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Libertarians Moving to N.H. to Establish 'Free State'
Fox News ^ | Wednesday, October 01, 2003 | associated Press

Posted on 10/01/2003 2:46:47 PM PDT by archy

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

CONCORD, N.H. — A group of libertarians announced a project Wednesday to get 20,000 Americans to move to New Hampshire and work to transform it into a "free state" with fewer laws, smaller government and greater liberty.

New Hampshire, whose motto is "Live Free or Die," beat out nine other finalists for the Free State Project. Wyoming was runner-up in balloting conducted by about 5,000 members of the project around the country, vice president Elizabeth McKinstry said.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Delaware; US: Maine; US: Montana; US: New Hampshire; US: North Dakota; US: South Dakota; US: Vermont; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: freestate; freestateproject; fsp; nh; porcupines
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To: BUSHdude2000
At least this particular bunch of "limpertarians" are actually DOING something to restore liberty and limited government in this country. What are you bush-bots doing? Vote for Bush and watch government grow faster than under Clinton and with Trillion dollar deficits to boot. Wonderful.
41 posted on 10/01/2003 7:28:08 PM PDT by StockAyatollah
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To: BoomerBabe
From the newspaper article I glanced at today it looked like Bedford's taxes may almost double due to a big school-building binge.
42 posted on 10/01/2003 7:28:46 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: JerseyHighlander
We'll all get ourselves elected and we'll get the government the hell out of the education business. :-)
43 posted on 10/01/2003 7:32:25 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Beelzebubba
Me too. I support the FSP, but I wouldn't want to move to NH, but a chapter of life in Wyoming would be cool as hell.
44 posted on 10/01/2003 7:32:37 PM PDT by krb (the statement on the other side of this tagline is false)
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To: AmericaUnited
It's not 100% heaven.

Not yet. :-)

45 posted on 10/01/2003 7:33:08 PM PDT by krb (the statement on the other side of this tagline is false)
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To: StockAyatollah; GOPcapitalist
What do limps do? They are classic run and hide kids. They'd have more effect getting involved with the GOP and changing it from within rather than running races where they get 7 votes, except for the presidential race where Browne gets 25 votes nationwide every 4 years.
46 posted on 10/01/2003 8:01:19 PM PDT by BUSHdude2000
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To: krb
Me too. I support the FSP, but I wouldn't want to move to NH, but a chapter of life in Wyoming would be cool as hell.

Just FYI, we are NOT shutting down the WYoming *WYFSP* discussion group just because of the NH selection. The stated goal for the project is Liberty in our lifetime and not just in one state.

If you'd like to go on the PorcuPing list here or join in on the WY state discussions, we'd be glad to have you, just as we'd be glad to have you as a neighbor out in Big Sky Country. And the Montana and other state groups have info worth checking out too- even the *New Hampster* state group.

-archy-/-

47 posted on 10/01/2003 8:08:59 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: BUSHdude2000
Really? Look at how much respect and influence conservatives get from and with Arnold supporters in California.
48 posted on 10/01/2003 8:15:29 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: BUSHdude2000
They'd also have more effect moving into a traditionally Democrat state (such as, oh, say DELAWARE) where they (1) cannot do any harm by taking votes away from the Republican while (2) simultaneously providing at least an alternative to the dems in races where where we don't run candidates.
49 posted on 10/01/2003 8:26:18 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: Tench_Coxe
Look at how much respect and influence conservatives get from and with Arnold supporters in California.

California is a leftist state and that fact is unavoidable. That means for the time being that Arnold is about the best we can hope to get there.

50 posted on 10/01/2003 8:28:03 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: John Will
Is N.H. a liberal or consertive state?

It's essentially the only conservative state in New England and has been for quite some time. I was actually hoping they would pick Delaware, which is a traditionally Democrat state (though not necessarily a liberal one). By moving to NH, which is both conservative and republican, the libertarians will at best win a couple school board races while providing spoiler candidates in any close major race between a Dem and a Repub. In Delaware they could have potentially run candidates in races that the Republicans aren't credibly waging either.

