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Posted on 09/30/2003 8:38:06 AM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
Tom McClintock will most likely be Ostracized – and he probably will Deserve It.
Yesterday, I heard a radio ad on a local Bay Area AM station, run by some American Indian tribe. That is how they identified themselves – as an Indian Nation, and they were running a political ad for Tom McClintock, the theme that, as conservatives, if we voted our conscious, then Tom McClintock can win. Don’t listen to the nay-sayers, say the Indian gaming interests, not only can Tom McClintock win, he WILL win if we all vote principle. And, ka-Ching, it sort of sounds like some of those other American Indian radio ads for their Indian Casino(s) - we are ALL WINNERS at their casino.
Yes sir, we are all going to WIN! I guess Tom took some money from the Indian gambling interests.
I guess some American Indians are not only leftists, but conservatives as well.
I can tell you one thing, they know how to run the numbers, and lay the crap table so that, in the end, they win.
And now I’m being told, if all of us American Indians and conservatives vote for Tom, then not only can Tom win, he WILL win – ka-CHING!
Hmmm. I’m thinking, maybe these American Indians want to split the Republican vote, so that Bustamante wins. I’m thinking, every time I turn around, there’s another Indian casino popping up. And, I don’t know, nothing against Indians, because if anyone knows me, they know I support and am the friend of the Indians. So, I guess I shouldn’t complain too much about the casinos, but maybe I’m thinking “what the hell is Tom McClintock thinking?”, taking this money, and now these ads.
And now, maybe I’m thinking that Tom McClintock is a stubborn mule instead of a statesman. I mean, I remember in the story by Carlo Collodi, the wooden boy Pinocchio wanted to become a real boy. But, he almost turned into a donkey – he didn’t listen to his father who carved him from wood, and as a result Pinocchio didn’t think “long term”, and went to Pleasure Island, and then he started to grow a tail and long ears. He was “half-donkey”, and the only thing that would save him then was that he would have to become a hero. Luckily for him, he did, because he saved his father’s life.
I hate to say it, but Tom McClintock is now sort of “half-donkey”. I guess he can turn this around, but what he has to do now is become a hero. Because, I can tell you right now, if he spoils this thing, he’s gonna’ be ostracized by the Republican Party. That’s a fact. There are other folks, who are like the Blue Fairy or the Puppet Maker – and they can, and will ostracize him. And, I’m sad to say, he will probably deserve it. I guess, the Republican Party in some ways is no different than the Democratic Party - like some conservative talk show hosts say as they tell Arnold to “go to hell”, and huff and puff, and declare themselves “independents” like Arianna. So, Tom won’t probably be getting money from the officiano’s anymore, but that won’t necessarily mean anything, he has millions of supporters who will donate to his future campaigns, and since the Republicans are so horrible, he could even maybe run as an Independent like Arianna or join the American Independent Party.
Then again, Tom McClintock can become a real boy, and not a wooden boy. Like Pinocchio, what he has to do is become a hero. He has to save his father, for example.
He can do this two ways, the way I figure.
The first way he can become a hero is, he can WIN the election for governor. But, I don’t think that’s going to happen. I am following the “Can’t Milk a Bull” strategy for Republican victory in this recall. How it goes is, yes I like Tom, and everyone, including the American Indian gaming interests who support Bustamante, say Tom can WIN, and are campaigning for Tom so they can split the Republican vote. Tom is letting them do campaigning for him. He’s “rising in the polls”, etc.. So I said, “ok, they say he’s rising in the polls, that he can WIN. I will HELP him rise in the polls – if a pollster calls me, I will say ‘Tom McClintock’ . . . I will, and did, send him money. And so, Tom will be given EVERY CHANCE TO KA-CHING! And then, one week BEFORE the election, we see the results of the crap game. And, whoever is leading in the polls among Republicans one week before the election, THAT’S WHO I VOTE FOR”.
Well. We had the big debate. And Stan the moderator won the debate, since he also sort of participated in it. Yes, it was a wild an’ woolly debate, but the wool wasn’t sheep wool, it was crazy, and now we have the post-debate polls. And Arnold is now surging UP in the polls, beating Bustamante, and Tom isn’t.
And, we now have another poll about a week off, and Arnold, who will make a GREAT governor, and will make the Republican Party proud, is winning, and Tom isn’t.
