers?

Try this site: http://www.longbets.org/

It's specifically for placing wagers on long-term events.

31 posted on 09/27/2003 8:33:30 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: KevinDavis
The question remains - will we find intelligent life on Earth?
32 posted on 09/27/2003 8:35:04 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: demlosers
SIM mission

The Space Interferometry Mission (SIM) would hunt for Earth-sized planets around other stars and provide new insights into the origin and evolution of our galaxy.

A science team for the mission was chosen by NASA November 28, 2000, and the mission is scheduled for launch in 2009.
SIM would be placed into orbit around the Sun on a path that follows Earth's orbit. Light gathered by its multiple telescopes will be combined and processed to yield information that could normally be obtained only with a much larger telescope.

The mission would also measure the locations and distances of stars throughout our Milky Way Galaxy, and study other celestial objects.

33 posted on 09/27/2003 8:35:40 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: Victoria Delsoul; PatrickHenry; Quila; Rudder; donh; VadeRetro; RadioAstronomer; Travis McGee; ...




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34 posted on 09/27/2003 9:01:20 AM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: KevinDavis
please put me on this list.
35 posted on 09/27/2003 9:03:41 AM PDT by Frapster (John 3:16)
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To: *crevo_list; VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Scully; Piltdown_Woman; ...
PING. [This ping list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. FReepmail me to be added or dropped.]
36 posted on 09/27/2003 9:04:06 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The "Agreement of the Willing" is posted at the end of my personal profile page.)
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To: steve50
I'd think any advanced civilization would have a lower opinion of earthlings than Americans do of the french.

As if that were possible ;0)

37 posted on 09/27/2003 9:09:56 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I like my women like I like my coffee - Hot, and in a big cup)
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To: ghostrider
Isn't this like looking for the one red-painted silver dollar mixed in with billions and billions of silver dollars spread out 10 square miles?

38 posted on 09/27/2003 9:11:36 AM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: KevinDavis
well now we know where James Carville come from.
39 posted on 09/27/2003 9:13:53 AM PDT by Reagan79 (Pro Life! Pro Family! Pro Reagan!)
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To: All
The significance of the article is that (if the article's speculation works out) it alters one of the factors in The Drake Equation, thus raising the likelihood of finding intelligent life outside the solar system.
40 posted on 09/27/2003 9:23:04 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The "Agreement of the Willing" is posted at the end of my personal profile page.)
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