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Aaron "The Clown" Brown Responds to My email
CNN's Aaron Brown | 9-30-03 | Lance Romance

Posted on 09/30/2003 6:02:01 PM PDT by Lance Romance

My Email to Aaron Brown:

Another poor job of reporting last night regarding the supposed leaking of a CIA "operative" and Joe Wilson's wife. First, you barely covered the fact that Joe's wife is really an "analyst" and not undercover, Robert Novak's admission that the Admin. official didn't call him, Joe's wife's name is on his bio website and the fact that Wilson blamed Karl Rove and then had to retract it. In fact, you seemed more than delighted to perpetuate the scandal than actually cover the facts. Once again, Fox news kicks your ass.

Aaron's Response

Gee, I had no idea. I thought we reported all this stuff( except for the bio which makes no sense at all since the question isn't her name but her job) I guess what this really must be is that the Director of the CIA who asked for the investigation is out to get the President.

I have no idea what Fox did or didn't do. I don't even care. I know what we did and we did just fine. Nice to hear from you.

A


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I can almost hear his nasally tone. He seems a little irked about the Fox News comment. F--- CNN.
1 posted on 09/30/2003 6:02:02 PM PDT by Lance Romance
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To: Lance Romance
The White House confirmed this morning that she was undercover. Text of an e-mail to White House staff Tuesday from counsel Alberto R. Gonzales PLEASE READ: Important Message From Counsel's Office We were informed last evening by the Department of Justice that it has opened an investigation into possible unauthorized disclosures concerning the identity of an undercover CIA employee.
2 posted on 09/30/2003 6:05:40 PM PDT by Symblized
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To: Lance Romance
He's definitely holding back his anger. But I commend him for not snapping. After all, Fox *IS* kicking their ass. :o)
3 posted on 09/30/2003 6:06:44 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Lance Romance
except for the bio which makes no sense at all since the question isn't her name but her job)

Brown should look at the Newsday article that says Wilson felt using her maiden name was an attempt to intimidate him and others.

4 posted on 09/30/2003 6:15:26 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Symblized
The White House confirmed this morning that she was undercover.

You are simply incorrect. I don't know why you and several other insist on not reading the note from the White House Counsel in its entirety.

The whole statement says, "We were informed last evening by the Department of Justice that it has opened an investigation into possible unauthorized disclosures concerning the identity of an undercover CIA employee."

That statement is reiterating what the accusation is, not that these are the concluded facts of the situation. The DOJ has opened an investigation. The investigation is to look into IF there was a possible unauthorized disclosure of an undercover CIA employee's identity.

In fact, the investigation is likely to conclude that NO unathorized disclosure occurred, because the law pertains to "covert agents", not analysts and Mrs. Wilson was/is an analyst.

Hence, even if an administration official (which doesn't mean anyone in the White House) had named Mrs. Wilson, it wouldn't matter because she was an analyst and the law (Title 50, Chapter 15, Section 421) doesn't apply to analysts.

Please read Novak's most recent statement to see that he said, ""ccording to a confidential source at the CIA, Mrs. Wilson was an analyst, not a spy, not a covert operator, and not in charge of undercover operatives."

5 posted on 09/30/2003 6:15:27 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: Symblized
The WH did not confirm she was
undercover. That is nothing more
than a stated allegation they will
investigate as part of the case.
Novak says he was told just the
opposite by CIA sources, and they
only suggested he not name her but
were okay with it anyway.

6 posted on 09/30/2003 6:17:26 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Lance Romance
On the contrary, Aaron.

The issue IS her name.

Who cares how many poeple know that Wilson is married to a CIA opertive - IF her identity could be kept secret.

By putting her name on his website, Wilson had already blown her cover big time.

I wouldn't even be surprised - in fact I expect - Wilson himself to be found out as the ultimate source of the "leak".
7 posted on 09/30/2003 6:21:14 PM PDT by John Valentine (In Seoul, and keeping one eye on the hills to the North...)
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To: Symblized
Title 50, Chapter 15, Section 421

Read the law. Get a clue.

