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Radio host infuriates cyclists
The Raleigh News & Observer ^ | 10/1/03 | BRUCE SICELOFF

Posted on 10/01/2003 6:49:41 AM PDT by Hatteras

Radio host infuriates cyclists

By BRUCE SICELOFF, Staff Writer

G105 radio host Bob Dumas told listeners last week that he just hated to see bicycle riders on the road. He laughed at stories about running cyclists down, and he talked up the idea of throwing bottles at bikers. It wasn't funny to cycling enthusiasts across the Triangle. This week they are lobbying government officials and local advertisers in a campaign to punish radio station WDCG and its corporate owner, Clear Channel of San Antonio, and to promote bicycle safety."One caller said her dad had purposely hit a biker on the road on the way to church one Sunday and kept on going," said G105 listener Holly N. Proctor of Cary on Tuesday of the Sept. 21 and 22 broadcasts. "That got laughs. Bob thought that was funny.

"And Bob said he'd love to be on a motorcycle and driving it down a bike lane. Because he didn't think bikers should be allowed on the road. He said they should ride on the sidewalk," she said.

Proctor, a photo technician at N.C. State University, joined two dozen fellow cyclists at a 5 p.m. protest outside the radio station's offices in North Raleigh.

Tom Norman , director of the N.C. Division of Bicycle and Pedestrian Transportation , said that reports about the broadcasts revealed dangerous ignorance of state law.

"I have talked to the G105 manager, who was not aware that it is legal to ride bicycles on the public roadways of North Carolina, that cycles are legally recognized as vehicles in North Carolina," Norman said. "Where do you draw the line? What is the distinction between humor and actually inciting or encouraging listeners to harass a group of people?"

Kenneth C. Spitzer, the station manager, declined to provide tapes or transcripts of the broadcasts to Norman or to a Capital Area transportation planning committee that discussed the controversy Tuesday.

In e-mail responses to several Triangle area residents who complained to the station, Spitzer said the "Bob and Madison " show aims to entertain listeners with "animated banter ... that can be both humorous and caustic." But he said some comments last week "went too far, and for that we sincerely apologize.

"Be assured that G105 does not advocate harm to cyclists," he wrote.

G105 is the third Clear Channel station to draw fire in the past four months for on-air comments perceived as advocating violence or animosity toward bicycle riders. Officials at WMJI in Cleveland and KLOL in Houston apologized in July and September for similar remarks. They agreed to broadcast "share the road" messages and to finance bicycle safety campaigns.

Leaders of the N.C. Bicycle Club outlined requests they said would help Clear Channel "mend relations with Triangle bicyclists," including similar public safety campaigns and a detailed apology.

Spitzer declined to comment. A corporate spokeswoman to whom inquiries were directed Tuesday did not return calls.

Members of area cycling clubs have shared copies over the past week of protest letters to the Federal Communications Commission, to state and local prosecutors and to G105 sponsors. Several critics noted that G105 radio hosts have sparked controversy in the past with crude stunts.

"It's one thing to drive around with a naked man on the radio station's van," said Raleigh lawyer Kimberly Bryan. "To encourage citizens to harm cyclists, that has crossed a different line. It's irresponsible. It's not caustic, it's not banter, it's not funny."

David Smith , 38, a software developer at UNC-Chapel Hill, took it personally. His right forearm still bears the scar of an attack by an Orange County motorist who found Smith cycling down a rural road one afternoon in April 2001.

"How are people going to take this, what was mentioned on G105?" Smith asked. "Are people going to say, 'You know, I'm tired of these cyclists?' Is that situation going to exacerbate what happened to me, with somebody else coming down a back road?"

After running Smith off the road, the driver stopped, chased him down on foot and struck him with a hatchet, sending him into a ditch and over the handlebars of his wrecked bike. Marvin Glenn Manring of Orange County pleaded guilty in July 2001 to assault with a deadly weapon. He promised to enroll in an anger management program.

Staff writer Bruce Siceloff can be reached at 829-4527 or bsicelof@newsobserver.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bicycles; commuters; roadrage
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To: cyclotic
It's always been a fun decision for me: do I warn the parent who will then warn his kid(s), who'll then naturally look over their shoulders and start weaving, or just go past without any warning? I hate doing the latter...
141 posted on 10/01/2003 7:59:31 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: af_vet_1981
You crossed the line, especially during this week.

