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Radio host infuriates cyclists
The Raleigh News & Observer ^ | 10/1/03 | BRUCE SICELOFF

Posted on 10/01/2003 6:49:41 AM PDT by Hatteras

Radio host infuriates cyclists

By BRUCE SICELOFF, Staff Writer

G105 radio host Bob Dumas told listeners last week that he just hated to see bicycle riders on the road. He laughed at stories about running cyclists down, and he talked up the idea of throwing bottles at bikers. It wasn't funny to cycling enthusiasts across the Triangle. This week they are lobbying government officials and local advertisers in a campaign to punish radio station WDCG and its corporate owner, Clear Channel of San Antonio, and to promote bicycle safety."One caller said her dad had purposely hit a biker on the road on the way to church one Sunday and kept on going," said G105 listener Holly N. Proctor of Cary on Tuesday of the Sept. 21 and 22 broadcasts. "That got laughs. Bob thought that was funny.

"And Bob said he'd love to be on a motorcycle and driving it down a bike lane. Because he didn't think bikers should be allowed on the road. He said they should ride on the sidewalk," she said.

Proctor, a photo technician at N.C. State University, joined two dozen fellow cyclists at a 5 p.m. protest outside the radio station's offices in North Raleigh.

Tom Norman , director of the N.C. Division of Bicycle and Pedestrian Transportation , said that reports about the broadcasts revealed dangerous ignorance of state law.

"I have talked to the G105 manager, who was not aware that it is legal to ride bicycles on the public roadways of North Carolina, that cycles are legally recognized as vehicles in North Carolina," Norman said. "Where do you draw the line? What is the distinction between humor and actually inciting or encouraging listeners to harass a group of people?"

Kenneth C. Spitzer, the station manager, declined to provide tapes or transcripts of the broadcasts to Norman or to a Capital Area transportation planning committee that discussed the controversy Tuesday.

In e-mail responses to several Triangle area residents who complained to the station, Spitzer said the "Bob and Madison " show aims to entertain listeners with "animated banter ... that can be both humorous and caustic." But he said some comments last week "went too far, and for that we sincerely apologize.

"Be assured that G105 does not advocate harm to cyclists," he wrote.

G105 is the third Clear Channel station to draw fire in the past four months for on-air comments perceived as advocating violence or animosity toward bicycle riders. Officials at WMJI in Cleveland and KLOL in Houston apologized in July and September for similar remarks. They agreed to broadcast "share the road" messages and to finance bicycle safety campaigns.

Leaders of the N.C. Bicycle Club outlined requests they said would help Clear Channel "mend relations with Triangle bicyclists," including similar public safety campaigns and a detailed apology.

Spitzer declined to comment. A corporate spokeswoman to whom inquiries were directed Tuesday did not return calls.

Members of area cycling clubs have shared copies over the past week of protest letters to the Federal Communications Commission, to state and local prosecutors and to G105 sponsors. Several critics noted that G105 radio hosts have sparked controversy in the past with crude stunts.

"It's one thing to drive around with a naked man on the radio station's van," said Raleigh lawyer Kimberly Bryan. "To encourage citizens to harm cyclists, that has crossed a different line. It's irresponsible. It's not caustic, it's not banter, it's not funny."

David Smith , 38, a software developer at UNC-Chapel Hill, took it personally. His right forearm still bears the scar of an attack by an Orange County motorist who found Smith cycling down a rural road one afternoon in April 2001.

"How are people going to take this, what was mentioned on G105?" Smith asked. "Are people going to say, 'You know, I'm tired of these cyclists?' Is that situation going to exacerbate what happened to me, with somebody else coming down a back road?"

After running Smith off the road, the driver stopped, chased him down on foot and struck him with a hatchet, sending him into a ditch and over the handlebars of his wrecked bike. Marvin Glenn Manring of Orange County pleaded guilty in July 2001 to assault with a deadly weapon. He promised to enroll in an anger management program.

Staff writer Bruce Siceloff can be reached at 829-4527 or bsicelof@newsobserver.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bicycles; commuters; roadrage
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To: stylin_geek
On those round-the-lake paths, 10mph is probably appropriate. In NoVa, we have an old railway converted to a multi-use path, as well as multi-use paths paralleling some of the major roads. They're wide, straight, and more suitable to high speeds.
251 posted on 10/01/2003 8:37:37 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: olorin
Indeed.
252 posted on 10/01/2003 8:37:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: olorin
And Lyndale Ave.
253 posted on 10/01/2003 8:38:35 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: cold_duck
"how many shots you think you can get off while being dragged behind an SUV?"

LOL! Some people just don't get it....

254 posted on 10/01/2003 8:38:37 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Lazamataz
Just what are you supposed to be pouring into that funnel????