8 posted on 09/30/2003 6:22:36 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: Lazamataz; Lance Romance
Wonder why he would respond? Seems like their first rule would be to not respond to anyone who's obviously pro-Fox...I mean they're not going to convert them, and they're leaving a paper (email) trail of their bias....

Actually, I got into it once with Jamie McIntyre about missile defense, and he defended himself admirably. He was wrong, but at least he responded. I give the CNN folks credit for that, at least. I've never heard back from Brit Hume.
9 posted on 09/30/2003 6:23:21 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Symblized
The text of the letter did not, in fact, comfirm that the Mrs Wilson was an undercover operative, only that the Justice Dept. was launching an investigation into the possible unauthorized release of the name of an undercover operative.

I know that the distinction is a bit fine and that I might be picking nits, so to speak, but accuarecy must be observed when posting information about such a touchy subject.

10 posted on 09/30/2003 6:23:27 PM PDT by The_Pickle ("We have no Permanent Allies, We have no Permanent Enemies, Only Permanent Interests")
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To: Lance Romance
I guess what this really must be is that the Director of the CIA who asked for the investigation is out to get the President.

Brown is demonstrating once again that he's just a pansy if this is the strongest comeback he can make.

Prairie

11 posted on 09/30/2003 6:23:45 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (My dad, a WWII veteran always said that America's best ally was...Britain. He was right.)
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To: sam_paine
I did thank Aaron for responding, but I had to point out that I was mad about anything they didn't cover, but instead how they covered it.

They did two segments in which only the Novak statement on his sources and the Wilson retraction were allowed to stand alone. They were just played and he went back to sliming Bush. The transcript bares this out.

12 posted on 09/30/2003 6:27:20 PM PDT by Lance Romance
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To: Lance Romance
I also posted an earlier email exchange between Aaron and myself about Al Franken. It's much more pathetic than this one.
13 posted on 09/30/2003 6:29:12 PM PDT by Lance Romance
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To: John Valentine
You are right on. In fact, last night Ramesh Ponnuru was alluding to how Wilson seems to be referring back to stories that he, himself, may have started to begin with.
THE CONFUSING WILSON STORY [Ramesh Ponnuru]
I understood Novak not to be denying that Plame/Wilson is involved in covert ops but to be saying that a CIA source had given him to understand that she was merely an analyst--a very different thing. Did whatever administration official spoke to Novak realize what her job was? If not, does his ignorance save him from breaking the law? There is rather a lot that's murky in this story. The Washington Post reports 1) that Joseph Wilson says that Andrea Mitchell, among others, told him that the administration had told her about his wife's job and 2) that Mitchell had reported that Wilson was saying that the administration had told reporters about his wife's job. So Mitchell's source was Wilson, but Wilson's source was Mitchell?

Source: The Corner, 09/29/2003 05:53 PM
I have been battling this issue (as many have) on another thread. I have amassed a ton of links that might be of interest to you.
14 posted on 09/30/2003 6:29:24 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: The_Pickle
In the e-mail, it is reiterating the charges made. And who is to say that she is the person in question? Maybe there is a parallel investigation that is going on? It was vaguely worded in that there isn't any specifics. The whole issue is all vaguely worded with out specifics.
15 posted on 09/30/2003 6:29:45 PM PDT by NotQuiteCricket (http://www.strangesolutions.com)
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To: Lance Romance
Thank you for writing Mr. Brown. You did great.
16 posted on 09/30/2003 6:31:18 PM PDT by solzhenitsyn ("Live Not By Lies")
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To: Lance Romance
I can't believe you actually have the stomach to watch and listen to that weasel.
17 posted on 09/30/2003 6:34:14 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Lance Romance
As Roger Ailes says, "He looks like my dentist".

18 posted on 09/30/2003 6:35:58 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I'm voting for Arnold. McClintock doesn't deserve my vote!)
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To: solzhenitsyn
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971597/posts


<> Al Franken Email Exchange

19 posted on 09/30/2003 6:36:36 PM PDT by Lance Romance
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To: mattdono
Thanks for the links.

