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To: coloradan
If, hypothetically, the situation unfolds exactly as you have predicted, and the mess never comes, will you have the integrity to admit that you are wrong...?

Why sure. You don't have to look to hard to find that drugs = mess. In the U.S., through history, throughout the world. Opium was legal at first, but people started noticing problems. Governments of all types throughout the world make drugs illegal. That is why you can't point out the jursidiction in which the libertarian drug legal utopia exists.

Maybe all these different Governments just do it for the love of power. Or maybe there are good reasons, having to do with the costs with which addicts burden society.

When you come across a wall, find out why it was built before you tear it down.

(And I note that you are not disagreeing that "medicinal marijuana" is just a back door ruse for legalization of marijuana).

23 posted on 10/01/2003 1:59:08 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
You don't have to look to hard to find that drugs = mess. In the U.S., through history, throughout the world. Opium was legal at first, but people started noticing problems.

Yes indeed! There were problems: Chinese immigrants were using opium, so opium was criminalized. And Irish drank, so there was prohibition. Then black jazz musicians started using pot in number, and we got the fine example of journalistic integrity, "Reefer Madness" and that was criminalized (with the assent of Du Pont which wanted military fabric to be made of nylon, not hemp). Then, inner city blacks started using cocaine, so that was out. And then counterculture hippies protesting the Viet Nam war were using psychedelics, and that was out. The banning of drugs has been based on the need to criminalize certain segments of population for more than a century. And it continues today: crack cocaine, favored by blacks, is somehow more illegal than regular cocaine, favored by whites, even though it's the same stuff. You, apparently, support such oppression.

Governments of all types throughout the world make drugs illegal. That is why you can't point out the jursidiction in which the libertarian drug legal utopia exists.

Yes, it's a tool of power and corruption the world over, which is why people in power keep it that way.

Maybe all these different Governments just do it for the love of power. Or maybe there are good reasons, having to do with the costs with which addicts burden society.

As opposed, say, to the costs which prohibition costs society? Hundreds of billions of dollars a year, lost rights, innocents killed in wrong-address no-knocks, the highest prison population in the world, etc? What about those costs?

When you come across a wall, find out why it was built before you tear it down.

I know why it was built. Do you?

45 posted on 10/01/2003 3:02:56 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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