Sunday: LA Times Alleges 4 More Women

NewsMax ^ | October 5, 2003 | NewsMax Wires

[Bubba_Leroy]

The Los Angeles Times is continuing its “puke” campaign against Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger, reporting on Sunday that four more women have stepped forward to accuse the actor of improper sexual advances. The paper says that so far “15 women have now accused the Republican candidate for governor” of having “fondled, spanked or touched them in incidents they said took place as recently as 2000 and as long ago as 1979.”

Schwarzenegger attacked the papers reports as part of a last minute puke campaign" aimed at torpedoing his expected victory on Tuesday.

Incredibly, the Times received these allegations on Saturday and with the most minimal of vetting, ran the allegations in Sunday’s papers.

The new allegations include:

“A 51-year-old woman who said Schwarzenegger pinned her to his chest and spanked her shortly after she met him at a West Los Angeles post-production studio in 2000.

”Tamee Smith, 46, who said Schwarzenegger followed her into a bathroom on a studio lot and grabbed her breast during work on the movie "Predator" in 1986.

”Jan Prinzmetal, 50, who said Schwarzenegger reached under her skirt and grabbed her bare buttocks outside a Venice gym in the mid-1980s.

”Elizabeth Rothner, 45, who said Schwarzenegger lifted her sweatshirt at a popular Santa Monica bar in 1979, exposing her bare breasts before a crowd.

”The Times provided details of each of the new allegations to Schwarzenegger's campaign Saturday. The candidate's spokesman, Sean Walsh, said Schwarzenegger had said that the accounts of three of the women were untrue. Walsh said Schwarzenegger had no recollection of the alleged Venice gym incident.”

[Bubba_Leroy]

The democRAT puke campaign continues.

[Lizavetta]

Better to be groped by Arnold than robbed daily by Gray Davis.

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[Clara Lou]

It seems that the "puke" is splashing back on the Democrats. This is pathetic-- pathetic women, pathetically desperate Democrats.

[calljack]

Better to be groped by Arnold than robbed daily by Gray Davis.
Not sure robbed is the right word here. It does start with an R however.

[EggsAckley]

ping

[Quix]

HEY, LA SLIMES!!!

What dreamy eyed, gahgah minded, aspiring groupie or even just yearning woman worth her hormones

would

NOT like to line up as having been groped by the famous hands and biceps? Not a lot to lose, lots to gain--at least in ego and self-esteem.

Imagine getting ready for the daily sower/bath and gazing in one's mirror . . . ahhhh, yes, such a body--touched by the master . . . hot stuff.

And that's not counting bragging rights.

Nor is it counting the potential for publicity, noise, hoopla and blackmail money--at least for those given to wild fantasies.

[wheelgunguru]

pathetic women

Maybe they smell money, as in, a class action lawsuit for emotional duress, or something.

[EggsAckley]

EggsAckley!!

[YaYa123]

This is getting silly....and exposes the LATimes more than Arnold.

First the LAtimes said it took 7 weeks to investigate the first women who came forward. (Which of course was a lie...they got the info from Premiere Magazine and sat on it till the end.) But their line was, it took that long to edit and check for accuracy.

So what's happening now.... The LATimes is publishing over night, over the transom names without checking the facts! It's a joke for the LATimes to say Gray Davis didn't have any part in this. He didn't have to!!!! The LATimes is an independent branch of the Gray Davis Campaign.

[Quix]

Thanks.

[Hugin]

Of course the LA Slimes still doesn't see fit to print any of the allegations about Gray Davis' ragaholic verbal and physical attacks on his staff, including shoving a 60 year old female secratary out of the room. No, it would be unfair to print such allegations against a (RAT) politician based on anonamous accusations.

[Wait4Truth]

Just a word of good news! Fox News just said the police in Sacramento told them there are more than 10,000 people at the Arnold rally that he is doing right now!

[BunnySlippers]

LIVE Arnold rally on CNN right now. Huge crowd ... pumped up!

[RightOnline]

As soon as I see major headlines in the LA Slimes excoriating Clinton and his horrific sexual assaults / rapes, then I might pay attention. Until then, they can keep their blatant partisanship, bias, and hypocrisy to themselves.

[BunnySlippers]

1979, 1980, 1986 and 2000. Why did these women wait til this week to come forward. Are they registered Democrats and how much were they paid?