To me, this is just the opening shot to Campaign 2004.

The Dems know they have a bunch of losers running against the President. They are desperately trying to organize another "Watergate".

This time around, their operatives are a bunch of zonked-out cokeheads, and it shows.

20 posted on 09/30/2003 6:37:25 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: The_Pickle; Symblized
You are exactly right. You are not picking nits at all.

The letter didn't concede any points at all. It was an announcement that an investigation was being conduct, an explanation about why the investigation was being conducted, and a directive to comply fully with the investigation.

That's it. No more, no less. Refreshing though to see a White House that actually ISN'T stonewalling at every turn of the page.

21 posted on 09/30/2003 6:37:50 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: Lance Romance
Sounds like you have a new pen-pal....
22 posted on 09/30/2003 6:40:05 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Happy Birthday, Mike...wish you were here.)
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To: Lance Romance
I noticed he signed his name, "A" must have been an e-mail glitch........it dropped the "sshole"
23 posted on 09/30/2003 6:40:38 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Palladin
I think that I read someone on FR opine that this is the way that the demoCREEPs are going to try to get into Karl Rove's email.

If they launch an investigation, the investigation is likely to entail Rove's email. Granted, it can't be a fishing expedition, but they might be able to gain some insights on the 2004 "strategery".

Since they can't beat Bush with their candidates AND they can't really beat Bush with the lying and deceit that is the demoCREEPs typical tactics, they need to see the "playbook".

That, or the demoCREEPs are trying to pitch a red herring to cover up the fact that a $50,000 donor to Hillary was just arrested with known financial connections to the terrorist group Hamas.

24 posted on 09/30/2003 6:42:36 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: Toespi
ROTFLMAO! Good one!
25 posted on 09/30/2003 6:43:23 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: Lance Romance
Send another e-mail, but sign your name 'William Rivers Pitt'.

Aaron likes to hear from him...
26 posted on 09/30/2003 6:44:20 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Lance Romance
Novak reported this several months ago. Why the stink now by the Dimocraps? If they think this will be another PR coup in the President's apparent lower ratings, calling for a special prosecutor, especially since that law has expired, seems to be overkill......or abject desperation.
27 posted on 09/30/2003 6:50:09 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: Lance Romance
Lance send him this link...

www.ajc.com/business/content/business/cnn/0903/30ratings.html

28 posted on 09/30/2003 6:54:40 PM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: Lance Romance
Good going. Good for you. Aaron is a huge clymer. Arrogant too.
29 posted on 09/30/2003 6:57:06 PM PDT by onyx (Ask the Indian$)
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To: sam_paine
"Wonder why he would respond?"

In my opinion it's because Lance Romance's comments hit home. He obviously felt the need to argue with them. If the comments were irrelevant, he would have zapped the email.
30 posted on 09/30/2003 7:29:22 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage
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To: Lance Romance
He is the most pompous of all weasels on that network. He, Judy W., and Bill P. are a perfect trifecta. I can't stand to watch them.
31 posted on 09/30/2003 7:31:31 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: Lance Romance
Irked by the comment? Maybe because Fox has more viewers than Headline Snooze, the Communist News Network, and PMSNBC combined.
32 posted on 09/30/2003 7:32:17 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: Timesink
Sounds like the AG is still active on e-mail after all...
33 posted on 09/30/2003 7:32:44 PM PDT by mhking (Anyone who disagrees with me is mentally ill and should be shot.)
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To: sam_paine
CNN is probably just happy that someone is still willing to write them. Brit Hume is great.
34 posted on 09/30/2003 7:34:24 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: Lance Romance
Please provide link.
35 posted on 09/30/2003 7:35:20 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: Symblized
The White House confirmed this morning that she was undercover. Text of an e-mail to White House staff Tuesday from counsel Alberto R. Gonzales PLEASE READ: Important Message From Counsel's Office We were informed last evening by the Department of Justice that it has opened an investigation into possible unauthorized disclosures concerning the identity of an undercover CIA employee.

