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New anti-Arnold commercial

Posted on 10/06/2003 9:49:02 AM PDT by Hildy

Just saw the new anti-Arnold commercial. It goes something like this: Close-ups of women against a white backdrop.
Voice over: If you have a wife, a mother, a sister, if you know a woman from work then...
YOU CAN'T VOTE FOR ARNOLD SCHWARTZENEGGER.
Blah blah blah...and then they have a quote from an interview in some entertainment magazine about sticking a woman's head down a toilet. But with no explanation that it was from a movie. It's outrageous and despicable. How low will these people go.


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1 posted on 10/06/2003 9:49:02 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
How low will these people go.

Lower than even this, I'd bet.

2 posted on 10/06/2003 9:50:57 AM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................all my pings are belong to ......YOU.....................)
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To: Hildy
Hmmm. Did some of the anti-Arnie crowd here produce it?
3 posted on 10/06/2003 9:51:34 AM PDT by per loin
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To: Hildy
The later and lower they go, the more people will vote for Arnold in defiance of the smear. After he's elected he can thank them for the free advertising.
4 posted on 10/06/2003 9:51:45 AM PDT by Vladivostok
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To: Hildy
Classic davis slimefest, from what I can hear.

Why'd CA vote for him again?
5 posted on 10/06/2003 9:52:24 AM PDT by Monty22
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6 posted on 10/06/2003 9:52:47 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: EggsAckley
Was it a McClintock ad?
7 posted on 10/06/2003 9:53:01 AM PDT by 2iron
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To: Hildy
Can we get a pool going for how many more anonymous accusers will surface today?

I dibs seven, just a WAG, but it's my WAG.

I'm amazed that they haven't been able to find even one woman he's actually had sex with. He must be the most faithful husband in Hollywood. Who'da thunk it.
8 posted on 10/06/2003 9:55:21 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Monty22
Because Simon ran a bad campaign and the GOP was lazy.
9 posted on 10/06/2003 9:55:34 AM PDT by Hildy (SUCKER: Short-sighted Uncompromising Conservative Kool-Aid-drinking Elitist Republican.)
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To: Hildy
If Schwarzenegger really wanted to screw these people over, he'd throw his support behind McClintock because there isn't enough time left to smear McClintock, too.
10 posted on 10/06/2003 9:56:58 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: nina0113
I'm amazed that they haven't been able to find even one woman he's actually had sex with

Good point. I hadn't thought of that. Who knows, maybe THAT'S what's next. Urrgh.

11 posted on 10/06/2003 9:57:16 AM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................all my pings are belong to ......YOU.....................)
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To: Question_Assumptions
Dream on.
12 posted on 10/06/2003 9:57:43 AM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................all my pings are belong to ......YOU.....................)
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To: Hildy
If you have a wife, a mother, a sister, if you know a woman from work then...YOU CAN'T VOTE FOR ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER.

This just in: a recent poll has shown that 99.9999% of Americans have had mothers. [Hillary was spawned directly from the fountainhead of Satan]

13 posted on 10/06/2003 9:59:13 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Start the bus, Gray)
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To: 2iron
Was it a McClintock ad?

Oh, please. Most of the venom on this site has been directed at McClintock, not by him.

14 posted on 10/06/2003 9:59:30 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: per loin
Hmmm. Did some of the anti-Arnie crowd here produce it?

We don't sink to your level. If we wanted to produce an anti-RINOLD commercial it'll be based on facts and the issues and not about whether he groped some teeny girls or made pro-Nazi comments or something.

15 posted on 10/06/2003 10:01:18 AM PDT by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: Question_Assumptions
Yea, that's a great idea. In CONSERVATIVE FANTASYLAND.
16 posted on 10/06/2003 10:02:49 AM PDT by Hildy (SUCKER: Short-sighted Uncompromising Conservative Kool-Aid-drinking Elitist Republican.)
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To: Hildy
Life imitates art?