[Sacajaweau]

Elizabeth Rathner was 11 in 1979. Jan wasn't wearing underwear (bare buttocks).

[SkyPilot]

I want to come forward next. I saw Arnold take a GUN and fire it directly at actress Linda Hamilton!!!!!

[anniegetyourgun]

What will the Slimes have to report on after Tuesday's election? Oh yeah, back to the White House "scandal" and Rush, the racist addict.....

[BonnieJ]

It would take nothing to create a story like the ones we're hearing now. All you'd have to do is be assoicated with him through a movie or event, as thousands have been over the years. Then think up a harrassment situation. No witnesses, no proof. These women get their names in the news and they probably are paid, anyway. What's to lose from their standpoint? I don't see ANY of it going anywhere, and the allegations are not convicing.

Some here believe it all, some that I would never suspect it of. People sure can be gullible, no wonder Democrats get control of so much and manage to smear so many. It IS time to fight back in a real way. How can we?

[Moonmad27]

Even better - when the speaker mentioned the LA Times at the Sacramento Rally (while the Fox news guy was speaking in the foreground) you could hear the crowd start booing!

[RonDog]

Why did these women wait til this week to come forward.
Are they registered Democrats and how much were they paid?

We know about ONE of the women involved, from:

The Davis Touch: A Democratic operative is behind part of the Times’ latest story
LA Weekly ^ | 10-4-03 | Bill Bradley
Posted on 10/04/2003 1:43 PM PDT by ambrose

OCTOBER 3 - 9, 2003

The Davis Touch
A Democratic operative is behind part of the Times’ latest story
by Bill Bradley

The L.A. Times has a story Saturday about three more women who allege that gubernatorial front-runner Arnold Schwarzenegger engaged in sexual misconduct over the years. Schwarzenegger, on his bus tour north of Fresno, said charges in Saturday’s story "are absolutely untrue."

The Times maintains that none of the women came forward at the behest of Schwarzenegger’s opponents. That claim, however, is looking increasingly dubious. One of the three women in the story says she came forward at the urging of Jodie Evans, described by the Times as a peace activist and "co-founder of the women’s peace group Code Pink." At best, this is an incomplete, misleading description

Here’s what the newspaper should have said about Evans. She is actually a former close colleague of Gov. Gray Davis, a longtime Democratic operative and a friend of noted Democratic hit man Bob Mulholland. Evans is also the ex-wife of Westside financier Max Palevsky, the man who gave Gray Davis his first job in politics as the fund-raiser in Tom Bradley’s 1973 mayoral campaign.

Oops! Someone should have told John Carroll, the Times editor and anti-bias crusader.

Evans worked closely with Davis in the administration of Gov. Jerry Brown. While Davis served as Brown’s chief of staff, Evans was Brown’s chief fund-raiser and director of administration in the governor’s office.

Why didn’t the Times give an accurate description of Evans, who has pushed at least one woman to come forward with last-minute charges? On the campaign bus outside Fresno just now, I asked veteran Times columnist George Skelton, who acknowledges the reality of Evans’ deep ties to Davis and the Democrats, why the Times described her so disingenuously.

"Maybe the reporters and editors just didn’t know," he says.

The Times is presenting itself authoritatively on these matters. If the Times doesn’t know where the stories are coming from, what else does it not know? If the Times is not ignorant about these connections, that is whole different kettle of fish.

As most Californians know by now, Davis is the champion of negative campaigning and has nearly perfected the strategy of last-minute allegations breaking in the final days of the campaign. It should not be surprising to Times Mirror Square that his fingerprints appear on at least the latest story.

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[SkyPilot]

The LA Times has waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overplayed their hand. They got caught being an outhouse for the DNC, and now they are overplaying their hand further to cover up their own manure. They also violated the journalistic "ethic" (if they have any) of allowing Arnold to respond the allegations before they went to print.

They never did this....and I hope it backfires on them.

[Southack]

"The latest findings are based on interviews conducted between Sept. 26 and Oct. 4 with likely voters in California. The survey was done by Knowledge Networks (http://www.knowledgenetworks.com/ganp) in collaboration with the Stanford-Hoover group. The poll showed continued support for the recall with approximately 59 percent still in favor of the recall and support for Schwarzenegger increasingly slightly to 43 percent."

Arnold Increases His Lead Due To Voter Backlash Against Dirty Politics

'Tis a thing of beauty to see the LA Times' strategy of a hit per day against Arnold backfiring, and instead working **for** the Gubernator!