I don't see Valerie's name here.

36 posted on 09/30/2003 7:35:53 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Toespi
LOL.
37 posted on 09/30/2003 7:36:37 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Hmmm?
38 posted on 09/30/2003 7:37:06 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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39 posted on 09/30/2003 8:07:05 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: mattdono
" Ramesh Ponnuru was alluding to how Wilson seems to be referring back to stories that he, himself, may have started to begin with."

Wilson has been behaving like a loose cannon.This raises the question- Why does his spouse ( or does she? ) have security clearance ? Red flags should have been raised by someone at Langley a long time ago, when a spouse has been behaving as erratically as JW. Could Wilson,be the source for Novak? Wilson admits he spoke to Novak,but, claims that he didn't give him anything.So, it's Novak v Wilson, right there. Wilson should be put under oath, also . Considering the amount of leaks coming out of DC,could Wilson,via his wife,be the source of some of the more egregious ones ? Will the phone records and emails from the Wilsons be investigated ? You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to sense that something is definitely fishy with Joseph Wilson's behavior. Memo to the Democrats: Best not to gleefully open Pandora's Box,if you don't know what will fly out.
40 posted on 09/30/2003 8:07:26 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Symblized
The White House confirmed this morning that she was undercover.

Didn't diagram a whole lot of sentences in elementary school, did you?

41 posted on 09/30/2003 8:08:52 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Lance Romance
Just out of curiosity, did you email Brown at his actual turner.com address, or via some generic address like "newsnight@cnn.com" or off a CNN web page? I'm just wondering if CNN even pays attention to stuff sent to those generic maildrop accounts. (They certainly never did in the past.)
42 posted on 09/30/2003 8:11:47 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Lance Romance
"I guess what this really must be is that the Director of the CIA who asked for the investigation is out to get the President."

When the sarcastic is the plausible, you gotta double check.

43 posted on 09/30/2003 8:16:36 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Leave, Pat, Leave!)
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To: Toespi
ROFLMAO!! Very witty retort. Sounds like one of A's buttons was pushed. hehehehe!!
44 posted on 09/30/2003 8:20:01 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Timesink
LOL! Yeah, Symblized is a hit-and-run artist. Makes a jacka$$ comment and doesn't stick around to defend. The DU troll patrol is out in force. These mother effers really don't know who they are messing with. Let me sound the battlecry:

EAGLES UP!

"Hast thou not known? Hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? There is no searching of his understanding. He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength. Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall: But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint."

» Isaiah 40:28-31


45 posted on 09/30/2003 8:21:21 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: Symblized
Anyone know what Joe's bio website address is?
46 posted on 09/30/2003 8:40:42 PM PDT by FLcitizen
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To: sam_paine
"I've never heard back from Brit Hume."

I have. :)

47 posted on 09/30/2003 8:44:34 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: Lance Romance
I guess Brown can please neither side. When I helped keep whackjob Will Pitt off his show, Pitt went ballistic on him.
48 posted on 09/30/2003 9:20:06 PM PDT by doug from upland (Why did DemocRATS allow a perjuring rapist to remain in the Oval Office?)
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To: Lance Romance
The insufferable puke brown came from the CBS affiliate in Seattle - think traitors bahgdad jim mcdermott and patty osama bin murray.

cnn is a natural for this anti-American pile of sh*t.

49 posted on 09/30/2003 11:18:10 PM PDT by tubavil
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Why not give CNN's NewsNight a chance and watch it for a week? Aaron Brown happens to be the best anchor around.

With over 250 members and still rising fast, The NewsNighters Club was formed for the best news anchor and man in general, Mr. Aaron Brown of CNN's NewsNight With Aaron Brown. It's the 1st ever online club for him. And the best. Aaron appreciates that we have the club in his honor.

GO TO THE NEWSNIGHTERS
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aaronbrown/
50 posted on 10/03/2003 8:02:00 AM PDT by jetdogy
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