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Arnold Wins Backing of Conservatives Eager for GOP Victory
CrossWalk ^ | Oct. 6, 2003 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 10/05/2003 10:00:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion

(CNSNews.com) - Republican gubernatorial candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger has created a rift among conservatives in California. While some are willing to accept the actor's liberal social views for a GOP victory, others fear he might damage the party's pro-family agenda.

As voters prepare to cast their ballots Tuesday in the Golden State's recall election, conservatives remain divided between Schwarzenegger, who has moderate to liberal social views, and state Sen. Tom McClintock, a staunch conservative Republican.

With the campaign winding down, however, some conservatives have come to grips with Schwarzenegger's views as long as he is able to defeat Democrat Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante.

"I came out of my meeting with [Schwarzenegger] very reassured that indeed, he will be a better conservative than my conservative friends think he will," GOP Assemblyman Ray Haynes told CNSNews.com. "And if he's not, I'll fight him."

Haynes likened Schwarzenegger to Pete Wilson, California's last Republican governor, who also frustrated conservatives at times for his views on social issues. But Haynes said Wilson was an ally compared to Democrat Gov. Gray Davis, who is one of the friendliest governors to homosexuals.

"Even if Schwarzenegger and Wilson are very similar on a lot of this stuff, Schwarzenegger is going be very good," Haynes said. "He told me to my face in those areas where the governor can actually affect the outcome, 'I will be with the pro-life community. I will be with the pro-gun community. I will be with the social conservatives.'"

Schwarzenegger's campaign website states that he opposes partial birth abortion and supports parental notification. Although he supports the Second Amendment, he is in favor of the assault weapons ban. And while he has praised equal rights for homosexuals, he opposes same-sex marriage.

But Schwarzenegger's critics have questioned those positions, noting the website also states: "I support the state's current family planning programs, and as governor, would make no changes to this policy." It also says: "I do believe that gay couples are entitled to full protection under the law and should not be discriminated against based on their relationship."

The political action committee Save California has called on Schwarzenegger to drop out of the race, citing poll figures that show McClintock beating Bustamante in a head-to-head contest. Randy Thomasson, the organization's treasurer, said he fears Schwarzenegger could strip the Republican Party of its pro-family values.

"Schwarzenegger is against Republican Party values and against family values," said Thomasson, who founded the Campaign for California Families. "The Republican establishment that has sold out to support him ought to have their heads examined."

In the weeks leading up the vote, Schwarzenegger has picked up key endorsements from the California Republican Party, former Republican gubernatorial candidate Bill Simon and Rep. Darrell Issa, who financed the recall drive.

McClintock, meanwhile, has the support of prominent conservatives who include Focus on the Family founder James Dobson and former presidential candidates Alan Keyes and Gary Bauer.

But McClintock has also had several conservatives, and in some cases friends like Haynes, join Schwarzenegger's campaign. Many endorsements include praise for the state legislator for the work he has done and the values he represents.

Chuck Muth, president of Citizen Outreach and former executive director of the American Conservative Union, said he's in Schwarzenegger's camp even though he's not enthused by all of the candidate's positions.

After all, Muth said, McClintock shares many of the same views as Simon, who lost to Davis last year. Muth doesn't want to see that happen again, especially when Republicans have the chance to put an ally in the governor's office for the 2004 presidential election.

"I'm not saying a strictly pro-life candidate can't win California," Muth said. "But with California being the way it is today, it doesn't hurt that he's more moderate or temperate on that issue than some other candidates."

Thomasson used last week's news of Schwarzenegger groping women to compare the actor to former President Bill Clinton. However, Muth said, "When you compare what Bill Clinton did in office while he was president to what Arnold did as a movie actor dating back 30 years, the two aren't even close to being the same."

Conservative radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt, who supports Schwarzenegger, said votes for McClintock only benefit Bustamante and California's liberal interests. He said that's one reason Republicans haven't wavered in their support for Schwarzenegger, even in times of trouble.

"I haven't seen a single Republican elected official change his or her mind about Arnold," Hewitt said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: chawarzenegger; conservativevote; haynes; hughhewitt; mcclintock; rayhaynes; recall; schwarzenegger
"But McClintock has also had several conservatives, and in some cases friends like Haynes, join Schwarzenegger's campaign.

Chuck Muth, president of Citizen Outreach and former executive director of the American Conservative Union, said he's in Schwarzenegger's camp"

1 posted on 10/05/2003 10:00:47 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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2 posted on 10/05/2003 10:01:11 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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4 posted on 10/05/2003 10:07:20 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: FairOpinion
Not this one. I don't need the money.
5 posted on 10/05/2003 10:11:21 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: FairOpinion
[While some are willing to accept the actor's liberal social views for a GOP victory, others fear he might damage the party's pro-family agenda.]

And so who might be more damaging to "the party's pro-family agenda"?

Dufus

Bustamove

Arnold

(I do not list anyone else because these are the only viable candidates at this time)

6 posted on 10/05/2003 10:11:48 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: FairOpinion
I hope that bowl of oatmeal tastes really good because that's what you get for your birthright.

Fair trade?

