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History of Misinformation tarnishes Clark's Military Record
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | October 6, 2003 | Thomas H. Lipscomb

Posted on 10/06/2003 6:37:06 AM PDT by Clodia Pulcher

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To: Clodia Pulcher
I sure hope the military doesn't close ranks, and speaks up with the truth. If they don't they are @#$%^&'s.
21 posted on 10/06/2003 7:28:08 AM PDT by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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To: Clodia Pulcher
bumpit again...
22 posted on 10/06/2003 7:46:35 AM PDT by dirtboy (CongressmanBillyBob/John Armor for Congress - you can't separate them, so send 'em both to D.C.)
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To: Howlin
How Shelton continued to serve under Clinton is beyond me.
23 posted on 10/06/2003 7:57:03 AM PDT by MamaLucci ( Clinton met with Monica more than he did his CIA director.)
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To: dirtboy; Howlin
"Wes Clark's candidacy may seriously backfire on the DLC wing. As they keep trying to imply that Bush lied about Saddam's WMDs, now Clark brings the clearly documented lies of the Kosovo campaign back into the news..."

The Democrats keep acting as though they still have full control over all national news (as in, that they could keep Clark's Kosovo/Waco dirt buried while creating a new image for him).

...And they keep losing elections, so who am I to set them straight?!

24 posted on 10/06/2003 8:05:47 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: dirtboy
I will hazard a guess as to how a general officer so widely mistrusted by his peers could advance to so high a station as General 'Wes' Clark: Waco. The commander of First Cav did as he was told, via back channels, by the then C-in-C.

That earned him a role as "favorite" in the Clinton administration. Clark, perhaps, even knew a little more than he "should". Thus, the rapid escalation to SACEUR.

And while NATO commander in Brussels, Clark got another request from his then C-in-C: "Do me a favor and promote this Kosovo thingie, Wes. I've got some heat to deal with over here in the States -- an impeachment, a little corruption, maybe some treason and a even a rape charge, y'know. Lemme tell ya, I could stand a media distraction. Why doncha ratchet up some of those atrocity charges -- CNN, those folks, they'll lap it up -- and see if we can't get ourselves into a little war over there. You can run the deal, Wes...get all the glory, that's what you guys want, isn't it?"

So, can it be any wonder that his colleagues hate his guts? I sure do. And I don't even know him...

Clark is one puppet who is truly a martinet...

25 posted on 10/06/2003 8:10:02 AM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: MamaLucci
How Shelton continued to serve under Clinton is beyond me.

He may have been doing this country a service by trying to minimize the impact of Clinton on the military.

26 posted on 10/06/2003 8:11:33 AM PDT by dirtboy (CongressmanBillyBob/John Armor for Congress - you can't separate them, so send 'em both to D.C.)
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To: MamaLucci
"How Shelton continued to serve under Clinton is beyond me."

High-ranking generals are often confronted with a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation when dealing with a corrupt President.

For example, Dereliction of Duty, by H.R. McMaster, explores the relationship between the JCS and the Johnson administration at the outset of the Viet Nam war.

McMaster finds that the generals were in the position of a.) resigning, so as to register their distaste for the orders they were being asked to carry out, and thus have no influence over events or b.) hanging in there and trying to influence events as best they could.

I tried putting myself in their place and concluded there was no good answer.

27 posted on 10/06/2003 8:26:41 AM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: okie01
The air war over Kosovo and the remnants of Yugoslavia took place March-June 1999, after the end of the "trial" in the Senate, so Clinton didn't have to worry about being removed from office...but was concerned with having his "legacy" be something more than just Monica.

I do agree with the basic premiss that Clark got where he did by his willingness to carry water for the Clintons whenever called upon.

28 posted on 10/06/2003 8:34:40 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: *balkans
bttt
29 posted on 10/06/2003 8:48:30 AM PDT by DTA
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To: okie01; dirtboy
Very good points.
30 posted on 10/06/2003 8:48:33 AM PDT by MamaLucci ( Clinton met with Monica more than he did his CIA director.)
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To: dirtboy
Yet Wes Clark has been kind enough to raise $3.5 million that would have most likely gone to one of the other nine dwarves.
31 posted on 10/06/2003 9:31:40 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Coop
Interesting article here on the Presidential Candidate CNN Built...

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/10/06/Worldandnation/The_presidential_cand.shtml
32 posted on 10/06/2003 9:44:48 AM PDT by Clodia Pulcher (THIS IS A LOT BIGGER STORY THAN IT IS BEING PLAYED)
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To: dirtboy
Thanks for pinging me to this article. Somehow, I just can't imagine Wesley Clark getting the Dem nominiation, but should that happen, we're going to have to fight with everything that's in us to try to keep him from the presidency. The man is really creepy.

Analyzing the Dem race strictly on campaigning skills, the favorite to win the nomination has to be Howard Dean. He's run a brilliant campaign so far, raised huge amounts of money, and seems to have enough energy and determination to sustain him for the long haul to come. I find it difficult to believe he will just roll over for Clark and his Clintonian backers. In every possible way that counts, Clark is an empty suit. Of course, I have never understood Democrats, so my analysis could most definitely be flawed.

33 posted on 10/06/2003 10:55:13 AM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places
ping
34 posted on 11/01/2003 8:49:23 AM PST by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
Not sure why the ping to this old thread, but I don't have any particular interest in Clark, or anyone with a D after their name, for that matter.

I'll snoop around & see if I can find what you probably really wanted to ping me to.
35 posted on 11/01/2003 6:16:50 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (This tagline has been used before, so I won't repeat it.)
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places
Sorry. It is an older piece, but I thought there was new info on Clark that you might like to see. And no, I never suspected you of liking the D's!
36 posted on 11/01/2003 8:39:16 PM PST by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
Musta been another thread, cause there was nothing newer than Oct 6 here.

>>And no, I never suspected you of liking the D's!

Well I'm glad we have that settled (on the other hand, I saw Spud-Man on Meet the Depressed today doing an interview with with Zel Miller. Can't say I dislike the Dem Senator Miller, he's an upstanding guy).
37 posted on 11/02/2003 7:21:40 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (This tagline has been used before, so I won't repeat it.)
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places
I guess Zell is the exception that proves the rule, then, eh? I think I'm going to get his book. He is not only a very interesting writer, he's also a man of high character, IMO.
38 posted on 11/02/2003 9:45:18 PM PST by WaterDragon
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