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To: billbears
"Its 20th-century heroes tend to be TR, FDR, and Ronald Reagan--Irving Kristol
Sorry but I'm not part of any group that considers FDR a hero."

Likewise, and think FDR a tragedy. Think we are homing in here though. FDR was a major SOCIAL LIBERAL. And neocons by and by are not all fiscal conservatives either. Only common theme appears to me to be Israel, for good or bad.
42 posted on 09/28/2003 6:05:41 PM PDT by inPhase
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To: inPhase
Only common theme appears to me to be Israel, for good or bad.

Unfortunately, that's what I have a problem understanding sometimes. It seems the neocons are bound and determined to railroad through this 'roadmap' one way or another. And as someone that supports Israel, I can't see how giving their land to a bunch of squatters is doing anything more than making Israel acquiesce to terrorists

48 posted on 09/28/2003 6:10:52 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: inPhase
And neocons by and by are not all fiscal conservatives either. Only common theme appears to me to be Israel, for good or bad.

It's hard to be a fiscal conservative when the goal is military intervention and nation building; that kind of stuff doesn't come cheap. And while I wouldn't go as far as to say that it is all about Israel or done for exclusively for Israel's benefit as some paleo's suggest, it does seem that many neocons fervently support Israel to the point that they are blind to the other interests that U.S. has in the region. If you're not 100% behind the right-wing Likud Party's agenda, I don't think they allow you into the neocon cabal.

78 posted on 09/28/2003 6:36:36 PM PDT by zacyak
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