News briefs on the California recall (Sundheim crashes Davis party)

The Associated Press ^ | September 26, 2003

[calcowgirl]

California Republican Party Chairman Duf Sundheim crashed a Gov. Gray Davis campaign event Friday where he defended Arnold Schwarzenegger, criticized Davis' debate challenge to the actor -- and ended up in a confrontation with feminist activist attorney Gloria Allred.

After an event with women supporters wrapped up, Sundheim began giving spin to reporters, accusing Davis of ignoring the public's business to raise money and defending Schwarzenegger's record with women.

[calcowgirl]

This must have been a sight to see.

[demnomo]

Gloria would do better to wave her sign at candidate Larry Flynt. Ooops, I forgot...Larry is a staunch Democrat, so it's OK for him to engage in, encourage, exploit and photograph such sexual exploits as a gang-bang orgy so long as he supports a woman's right to an abortion.

Silly me.

Now, if the Democrats have hard proof (ewww..no pun intended) of Arnold engaging in such activities as recently as a few years ago, I would take issue with that against Schwarzennegger. I know more than a few conservative guys who were jerks towards women when they were younger. Then they got religion, (or a sense of decency) their heads together, married and had kids. It changes some guys (and gals) perspectives. Can't say that about Clinton, Flynt, Clinton's spouse, Allred, and a great many liberal hypocritical idiots.

[EggsAckley]

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[inPhase]

question here

if there is agreement among parties -

why do men get blamed?

Is the old fashioned (of Allred's ilk) insinuation that women are less potentially intelligent than men? Too dumb, taken advantage of.And what of All Red's close eyed opportunist client dropping clothes left and right? Is All Red following what she is accusing Arnold of doing? Is she getting finder's fees.

This looks like crass classical woman prejudice to me by All red. Good name.

I believe Arnold than he beefed up his story. It is a very Austrian thing to do.

[Kevin Curry]

Arnold is just as crass toward women as Bill Clinton is. And brainless Republican women give him the same pass on on the issue that feminists give to Clinton.

Arnold Schwarzenegger IS Bill Clinton. Only not as pudgy and gray.

[socal_parrot]

Allred then shoved her way through the scrum

At first glance I read "scum". When it comes to Davis supporters, scum is a good word.

[RJCogburn]

Arnold Schwarzenegger IS Bill Clinton. Only not as pudgy and gray.

You make Clinton less profoundly evil than he is by this comparison.

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[Reeses]

"The more I know about men the more I like dogs." -Gloria Allred

[EGPWS]

Allred then shoved her way through the scrum, squeezing next to Sundheim in front of the TV cameras and holding up a sign proclaiming: "From Gloria to Arnold, Gang Bangs of `Black Girls' are No Joke."

Well one has to admit that she is consistent in her demeanor anyway!

[inPhase]

no, Arnold S. has a very high IQ, the bubba does not. Please check the size of their heads, brains need room. Also Arnold thinks things through. Prefer McL but we need to win in CA.

Do not agree with you in last post but more,

it was clear to me by reading here and other places(closely)
during those trying bubba years that he is a fag.

You do not like A.S.
Do you support McL, no implication meant, just curious.

[hotpotato]

(1) Sundheim was an idiot for being there.

(2) Allred isn't the only "expert at how to grab a camera". Sometimes the attention-seeker (Sundheim) gets attention they didn't bargan.

(3) Interesting how the AP writer defines Sundheim as "giving spin" while the democrats are... what?... Not?

[demnomo]

Gee, I didn't know that Arnold raped a campaign worker! I didn't know that Arnold has dozens of mistresses and his spouse Maria knows it and has hired a "bimbo eruption" squad to intimidate and silence them. I didn't know that Arnold is into hummers (not the car) given by subordinates that get jobs and perks in return for their "services." I didn't know that Arnold has spokespeople spin his infidelities and womanizing, then tell everyone to ignore the stories because it's Arnold's "private life."

You need to contact Bill Muholland immdediately! The stuff that they have been dredging up and leaking to the press is pretty lame. This will really sink the Schwarzenegger! C'mon. Go for it!

Seems to me, Arnold has been more forthcoming (ewww--no pun intended) about his raunchy past than Bill Clinton was and would ever be. If Muholland takes your call, and you and he have SOLID proof of recent dirt a la Bubba, I might be interested. Until then...

[capt. norm]

I love the fact that Allred is a liberal. She looks like the prototype liberal woman with that pinched face. Almost as liberal looking as the "Queen of Face-Lift", Nancy Pelosi.

Their appearance along with their loud, rude manner and total lack of a sense of humor make them easier to spot.

[Spiff]

Arnold Schwarzenegger IS Bill Clinton. Only not as pudgy and gray.

And if Arnold Schwarzenkennedy had a (D) after his name instead of an (R), everyone on Free Republic would be agreeing with you right now.

[capt. norm]

""The more I know about men the more I like dogs." -Gloria Allred"

I guess it's lucky for her that she doesn't like men, because I think the feeling is mutual.

If she parked her limousine in front of my house and looked out, it would most certainly kill my lawn.

[demnomo]

LOL. Which one is Gloria? Their sour puss expressions really confuse me.

Gloria was once against Clinton. Then the Clintonistas got to her and her airtime on CNN was cut. Recently, Gloria has been crowing about how great Hillary would be as a future POTUS. (That means that Bill Clinton would also make a great First Gentleman of the Land.) Gloria is an egotistical, attention-grabing media whore. Period.