This is getting to be like that scene in the first Terminator movie where Arnold goes to the police station and they throw everything they have at him but he just keeps coming.
17 posted on 10/06/2003 10:02:59 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Coop
It's funny how the RINOLD sheeple use the Stalinesque tactic - accuse the other party or person of the same stuff that you yourself is doing.
18 posted on 10/06/2003 10:03:12 AM PDT by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: Chi-townChief
I hope it ends as well.
19 posted on 10/06/2003 10:03:24 AM PDT by Hildy (SUCKER: Short-sighted Uncompromising Conservative Kool-Aid-drinking Elitist Republican.)
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To: Hildy
Isn't there a moderate or liberal "FreeRepublic" site that you can post on and share the joys of doing yeoman's work for elitist sell-out Republicans?
20 posted on 10/06/2003 10:04:35 AM PDT by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: Hildy
The only scandal that will be able to stop Arnold is a picture of him in bed with a dead woman or a live boy.
21 posted on 10/06/2003 10:13:55 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: Hildy
The only scandal that will be able to stop Arnold is a picture of him in bed with a dead woman or a live boy.
22 posted on 10/06/2003 10:14:09 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: Hildy
The funny thing is, I heard on the radio news today a woman who had some encounter with Arnold 20 YEARS AGO said "if you're a woman and you accuse someone powerful then you're (automatically called) a slut, a liar, or you're trying to gain by it"....This from someone who is just now bringing up something from two decades ago.

Just Dang

23 posted on 10/06/2003 10:14:09 AM PDT by BSunday
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To: Hildy
Blah blah blah...and then they have a quote from an interview in some entertainment magazine about sticking a woman's head down a toilet. But with no explanation that it was from a movie. It's outrageous and despicable. How low will these people go.

About third grade level.
These people really know what their audience is...

The rest of us can just snicker

24 posted on 10/06/2003 10:16:32 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: ServesURight
We don't sink to your level. If we wanted to produce an anti-RINOLD commercial it'll be based on facts and the issues and not about whether he groped some teeny girls or made pro-Nazi comments or something.

Hmmm. Does that "we" include the candidate who is calling on Arnold to quit if the butt patting stories are true? I think his name was McClintock, or sumpin like that.

25 posted on 10/06/2003 10:17:46 AM PDT by per loin
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Women are much safer with Clinton & Kennedy...
26 posted on 10/06/2003 10:22:55 AM PDT by talleyman (Caviar emptor (a warning from the sturgeon general))
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To: Hildy
That's a MoveOn ad, they sent out this "emergency" fund raising letter below last weekend, the funniest part about this is that this organization was originally formed with the mission of convincing people that harrassment and abuse of woman by Clinton wasnt a big deal, now they have done a 180...

Dear MoveOn member,

24 hours ago, we launched an emergency ad campaign to tell California voters the recent revelations about Arnold Schwarzenegger's life and character. As of 2pm, more than 12,000 people have contributed and enabled us to reach our goal of $500,000. The ad will begin playing throughout California on Sunday. It's appearing on at least 10 national news programs today. Incredible.

Yesterday, there were revelations about Arnold Schwarzenegger's physical harassment of women -- charges which he has refused to deny. Today he is struggling to explain statements he has made throughout his life regarding Adolf Hitler and another Nazi war criminal.

As the Schwarzenegger campaign reels, it's clear that the outcome of this election is up in the air. Today, we're asking you -- no matter what state you live in -- to do something this weekend to ensure that Schwarzenegger is defeated. We're asking you to participate in MoveOn phone banking to California to make sure that voters know the truth. Every Californian deserves to know the truth about this man who will be elected unless they vote No Recall on Tuesday. To sign up to help, click here:

http://moveon.org/pac/lapb/

Our online phone banking system is easy to use, and if you have free weekend minutes on your cell phone, you'll be able to make the calls for free. If thousands of MoveOn members call tens of thousands of California voters this weekend, that we could make the difference in this race.

