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WMD: Blair was right
The Online Sun (United Kingdom) ^ | Thursday, October 2, 2003 | TREVOR KAVANAGH

Posted on 10/02/2003 8:01:55 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree

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To: billbears
The WMDs were not there, Kay as much said so in his report.

He said the opposite. And I'm not a Republican.

Other than that, you make complete sense.

61 posted on 10/03/2003 8:39:46 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Coop
We have not yet found stocks of weapons, but we are not yet at the point where we can say definitively either that such weapon stocks do not exist or that they existed before the war and our only task is to find where they have gone.

What do you not understand about that? He said at this point they can not prove the weapons are there. Rudimentary programs sure, but rudimentary programs don't present a direct threat to this nation either

62 posted on 10/03/2003 8:43:51 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears
but rudimentary programs don't present a direct threat to this nation either

Duh, gee, and neither do airliners.

Oh, wait...

I really think you'd be happier over at DU, although I do give you credit for at least staying around to argue your weak point.

63 posted on 10/03/2003 8:46:56 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Pippin
Another ping to great news.
64 posted on 10/03/2003 9:37:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
A UK paper defending Tony Blair. The President on TV with Bernard Kerik. Today is a good day for the good guys ~ Bump!
65 posted on 10/03/2003 10:17:43 AM PDT by blackie
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
bump
66 posted on 10/03/2003 10:21:53 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
bump for publicity
67 posted on 10/03/2003 10:35:36 AM PDT by VOA
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
The slogan of our 'elite media': "All the news that fits our spin."
68 posted on 10/03/2003 11:54:11 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("We hang petty thieves, we elevate the great ones to public office." Aesop, 600BC)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Interesting that Kay's report is being spun a different way in the U.S. Instead of Bush being 'vindicated' the lefties are screaming "See! We told you there were no WMD."

Of course, those same lefties all thought Iraq had WMD when Clinton said they had 'em.

69 posted on 10/03/2003 11:56:53 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: billbears
"Kay admitted to have found nothing."

To say Kay found nothing (or that he admitted to finding nothing) is hyperbole at best. No, Kay and his team have not found barrels of anthrax, but his report outlines a number of things they found that proves Saddam violated the UN resolutions, many of which were pointed at keeping him from developing WMD.

70 posted on 10/03/2003 11:59:37 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: billbears
"you'd see the evidence just isn't what it was promised to be"

Evidence, please, for these so-called 'promises'.

We went to war because Saddam was in violation of the UN resolutions. There is ample evidence in the Kay report of those violations. (We actually had ample evidence of same before we went in.)

71 posted on 10/03/2003 12:03:27 PM PDT by MEGoody
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To: billbears
Rudimentary programs sure, but rudimentary programs don't present a direct threat to this nation either

Ummmm...maybe you missed the following:

Chillingly, they also unearthed documents and equipment concealed in scientists’ homes for “resuming uranium enrichment” — a key stage in the making of nukes.

According to the IAEA's own reports..."Thus, Iraq could be capable of producing a nuclear weapon in less than a month with sufficient diverted or stolen fissile material if it has managed to fabricate and conceal all of the non-nuclear components of a weapon." The CIA and the IAEA have both stated that Iraq had 580 lbs. of uranium.

Dr Kay’s report says: “The scientist who concealed the vial has identified a large cache of agents that he was asked, but refused, to conceal. The group is searching for the second cache. One ex-biological weapons scientist confirmed a production line could be switched to produce anthrax in a week.”

This one speaks for itself. And while they may not be able to hit the US, the article stated that they were seeking missiles that could reach the UK. I think that would be considered a direct threat.
72 posted on 10/03/2003 1:18:46 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: TonyInOhio; TruthShallSetYouFree
"And he was already negotiating with rogue state North Korea to buy long-range rockets that could have launched nuclear AND chemical warheads at UK bases in the Med. The experts also unearthed secret bio-weapons labs, new strains of lethal diseases, a deadly bug hidden in a scientist’s home — and evidence of possible chemical weapon tests on human victims."

THIS IS A TOTAL VINDICATION FOR BOTH BLAIR and BUSH!

However .. I had a response from a poster here which explained a lot of things to me.

I ask - "why is the media hiding this information?".

The reply was: Because if the media gives a lot of exposure to this - it says: BUSH WAS RIGHT - BUSH STOOD BY HIS CONVICTIONS - BUSH IS A GOOD GUY - I WILL VOTE FOR BUSH.

That's why the media is hiding this information.
73 posted on 10/03/2003 1:19:50 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America - The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: billbears
Oh and P.S... Saddam could have sold those weapons to terrorists who could have smuggled them out of Iraq for use against the U.S.
74 posted on 10/03/2003 1:22:14 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: shezza
Ping-a-ling-a-ling......

"You rang?"
75 posted on 10/03/2003 1:24:34 PM PDT by N8VTXNinWV
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To: ravingnutter
This one speaks for itself. And while they may not be able to hit the US

Thank you, you closed the case right there.

they were seeking missiles that could reach the UK. I think that would be considered a direct threat.

Why? When did this nation of states go through the procedure to annex the United Kingdom? Are they now included of the borders of this nation?

76 posted on 10/03/2003 1:42:38 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; Coop; MEGoody; ravingnutter; VRWC_minion
The bulkiest item would fit in a two-garage.

They've only searched 10 of 130 sites.

They've been sabotaged and harassed to inhibit their search.

Precursors and equipment have been removed from in-country.

Will those who bleat boringly "no evidence" eat the vial of botulin? Didn't think so.

77 posted on 10/03/2003 7:32:17 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: billbears
If you read this report and see no threat you're as deluded as Kofi/Kennedy/Pelosi/press. THIS report was the reason for the week's little press scams - Wilson leak, Rush and Arnold lynching and the pre-report scheme to make the world think Kay's team failed to find evidence of Saddam's bad behavior (after just 3 months and while still under attack).

Enough with the lies!

Saddam was absolutely a threat.

Case closed.

8 STATEMENT BY DAVID KAY ON THE INTERIM PROGRESS REPORT [IRAQ WMD]

78 posted on 10/03/2003 8:46:34 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (THE PRESIDENT: Bernie, you're a good man. MR. KERICK: Thank you, Mr. President. WH, 10/3)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Leaders of rogue nations around the world trembled at the sight of the US enforcing UN mandates as our military took Baghdad faster than corn traveling through a goose. What solice they must be basking in now knowing how difficult the 'Rats have made it to exercise the threat to do it again if need be. What dishonor the 'Rats do to the men and women who are sacrificing their time, comfort, and lives to protect us. It's shameful that any 'Rat can poll over 10%.
79 posted on 10/03/2003 8:51:38 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
From your report

We have not yet found stocks of weapons, but we are not yet at the point where we can say definitively either that such weapon stocks do not exist or that they existed before the war and our only task is to find where they have gone. We are actively engaged in searching for such weapons based on information being supplied to us by Iraqis.

Wraps it up for me. Saddam may have been a threat to another nation in the region, but he was not a direct and viable threat to the borders of this nation of states

80 posted on 10/04/2003 5:48:15 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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