But that Republican guy should not have crashed the Democratic love-fest...

[demnomo]

If there is SOLID proof that Arnold Schwarzenneger's recent (the last eighteen years or so since he married Maria) behavior towards women mirrors Bill Clinton and there is SOLID proof that Schwarzenneger, his people, or Maria intimidated those women to keep quiet like Bill Clinton, there would be a change of heart by many of Arnold's supporters.

Until then...

[Southack]

""What about this? What about the gang bang remark by Arnold? What about the gang bang remark by Arnold?" Allred yelled."

This is coming from women who defended Clinton by saying "It was consensual" & "She was a stalker" & "It's just about sex" as well as "Let's move on"?!

BWAAA ha ha! And the FemiNazis wonder why they have no credibility. Hey feminists, you sold your credibility back when you would say **anything** to defend Clinton!

[calcowgirl]

Art Torres and Duf Sundheim were just on Fox News...

Torres said Arnold was too chicken to debate Davis

.... He called Arnold a GIRLY MAN!

All Duf could do was laugh... he was speechless.

[calcowgirl]

This is coming from women who defended Clinton

Actually, Gloria spoke out against Clinton.
Her one demonstration of integrity.

[habs4ever]

You've become a caricature of a right wing crazy,Kevin, and you spew nothing but hyperbole now, all day, all the time.I used to think you were intelligent, but were you faking the whole time, or are you a better actor than the man you have come loathe with a fury that grips the looney Left over Dubya?

[Valin]

"The more I know about men the more I like dogs." -Gloria Allred

Right back at ya sweetcheeks.

[Congressman Billybob]

Absolutely not, there is no equivalence between Schwarenegger and Clinton (him). Schwarenegger has had a somewhat raucus past, but he has grown up, settled down, and become a stable, mature, successful adult.

Clinton (him) on the other hand has been a pathological liar and sociopath every day of his life from adolescence to today, and continuing to the indefinite future. Regardless of whatever views one might have about whether S should be elected governor of California, anyone who equates Billyjeff and Arnold either hasn't been paying attention for the last ten years, or is a card-carrying moron. IMHO.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Democrats Dancing to Tunes of Glory?," discussion thread on FR. Article will likely be on ChronWatch.

[My2Cents]

Congratulations! Your post has been nominated as one of today's MOST DISGUSTING COMMENTS for your suggestion that Arnold is a rapist/womanhater like Bill Clinton. Your comment will be added to the Hall of Shame comprised of other comments by McClintock's increasingly shrill and desperate supporters:

-- Posts (plural) that proclaims that "if you vote for Arnold, you're not a Christian."
-- An admission that some are creating an "enemies list" of sorts made up of the FR screen names of those who support Arnold, and of organizations that support him, intended to be a list of people and groups who have proven themselves "unreliable."
-- A suggestion that there needs to be a "true conservative" challenge to President Bush for the nomination, so McClintock should run against him in the primaries.
-- A suspicion about Darrell Issa's claim that McClintock made a promise to him that his candidacy would not damage the chances of electing a Republican in the recall, because Issa is "a terrorist sympathizer."
-- The comment that "Arnold wants to use your tax dollars to slaughter unborn children." (Your comment, too, I think, from another thread, so you may be our grand prize winner today!)

[usadave]

"What about this? What about the gang bang remark by Arnold? What about the gang bang remark by Arnold?" Allred yelled.

Gang bangs are not illegal, Gloria, gang bangs are not illegal! A gang bang is a consensual sex act involving several adults. Some people might find it disgusting or immoral, but it is not illegal in any sense of the word. Perhaps Gloria should be more concerned with why a woman would agree to participate in a gang bang instead of criticising the male participants.

[fqued]

"Arnold Schwarzenegger IS Bill Clinton. Only not as pudgy and gray."


Right. When did Arnold suborn perjury or commit perjury?
That is the immense harm that Clinton did to the presidency.
or are the democrats right, and it really was "all about sex"?

[fqued]

It's worse than that, Congersman,

As a lawyer, I believe that the most damaging thing that Billy Jeff did to the presidency is that he SUBORNED PERJURY and COMMITTED PERJURY. A man sworn to uphold the law and the constitution does great harm to our system by these wrongs.

there ain't nuthin that Arnold did that is in any way comparable to this.

[OldFriend]

All-red and Arianna.....twins separated at birth.

[OldFriend]

Seek help. It's clear your medications have worn off.

[BlueNgold]

Wow, I just realized that BC must be sooooo jealous of Arnold ... Gang Bangs and, get this, he married a freakin Kennedy. This guy is living BC's teenage fantasies, and dammit all to heck, the guy's a Republican. Ain't life ironic?

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

Arnold is just as crass toward women as Bill Clinton is. And brainless Republican women give him the same pass on the issue that feminists give to Clinton.

Clinton would send the state police out to bring him back a vixen for his pleasure. Arnold and his bodybuilding buddies would indulge in consensual orgies. Maybe the hedonism is similar but I see a big difference in means. To equate Arnold to Bill for the entire sex thing is equating any man enjoying sex with a woman.

[calcowgirl]

Sundheim was an idiot for being there.

I agree. If he trys to be fight Arnold's battles, he's going to make the whole party look bad.

Interesting how the AP writer defines Sundheim as "giving spin" while the democrats are... what?... Not?

Dems are the sleazy animals they've always been. Much worse than 'spin'... they just haven't found the right word for it yet.