[anniegetyourgun]

I'm shocked...shocked, I say....

[Young Werther]

...And... it included a laser range finder which could have caused irreparable damage if it had been focused into her eyes!

Of course, the reports of "Gentle Ben" Gray Davis hurling his staff workers into a wall during work hours, and not providing a stunt double, is okay! (Sacrasm Alert Off)

[Victoria Delsoul]

Of course the LA Slimes still doesn't see fit to print any of the allegations about Gray Davis' ragaholic verbal and physical attacks on his staff, including shoving a 60 year old female secretary out of the room. No, it would be unfair to print such allegations against a (RAT) politician based on anonymous accusations.

Let's not forget the link.

[BunnySlippers]

CNN occasionally popping in on Arnold's Rally today. Lots and lots of people ... very upbeat!

[Scott from the Left Coast]

And this is not all!!!

My wife tells me that an Arnold poster she had in her college dorm room in the late 70's, fell off the wall and smacked her right in the chest! Will the groping never cease!

[Tempest]

So exactly how much verification do these whack jobs need in order for the slimes to decided that yes this is newsworthy?

I wonder if we could round up 5 women to call up the LA Times and start making baseless accussations toward Davis if the would deem that newsworthy enough to print? . . . </rhetorical>

[RonDog]

Since the New York Times is known as the "Old Gray Lady..."

...perhaps the Los Angeles Times should now be called:

"GRAY's Old Lady"

(I think that I first heard this suggested on the Hugh Hewitt radio show.)

[Founding Father]

Even if true, he's still behind clinton.

[Quix]

My letter to the LA SLIMES

got bounced back.

Is there a better or a list of viable email addresses available?

[Wait4Truth]

Good for the crowd! The LA Slimes needs to be condemned! My only fear in this recall is RAT voter fraud. No poll watchers are allowed inside the polling places. I wish it was midnight on Tuesday...my heart can't take this anymore! I'm going to go take a bath! LOL!

[Hugin]

No need, no use. There are real allegations about Davis assaulting and verbally abusing his staff going back to 1998. The Slimes refused to print them then. See link above.

[Publius6961]

Have you seen some of these women?
Arnold would have to be falling-down drunk.

Blind, even.

[Quix]

Yeah, but they are

GROPING

for excuses to not see themselves that way . . .

so . . . any lengths they can go to fuel

THEIR fantasies

any such lengths are probably seen as fair game in their eyes--especially unconsciously.

[Clara Lou]

Maybe they smell money, as in, a class action lawsuit for emotional duress, or something.
more likely they're hags in need of attention

[Terry Mross]

This is actually becoming very amusing. It appears the LA Times will continue to "come up" with more women until it sticks. And I'd be willing to admit none of these women actually exists. I wish some other news outlet would attempt to locate these "women".

[Diogenesis]

[Let's Roll]

Oh, yeah, what does the LAT say about grayout putting his secretary in the hospital?

[Let's Roll]

It's almost like these operatives are paid by piece work, so they are trying to get as many allegations and accusations out there before the deadline. I wonder if it is like radio/tv where you charge the sponsor for how much play his commercials get?

[snopercod]

Somebody is sporting the tag line "Republicans to democrats: Our groper can beat up your groper!"

My apologies to the FReeper who's name I can't recall.

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[JoeSchem]

Better to be groped by Arnold than robbed daily by Gray Davis.

You're unusual. Most conservative women would rather have their money taken than their bodies violated. Such prudery will have no place during the reign of the Gropemeister!

[Fred]

i do not care if Arnold murdered people on TV live ---- He is still the great gobernator..... I am sure all you Arnold supporters would agree with me

[Liz]

As another article summed up the situation: " Gray Davis and Cruz Bustamante couldn't grab your breasts even if they wanted to: Their hands are too full of Indian casino money and tripled car tax and giveaway driver's licenses for illegal aliens. The story here is that California is in crisis. And if it stays in the hands of its sleazy incompetent political establishment, the crisis will become terminal."

That's a pretty good summation, I'd say.

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[auboy]

If Rathner is 45, she was born in 1957 or 1958, depending on her birthday. That would make her around 21 in 1979.

OTOH, this was 24 years ago. Why did she wait until two days before the recall election to air her pain? Inquiring minds want to know.