7 posted on 10/05/2003 10:14:03 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
And so who might be more damaging to "the party's pro-family agenda"?

Schwarzenegger.

The others and the dems are already not pro-family -- they don't have a pro-family agenda to damage.

Schwarzenegger just moves the Republicans to join them.

That is why a Schwarzenegger victory does not damage liberalism but strengthens it.

It damages the Republican party.

8 posted on 10/05/2003 10:17:05 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: FairOpinion
He's still looking good in the polls. Tomorrow, we'll hear that he enjoys murdering little old ladies and kicks puppies.
9 posted on 10/05/2003 10:22:58 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb
"Tomorrow, we'll hear that he enjoys murdering little old ladies and kicks puppies. "


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This reminded me of the cartoon the Dems ran that Bush pushed little old ladies in wheelchair off the cliff.
10 posted on 10/05/2003 10:33:31 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Arnold Wins Backing of Conservatives Eager for GOP Victory

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The GOP may win, but conservtism and mental maturity lose with this character.

11 posted on 10/05/2003 10:36:43 PM PDT by RLK
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To: cake_crumb
"Tomorrow, we'll hear that he enjoys murdering little old ladies and kicks puppies."

And then we'll come to FR to find a bunch of people excusing that behavior.
12 posted on 10/05/2003 10:43:16 PM PDT by Gil4
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To: cake_crumb
When are we going to hear from the news media that Gray Davis is an office batterer?
13 posted on 10/05/2003 10:46:44 PM PDT by My2Cents (Well...there you go again.)
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To: FairOpinion
Another Story for the NAtionsla scene could be titled:

Bush Wins Backing of Conservatives Eager for GOP Victory
14 posted on 10/05/2003 10:53:51 PM PDT by Kay Soze (Democrats are lifes losers- Its no wonder they need Govít money just to survive.)
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To: cake_crumb
No tomorrow we will hear

ALLEGATIONS that He's still looking good in the polls. Tomorrow, we'll hear that he enjoys murdering little old ladies and kicks puppies.

Weird how much credibiilty freepers give to the LA and NY Times.
15 posted on 10/05/2003 10:55:58 PM PDT by Kay Soze (Democrats are lifes losers- Its no wonder they need Govít money just to survive.)
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To: FairOpinion
"This reminded me of the cartoon the Dems ran that Bush pushed little old ladies in wheelchair off the cliff."

Geeeez, I missed that one. I'm glad I did.

16 posted on 10/05/2003 10:59:32 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: My2Cents
"When are we going to hear from the news media that Gray Davis is an office batterer?"

When the media finally tells us Bill Clinton was an office batterer too. In other words, never.

17 posted on 10/05/2003 11:00:47 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: FairOpinion
I must say, the "bimbo eruptions" never seem to stop but embolden ol' Clint--I mean Arnold. I guess that's why he hired Democrats as well as Republicans for his team. Oh wait, that also happened with Clinton; he hired Republicans and Democrats for his team. Well, Arnold says he will give a middle class tax cut. Not the only one? Oh yeah, that was said by Bubba. Well he certainly has taken all the conservative's agendas away. What? Arnold does that too? How about love for Kennedy Family? Ego? Drug use? Powertrips?

Oh! That's why they call them New Democrats, I mean New Republicans, I mean Moderates. I mean Centrists. I mean New Tone Politicians. I mean Compassionate Conservatives. No? Yes?

If Arnold wins expect a new Reality TV show surrounding his life. LA Times shock you? You haven't seen anything yet! But then again, the Clinton years were so entertaining.

At least Davis will go. On second thought, at least I don't live in CA.
18 posted on 10/05/2003 11:01:49 PM PDT by sully777 (Same song next verse same as the first)
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To: FairOpinion
I didn't think there were enough conservatives left in Callyfornia to have a "rift".
19 posted on 10/05/2003 11:04:59 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I DONATED! HAVE YOU? DONATE NOW OR I'LL HAVE YOU TAKEN OFF THE DO NOT CALL LIST)
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To: Kay Soze
"Weird how much credibiilty freepers give to the LA and NY Times."

IMO, FReepers are aware of how many people - even some relatively normal ones - swallow every lie the LA and NY Times feeds them. And the Washington Post too.

I seemed to be the only one who thought it was laughable and memorable when Combover stood before the Seucurity Council reading from NY Times op/eds to "prove" Iraq wsn't in violation of UN resolutions.

20 posted on 10/05/2003 11:05:21 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: FairOpinion
Who is this Tom guy? Does anyone care? NO.
21 posted on 10/06/2003 2:58:49 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
Who is this Tom guy? Does anyone care? NO.

A bunch of y'all have been whining for him to get out of the race for the last month, so apparently people do care.

22 posted on 10/06/2003 8:42:48 AM PDT by jmc813 (Arnold needs to drop out now for the good of the party.)
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To: FairOpinion
Conservatives backing Arnold is not that much different from sheep backing wolves.

In fact, it's very much like sheep...
23 posted on 10/06/2003 10:43:46 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: FairOpinion
See also:

'We Have to Destroy California to Save It': Arnold Opposes AND Supports Illegal Immigration

24 posted on 10/06/2003 11:29:04 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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