So, I’m voting for our next Governor of California, Governor Arnold, who is going to make us all proud, including those conservatives who say “go to hell, Arnold” and are registered “Independents”.
And that’s it.
Except, for the Tom thing, who is growing long ears now.
So, Tom can WIN the big Ka-CHING, and become the hero, and his tail and ears will go away. The other way he can become a hero is to get out of the race.
But he won’t. That’s what he says.
I’m not going to scream at him. Neither will the Republican “terrorists”, as he called them.
So he can stay in. And maybe Arnold will still win, anyway. Tom won’t become a hero – either by winning, or, it seems, by dropping out.
But I can tell you one thing. If Bustamante wins, because of Tom with the tail, by God, I will figure him a full fledged Donkey. And, you can bet, as it sinks in, I won’t be alone. And all the “independents” won’t be enough in numbers to stop a lot of folks from getting real angry. Tom will have four legs, not two.
Anyway, Tom is a statesman. A great conservative. Principle.
And, maybe he’s also a great conservative, statesman, principle, and a donkey.
In one way, it’s the Republican Party’s own fault. So in that, I agree with the principled "independents”. They can argue very effectively the point about the logic of such “victory”. Yes, the logic of the Party’s victory sprang directly from her degradation brought about by the subject. And the independents tell us, that in loneliness we “shall not be alone” – for we are vast in numbers, smart, see the “long term”. But, well, to hell with them this time. I don’t think Tom is seeing the “long term”. Nope. So Lee Rogers can scream all he wants, and yes I’m one of those “crazy right-wingers” that Arnold spoke about, but I like Arnold, I know he’s my candidate, and now, with Tom becoming a donkey, Arnold is not only my choice but my hero. He’s a hero, he can win this one. And, when I say win, I’m not just talking about numbers and I’m not playing a crap game in an Indian casino. He’s a hero, because I believe he doesn’t care about the numbers, nor does he try to embarrass Tom. Yes, Tom has also been polite, but I can’t say Tom didn’t try to embarrass Arnold. Of course, I’m in effect calling Tom a donkey, so I a lot worse than either Tom or Arnold. But that’s about as far as I will go in regards to Tom McClintock, in calling him a stubborn mule. Others are going to get a lot more nasty. Tom DIDN’T think “long term”. In the next few days, either Tom will become the hero, or Tom is a real short timer, now.
Which do you think the Injun’s are betting on?
By the way, my wife just told me that the Indian’s want to build a casino in Antioch, California. It’s just on the news, now.
Wow. Ka-CHING! California, the big casino.
Hooo, boy. I'm going to save this for my "I told you so files."
The irony is Schwarzenegger's plan to rely on Indian casino money for the state revenue will make them even more powerfull.
Ummmmm, how often does one actually WIN an election with 20% of the popular vote? Just curious...
McClintock has always been a supporter of Indian "soverignty" and has always been supported by them.
He's not a hypocrite. He is very straightforward and open about it.
I am against gambling in California except for horse racing and think Indian gaming has not been good.
Schwarzenegger's idea to start relying on Indian gaming money makes it that much stronger and impssible to ever hold back.
Further Schwarzenegger has ties to Nevada gambling concerns and most likley will expand gambling beyond just Indian gaming -- all the "raise revenues".
Why is it that it is o.k. for the NAACP to use "colored people" in its name but in all other matters if you use that phrase you're a racist? For that matter, why is it that "people of color" is politically correct but "colored people" is not? Why is it that you will be called a racist if you dare to criticize black rappers can use "The N Word" and laugh about beating and raping women?
I used to struggle to try and find some consistancy in the rules of political correctness until I finally realized the single unifying principal: If you are a white male, you are wrong.
That 20% are the Trans-Republicans. While they claim to be the core of the Republican party, they actually go way beyond core Republican ideas and add their own narrow social agenda. In the battle between personal freedom and government control, they enthusiastically support the expansion of government. In the long run Republicans would be better off without them.
He waited too long and created expensive strategery problems for the party's choice. He will never be tapped or supported by the party to run against Feinstein or anyone else.
Please don't shoot the messenger. This is not a comment for or against each of the candidates. It's a comment on political reality. The good Tom McC will forever be known as an obstructionist and bitter-ender by the regular party, except for his hard-core base of supporters. If the Cali Republicans are re-invigorated by an Arnold victoy, there will be no room at the inn for the stick-to-your-principles McClintock.