51 posted on 10/01/2003 8:31:53 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: Blood of Tyrants
My company installed and commissioned a gas turbine and waste heat boiler in a paper mill up in Groveton (waaayyy up north) and I spent the better part of three months in Lancaster. There is a small town just north of the Franconia Pass called Littleton. I just love that town. It is right out of a Rockwell painting. Kids walking in groups to school, nice little houses along the road. If I were to move anywhere, I would like to move there. I sure would miss my nice long Tennessee summers, though

I've been working out of Memphis for the last half-dozen-plus years; I know what you mean about the TN summers. And the people here are great, even most of the ones here in Memphis, a few nasty and crabby ones aside.

But oh yeah, it's pretty up in and around New Hampshire's White Mountains- the old Mountaineer passenger train run jointly by the Boston & Maine and Maine Central railroads ran through there until service ended in 1972.

But now the Conway Scenic Railroad is running passenger specials through the notch area again. And they took that boarded-up old Conway passenger station and restored it to the thing of beauty it once was. Yeah, that'd be a mighty pretty area to settle down in, even if you did miss out on Tennessee summers. But in return, you'd get those beautiful New Hampshire autumn sunsets....


52 posted on 10/01/2003 8:37:33 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: GOPcapitalist
By moving to NH, which is both conservative and republican, the libertarians will at best win a couple school board races while providing spoiler candidates in any close major race between a Dem and a Repub. In Delaware they could have potentially run candidates in races that the Republicans aren't credibly waging either.

Gee, and I was hoping that the political arm that emerges from the FSP- call it the *porcupine party* for reference sake- would find common cause with New Hampshire Republicans like Governor Benso who gave us that nice welcome, thereby ofsetting any alliances between the third-place Democrats and NH independent voters, whose number is larger than that of the Democrats, and nearly equals that of the Republicans.

But if I understand you correctly, the RINO contingent will be so far to the left of the Democrats that it won't even be worth our while to reach accomodations or political alliances with them. Well, okay. Good thing the FSP recruitment will be continuing even as the first 20,000 pledged FSP members are relocating; two years ago, zero; a year ago, one thousand; now 5500. In a year, 10K, in two 20K. Assuming the present membership rate remains constant of course...and doesn't increase. And by 2008? Well, you figure it out.

But for now, we'll see what can be done with just 20,000 Porcupines. And, of course, a quarter-million NH independents:

NH State voter registration, September ’02 2001
[after list purge]

REPUBLICANS 245,791/ 37.3%
UNDECLARED 242,028/ 36.8%
DEMOCRATS 170,405/ 25.9%


53 posted on 10/01/2003 8:48:41 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy
Let me know if there's a clearing house website for information on moving. NH is cold but at least they have ports.
54 posted on 10/01/2003 9:03:00 PM PDT by nunya bidness (sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
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To: nunya bidness
Let me know if there's a clearing house website for information on moving. NH is cold but at least they have ports.

There should be all sorts of info and assistance available through the NH FSP state Yahoo discussion group. Check it out here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhlivefreeordie/

-archy-/-

55 posted on 10/01/2003 9:30:38 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy
Thanks.
56 posted on 10/01/2003 10:09:57 PM PDT by nunya bidness (sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
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To: archy
If I remember correctly, that last picture was taken from a scenic tourist spot just above the Gap. How close am I?
57 posted on 10/02/2003 5:45:11 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: BUSHdude2000
They are classic run and hide kids.

Run and hide? This is the group that believes there should be no more restriction on the sale and carry of firearms than there would be for a circular saw.

Too bad "conservative" Republicans caved on the 2A issue.

58 posted on 10/02/2003 6:03:04 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: archy
I have a fresh BS in Electrical Engineering.
My concentration was in Controls.

You can still smell the wet ink.
59 posted on 10/02/2003 8:22:04 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: BUSHdude2000
We will do what the Socialists did in Vermont.

Of course.
60 posted on 10/02/2003 8:23:17 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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