Just curious, what is significant about this week?

142 posted on 10/01/2003 7:59:42 AM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Hatteras
Put a sock in it. I ride year round. Bicyling is something lard butts polishing seats waiting for their heart attacks would behooved to give a try.

There are bad drivers and cyclists both. We could do dueling attrocities of the road here, but the bottom line is, cyclists are not the cannon fodder of the roadway. We have the right to be in the traffic mix.

Automobiles are not the only vehicles out there. And I'm here to tell you, if someone want to do someone like me in with roadway Nazism, they better be sneaky, and they better be quick. I'm no victim, nor an easy target. If someone seriously tried to kill me with their car and corners me into the realm of emminent harm, they will discover the beauty of allowing citizens concealed weapons permits. And I like nice firearms almost as much as I like expensive bicycles and am a damn fine shot, especially under pressure.

Using a car as a weapon is a felony. Harassment of cyclists is a crime as well.

So the fact there are too damn meny autos on the road is frustrating for people like you. Scapegoat cyclists at your own risk.

Some years ago I remember riding my bicycle in the middle of nowhere. A pickup truck veered in and I got drenched in beer, and it drove off with laughter of cowards fleeing in the wind.

Seems the were heading off to a rodeo. Right along my way back to the main route to head back to the city. I found their pickup truck and left them a note, thanking them for the beer, and four value cores I unscrewed from their fancy tires. They were lucky I took pity and merely did that.

This guy at the Clear Channel station should be fired. Guess I am going to be busier then I thought today doing some calls and writing some E mail letters.

143 posted on 10/01/2003 7:59:46 AM PDT by bicycle thug (Fortia facere et pati Americanum est.)
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To: af_vet_1981
You just did. Hit and run is a crime.

Bulls**t. I never advocated it. I stated that to point out that it is a possibility, with less responsible and more criminally-minded people.

Don't put words in my mouth. I don't know where your hands have been.

144 posted on 10/01/2003 8:00:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Rebelbase
How am I making it my "defense"? I'm talking about my right to be on the road - nay, I'm talking about where the law dictates that I must ride. My defense is following traffic laws and assuming that the drivers I share the road with don't see me. You may practice "defensive driving" I practice "defensive riding." You'd be surprised just how much more awareness of the road, and its occupants, you have when you're not enclosed in steel.
145 posted on 10/01/2003 8:00:23 AM PDT by olorin
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To: ArrogantBustard
I hate skaters. They toddle along in the middle of the trail, swinging their arms like the bunch of fairies they really are, and taking up the entire width. Worst, they refuse move to the side and let faster traffic pass.

I've seen people do exactly this in cars, too. Fortunately the Phoenix urban area has several hundred miles of off-road paved trails.

I skate with a club group that includes some cyclists (small children being pulled in a bike trailer, etc.) Cyclists, having much larger wheels, can take some trails skaters can't, but there is one major problem - their wheels are inflated with air. When we do a long skate with cyclists, there is usually at least one flat-tire hold somewhere along the way. On one memorable run recently, three of our four cyclists blew tires.

Bicycles have been around for two hundred years. Can't they come up with a better system?

146 posted on 10/01/2003 8:00:26 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Hatteras


147 posted on 10/01/2003 8:01:53 AM PDT by putupon (Those who disagree w/ me need sense beaten into their hard heads with a Blunt Instrument of Truth.)
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To: Hatteras
Oh, so now we resent bicyclists, too? It's not enough to hate people with hyphenated surnames, foreigners, illegal aliens, legal immigrants, and non-Caucasians. We now have to add bicyclists to our list.

Is it so hard for people to see that what the guy on the radio was doing was wrong? Joking about running people down on bikes? It's not even funny, it's just some retarded juvenile regression.

FR is turning into a haven for pathetic turds, and it's making conservatives look bad. We need to clean up FR and make it a place for decent, civilized folks again, not losers who have to look around each day finding another group to resent.
148 posted on 10/01/2003 8:01:54 AM PDT by paulklenk (DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: olorin
Only if it involved exercising my right to self-defense.

Fair enough. But over the course of this thread I've come to understand that you are not a militant bike freak who purposely slows down traffic.

If you were, I'd not be having this civil conversation with you.