I'm hoping beer.

You really don't want to know.

Really.

255 posted on 10/01/2003 8:38:51 AM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Centurion2000
My Dodge RAM carries 5 million ft-lbs of energy at decent speed.

Ooh, yet another driver feels the need to express that his truck is big and can squish little bikers. You really had to get that off your chest, huh? Well i hope you feel better now.

256 posted on 10/01/2003 8:39:20 AM PDT by olorin
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To: olorin
Have you even read any of this thread from the start?

It looks like he jumped in with both feet. (or is both wheels?)

257 posted on 10/01/2003 8:39:41 AM PDT by mhking (Anyone who disagrees with me is mentally ill and should be shot.)
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To: stylin_geek
Yes. Especially Lyndale Ave.
258 posted on 10/01/2003 8:39:45 AM PDT by olorin
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To: Skooz
You really don't want to know. Really.

Well, I've got a good appetite worked up for lunch and I'm about to go... but... tell me anyways.

259 posted on 10/01/2003 8:40:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: BlazingArizona
I ride with kevlar belted tires - two years & no flats.
260 posted on 10/01/2003 8:40:45 AM PDT by olorin
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To: BlazingArizona
I think that you'll find that there is no such thing as a "puncture-proof" tire. Some are better than others, though. Flats are just a part of cycling; always have and probably always will be.
261 posted on 10/01/2003 8:41:00 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: mhking
LOL
262 posted on 10/01/2003 8:41:10 AM PDT by olorin
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To: olorin
..Ooh, yet another driver feels the need to express that his truck is big and can squish little bikers. You really had to get that off your chest, huh?

Uhh, I think he wanted to get it off his front bumper.

263 posted on 10/01/2003 8:41:20 AM PDT by SGCOS
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To: SGCOS
I think you're probably right.
264 posted on 10/01/2003 8:41:52 AM PDT by olorin
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To: Lazamataz
And if you take hormones and grow breasts, it makes your chest more aerodynamic.

No, wrong, big boobs are not aerodynamic, they floop around in the wind. Boobs, like leg hair, are a drag against the wind and are not aerodynamic, leg hair needs to be shaved, for men, and boobs need to be strapped back as tight as possible with racing bras.

265 posted on 10/01/2003 8:42:01 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Lazamataz
Reprocessed beer, and water, and coke, and pepsi and wine, and mountain dew, etc.
266 posted on 10/01/2003 8:42:51 AM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Skooz; af_vet_1981
Just curious, what is significant about this week?

What Skooz said. Why is this week special?
267 posted on 10/01/2003 8:43:32 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: olorin; ArrogantBustard
I also have two rules I ride by, "I ride like I am invisible" and "I assume every car is trying to hit me."
268 posted on 10/01/2003 8:43:46 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: Lazamataz
Just what are you supposed to be pouring into that funnel????

I suppose one could shove astronaut food (the Apollo era kind) down it ...

269 posted on 10/01/2003 8:43:48 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (You don't buy beer. You rent it.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
No, wrong, big boobs are not aerodynamic, they floop around in the wind.

..... and the problem with that is....?

270 posted on 10/01/2003 8:43:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: olorin
I ride with kevlar belted tires - two years & no flats

Really? Wow. I may have to give them a try.

271 posted on 10/01/2003 8:43:59 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: bk1000
"Also, if one is to ride a bike on a street, he should have to wait in line and buy a tag, just like others on the road."

For your information some localities and states do require licenses. I've been to Hawaii many times for the Ironman Triathlon World Championship and have several state of Hawaii license stickers on my race bike. Any why did you add "wait in line"? It seems by adding those little 3 words you want to impose some similar "suffering" on others that you may have experienced.
272 posted on 10/01/2003 8:44:04 AM PDT by ironman
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To: Servant of the 9
The original paving of roads was at least as much due to the bikers as to the cars. Our system of roads owes a lot to the bikers. The bikers wanted paved roads so they could go somewhere, just like many today legally commute. Demanding that the bikers not actually go somewhere is about like saying the second ammendment only applies to hunting purposes.
273 posted on 10/01/2003 8:45:13 AM PDT by Geritol (Lord willing, there will be a later...)
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To: Sloth
Help me out. What traffic laws do you think I have broken?
274 posted on 10/01/2003 8:45:13 AM PDT by ironman
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To: Joe Hadenuf
...No, wrong, big boobs are not aerodynamic, they floop around in the wind.

Yeah, but if they're big enough you can stash an extra water bottle between 'em.