Politics is unforgiving in the big leagues. It's always been so with both parties.
Leni
Since these are the groups I identify with, I'm not sure what you mean by "the excluded". These groups are better represented by Schwarzenegger than by McClintock. I realize that AS is not perfect; but he's the best we've seen for a long time and, if we blow this chance, who knows when we'll get another.
The homosexual lobby has two characteristics which define their ability to push their agenda:
1. They have far more money than their sheer numbers would indicate. As a group, they are amongst the wealthiest of all factions in the nation (a very high proportion of extremely wealthy artists, for one example). And they spread that money around to their patrons -- thickly. They "pay to play" and they pay in very large figures.
2. They are loyal to their patrons (the RATS), and in politics loyalty means everything. They can be relied on for money (first), publicity (there are lots of liberal groups who get all a-twitter over feeling like they are part of the modern "civil rights" movement), and their votes. They always stick with the RATS -- regardless of the positions of the particular RAT that is running. That loyalty (leavened heavily with money) brings results.
Nah, ya think ?
I hope they use a dull ostracizer.
Wasn't asked of me...but I'll give it a shot for you. Small government conservatism has been an anachronism for many generations now. Whether through the urbanization of the population (my choice), or just the much larger population generally, and through economic changes packing people into tighter and tighter urban geography (the loss of a powerfull, dominant even, rural society) -- or any of the many other factors in modern society -- the concept of a larger, more instrusive government, one that also provides a plethora of programs and services has become accepted and embraced by a sizable (huge even) majority of the society.
The government has literally evolved in that direction for at least a century and a half.
Even the greatest conservative leader of our time, Reagan, accepted the premise of a massive federal government -- he simply tried to tweak it here and there around the margins. The society, with the exception of a rather small faction, a faction which is particularly present here on this site, has fully accepted the concept of large, activist government structures.
So you are fighting an uphill battle, against the strong trends of time and evolution of the society. Which is why you have less and less success as time goes by.
The queers have seen their agenda advance because of the "live and let live" bent that a majority of americans have. Simply put, we, as social conservatives, have been unable to persuade a majority of our fellow citizens of the value of sodomy laws and other government positions that would support decency. If we keep working, perhaps this will be rolled back at some point, but now and recently, permissiveness reigns.
I would'nt say that we are in continuous retreat, though. A small number of people have been able to expand and defend Home Schooling rights for two decades now, despite a continuous attack by the education lobby, and being relatively small in number. This is an example of the libertarian undercurrent in many of our fellow citizens being used for something good.
It seems you don't read these posts very carefully. There's much more hostility directed at conservatives by social conservatives than there is going the other way. Who is it that uses the derisive and completely inaccurate term "RINO"?
Social conservatives have done their utmost to destroy the Republican party as a political force in California. If the polls are correct, Arnold offers an excellent chance to revive the California Republican Party and restore conservative to power.
The term "RINO" is an absurdity uttered by people who are neither Republican nor conservative. The notion that Republicans are a robotic army with no capacity for independent thought is simply ridiculous.
--One needs to actually hold an office to accomplish things that matter.
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That 20% are the Trans-Republicans. While they claim to be the core of the Republican party, they actually go way beyond core Republican ideas and add their own narrow social agenda. In the battle between personal freedom and government control, they enthusiastically support the expansion of government. In the long run Republicans would be better off without them.
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Many voters are unhappy with the demonrats but they vote demonrat because they are terrified by the radical right.
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Without McClintock in the race AS would've been able to simply disregard the 'right wing crazies' all together. Maybe that cost him money, I dunno.
However, for that I am truly grateful.
Yes, the reality is that the American Indians call themselves "Indians," not the ridiculously-PC "native Americans" we've all become accustomed to hearing from well-meaning but fork-tongued white man.
Polls really grease up this sense of insecurity and get conservatives to go moderate when they vote way too often.
Confidence and self assurance of a group so sure of their principles they stick to their guns and vote to promote them changes the center of gravity of elections and pulls the middle towards them.
I'm impressed by McClintock sticking to his guns. He knows where he stands. Too bad so many others are such 'fair weather conservatives.'
And I fully expect to be saying, "I told you so if the actor gets this role as Cali Govenor he wants so badly.
Idiotic.
If McClintock drops out, his supporters have no one to vote for. They don't vote, and Davis remains Governor.
RiNOLD has done nothing to attract McClintock supporters. Nothing.
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