149 posted on 10/01/2003 8:02:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: BlazingArizona
120 psi and a very thin wall of rubber = flats. Yes, they could put thicker rubber on, but the weight would be excessive.
150 posted on 10/01/2003 8:02:31 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: olorin
"So what do you do if a car is slowing you down?"

You give them a little love-tap on their bumper to get 'em loose and when they put down the cell phone and glare into the mirror, you give them a little wave as you accelerate past.

151 posted on 10/01/2003 8:02:47 AM PDT by Hatteras (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: CygnusXI
Drivers will flip the bird with no provocation and when they are in the wrong. So, what's your stinking point?
152 posted on 10/01/2003 8:02:56 AM PDT by bicycle thug (Fortia facere et pati Americanum est.)
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To: Hatteras
At stops signs I'll wait my turn. At red lights more often than not I'll ride up to the red light. It's safer as to cross as the light changes from red to green or go across in the crosswalk.
153 posted on 10/01/2003 8:03:07 AM PDT by ironman
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To: Hatteras
A half mile down the road, the traffic light turns red. Sure enough, here comes the bicyclist slipping by all the cars on the shoulder of the road where he finally stops right up at the front of the line. The light turns green and the cars back up again...

Don't you know that bicyclists obey all traffic laws? How dare you post something like this?

NOT

We see this every day in Austin. I used to have a Chevy full sized pickup with the HUGH mirrors. Pulled as close to the curb as possible. Electric windows and cold water also tend to stop the bikers from passing on the right.

154 posted on 10/01/2003 8:03:16 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (I am ashamed the dixie chicks are from Texas!)
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To: Skip Ripley
Oh, ok. Hard to tell from your post.
155 posted on 10/01/2003 8:04:37 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: cyclotic
Look, we can trade anectodal evidence all day. My primary beef is with folks who disregard the safety of others for their own selfish ends. I have bitched out just as many people who are stopped and chatting in the middle of our trail as I have people who are traveling at a high rate of speed with disregard for others.

Typically, the cyclists that don't respect the rules of safe travel present the most danger because the potential for injury from their misdeeds is greater than from some tub out for a cruise on his christmas inlines. Tubby ain't moving fast enough to hurt anyone, the Miguel Indurain wannabees are. If I see a knot of these cluelss goofs that like to weave all over (they're easy to spot) I slow down quickly until I can get a read on what they're goin to do next. It also helps to know when you're likely to encounter them. Sunday afternoons and nice evenings after the dinner hour are down time for me. If I can't hit it right at 5-5:30, I wait until it gets closer to must see TV time..
156 posted on 10/01/2003 8:05:59 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: olorin
.... lazy ass coward.

Bicycle Weenies are not at all interested in exercize.
Their sole interest is in disrupting others and looking sweet.

In fact, they spend thousands on the lightest, most effecient bikes and the slickest clothing, and the cutest pointy helmets, to reduce the effort they put out to as near zero as possible.
Exercize?
Bullshit.

I ride a bike for exercize.
It is an old 35 pound baloon tired "Paperboy Special". It has one speed.
When I ride I wear jeans and Doc Martins and a sweatchirt.
I am there to burn calories, not look sweet.

I ride on wide residential streets with low speed limits and little traffic.

Like possesion of spandex by men, riding on streets that actually go somewhere should be outlawed.

So9

157 posted on 10/01/2003 8:06:17 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Lazamataz
Just wanted to make it clear that my statement about concealed carry was preceded by: "For those drivers who feel like taking out a little aggression on a cyclist . . ."
158 posted on 10/01/2003 8:07:06 AM PDT by olorin
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To: olorin
Like I said, it amazes me at how cyclists put the "law" regarding their safety above common sense and the laws of physics.

The law says its illegal to mug or rob someone. Therefore I should be able to walk unmoletsted through the most crime ridden part of town at 1:00am Sat. morning and not worry, the "law" will protect me.

It is illegal to steal cars. Therefore I should be able to go to the grocery store and leave my car unlocked with the engine running and expect it to be there when I get back.

Its called common sense, excercise it.

159 posted on 10/01/2003 8:07:10 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: paulklenk
FR is turning into a haven for pathetic turds

I got some pathetic turds right here:


160 posted on 10/01/2003 8:07:33 AM PDT by putupon (Those who disagree w/ me need sense beaten into their hard heads with a Blunt Instrument of Truth.)
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