275 posted on 10/01/2003 8:45:16 AM PDT by SGCOS
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To: stylin_geek
An absolute must. After reading some of the comments on this thread, I'm more apprehensive that some of the drivers we share the road with are actually trying to hit us.
276 posted on 10/01/2003 8:45:19 AM PDT by olorin
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To: olorin
Personally, I view the road as my private domain. I've just had it up to here with stop signs, stop lights, intersections, other cars, trucks, old people, bicycles, skaters, joggers, children, cross walks, farm animals, the stupid Amish, cops in the middle of the street waving at me to stop, heck, even curbs and sidewalks. Its my road, I tell ya', so get off it and stay off it.
277 posted on 10/01/2003 8:45:24 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: Kleon
Roads was made for one puprose, for motorized vehicles only.
278 posted on 10/01/2003 8:47:03 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: stylin_geek
I also have two rules I ride by, "I ride like I am invisible" and "I assume every car is trying to hit me."

I hear tell that's good advice for bikers (Harley type), too. And Miata drivers ...

279 posted on 10/01/2003 8:47:07 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: RoughDobermann
http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/tires/race/ultra_gatorskin/ultra_gatorskin_en.html
280 posted on 10/01/2003 8:47:09 AM PDT by olorin
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To: Lazamataz; olorin
Let's keep it civil, people.
281 posted on 10/01/2003 8:47:19 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: olorin
Ooh, yet another driver feels the need to express that his truck is big and can squish little bikers.

It squishes a lot of things. The warning to you and bikers is this: don't argue physics laws when you are so far outclassed.

Be polite and you will not get run over, and remember that if you do break the traffic laws, and I wind up with your face decorating my grill, your insurance will be paying for the cleanup.

Cycling is fun (I do it myself). I'm just not going to be a sanctimonious a$$hole about it.

282 posted on 10/01/2003 8:48:18 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: ironman
I don't know what your local ordinances say, but vehicles are not supposed to be pulling around each other to try to get to the front of the line at a red light.
283 posted on 10/01/2003 8:48:25 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Admin Moderator; Lazamataz
Thanks for the concern, but we worked it out long ago - simple miscommunication.
284 posted on 10/01/2003 8:48:35 AM PDT by olorin
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To: olorin
How much?
285 posted on 10/01/2003 8:48:52 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Skooz; Lazamataz
That reminded me of a really weird cartoon I saw a while back.
286 posted on 10/01/2003 8:49:43 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Eschew exclamatory abuse.)
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To: KevinDavis
Roads was made for one puprose, for motorized vehicles only

Are you sure they was?

287 posted on 10/01/2003 8:50:09 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: ironman
Well, Motorists shouldn't have a problem with the bicyclists who follow the rules. Bicyclists shouldn't have a problem with motorists who follow the rules and don't try to hit the cyclists. If you drive/bike sensibly there shouldn't be a problem. THe jerks-- bicyclists or motorists should be treated as aberrations, the 0.01%
288 posted on 10/01/2003 8:50:30 AM PDT by Cronos (W2004)
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To: Admin Moderator
You came to the party a little late.

;^)
289 posted on 10/01/2003 8:51:21 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Constitution Day
Weird is the word.

Thanks for sharing it (I think).

290 posted on 10/01/2003 8:51:43 AM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: Lazamataz
I really resent losers who look around each day to find another group to resent.

Hey, I resent that!
291 posted on 10/01/2003 8:52:11 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte; Skooz
What Skooz said. Why is this week special?

It's National Computer Learning Week!!!

292 posted on 10/01/2003 8:52:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: newgeezer
didjuicythis?
293 posted on 10/01/2003 8:52:31 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: Hatteras
This thread sure brings out the road ragers.
294 posted on 10/01/2003 8:52:42 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Constitution Day
That's the down & dirty side of Arrakis that Frank Herbert wouldn't write about.
295 posted on 10/01/2003 8:52:53 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Lazamataz
LOL! I see where i made a little typo you picked up.
296 posted on 10/01/2003 8:52:53 AM PDT by ironman
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To: Lazamataz
No, wrong, big boobs are not aerodynamic, they floop around in the wind.

..... and the problem with that is....?

Well, big ones can hit you in face when your bike goes over speed bumps and when zooming through traffic and they must be bound tight with a racing bra.

Leg hair must be shaved everyday, because those tiny little hairs actually grab the wind and slow you down.

297 posted on 10/01/2003 8:53:03 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Centurion2000
Where did I argue physics laws? And should I get sanctimonious about drivers that break traffic laws and put me in danger?

I've driven vehicles a lot bigger than your little pickup - yet I've never felt the need to remind people in smaller vehicles that I could squish them.
298 posted on 10/01/2003 8:53:12 AM PDT by olorin
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To: Xenalyte; Skooz
Seriously, it's Rosh Hashanah.
299 posted on 10/01/2003 8:53:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: RoughDobermann
If I remember right they were about $95 a set.
300 posted on 10/01/2003 8:54:00 AM PDT by olorin
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