Click here to sign up to phone bank and we'll email you back with simple instructions and phone numbers of voters to call:

http://moveon.org/pac/lapb/

With only a few days to go, it's critical we get this stunning new information into as many hands as possible. If you've read what's come out about Arnold Schwarzenegger's record and character, you'll want to get on the phone and talk to California voters about this. Please take a look at these news articles from yesterday and today:

LA Times: Women Say Schwarzenegger Groped, Humiliated Them

NY Times: Schwarzenegger Admired Hitler, Book Proposal Says

Washington Post: Effect of Allegations Is Unpredictable; Race's Focus Shifts

The recall campaign has been so short, and Schwarzenegger has received so little scrutiny from media that California is in danger of electing this man without knowing this very important and scary information about his record and character. California is the most populous state and it is the fifth biggest economy in the world. We can't let California be hijacked in this bizarre election by a man like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Together, we have the power to defeat the recall by making these calls this weekend. Please sign up right now to make calls today, Saturday or Sunday:

http://moveon.org/pac/lapb/

Sincerely,

-- Carrie, Eli, James, Joan, Noah, Peter, Wes, and Zack
The MoveOn Team
October 3, 20003

PS: Our TV ad has appeared or will appear on Good Morning America, CNN American Morning, CNN Headline News, CNN News Live Today, MSNBC News Live, NBC Nightly News, ABC World News Tonight, CBS Evening News, Crossfire and Hardball. You can watch the ad here:

http://moveonpac.org/

Exceprt from today's front page New York Times article:
http://nytimes.com/2003/10/03/national/03BOOK.html?hp

Schwarzenegger Admired Hitler, Book Proposal Says
By ADAM NAGOURNEY and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

A film producer who chronicled Arnold Schwarzenegger's rise to fame as a champion bodybuilder in the 1970's circulated a book proposal six years ago that quoted the young Mr. Schwarzenegger expressing admiration for Adolf Hitler.

The book proposal by the producer, George Butler, included what were presented as verbatim excerpts from interviews with Mr. Schwarzenegger in the filming of the documentary "Pumping Iron." In a part of the interview not used in the film, Mr. Schwarzenegger was asked to name his heroes — "who do you admire most."

"It depends for what," Mr. Schwarzenegger said, according to the transcript in the book proposal. "I admired Hitler, for instance, because he came from being a little man with almost no formal education up to power. And I admire him for being such a good public speaker."

In addition to the transcript, Mr. Butler wrote in his book proposal that in the 1970's, he considered Mr. Schwarzenegger a "flagrant, outspoken admirer of Hitler." In the proposal, Mr. Butler also said he had seen Mr. Schwarzenegger playing "Nazi marching songs from long-playing records in his collection at home" and said that the actor "frequently clicked his heels and pretended to be an S.S. officer."
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Arnold quoted in Slate/MSNBC:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2086742/

Speaking at his 1988 wedding on controversial former-Nazi and war criminal Kurt Waldheim:

"My friends don't want me to mention Kurt's name, because of all the recent Nazi stuff and the U.N. controversy, but I love him and Maria does too, and so thank you, Kurt."
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Excerpts from yesterday's LA Times article:
(click here for the full story)

Women Say Schwarzenegger Groped, Humiliated Them
By Gary Cohn, Carla Hall and Robert W. Welkos, Times Staff Writers

"Did he rape me? No," said one woman, who described a 1980 encounter in which she said Schwarzenegger touched her breast. "Did he humiliate me? You bet he did."...

In interviews with The Times, three of the women described their surprise and discomfort when Schwarzenegger grabbed their breasts. A fourth said he reached under her skirt and gripped her buttocks. A fifth woman said Schwarzenegger groped her and tried to remove her bathing suit in a hotel elevator. A sixth said Schwarzenegger pulled her onto his lap and asked whether a certain sexual act had ever been performed on her....

One of the women in the 2001 Premiere article was British television host Anna Richardson, who accused Schwarzenegger of touching her breast. In an interview with The Times, she reiterated that account... "He kept looking at my breasts, kept asking if I worked out," she said. "I went to shake his hand and he grabbed me onto his knee and he said, 'Before you go, I want to know if your breasts are real.'" She said she looked around for help from other people in the room, but nobody came to her assistance. At that point, "he circled my left nipple with his finger and he said, 'Yes, they are real.'" She said he then let her go....


The secretary, then in her 30s, said she sat on a couch opposite Schwarzenegger while the actor and her supervisor talked. When the conversation ended, the secretary said she approached Schwarzenegger to shake his hand and say goodbye. He remained seated, she said, and he slipped his left hand under her skirt and grabbed her right buttock. "He just held on. He held on and said, 'You have a very nice ass.' He said, 'I'd love to work you out.'"....

Another woman, now a wife and mother in her 30s, said she also fell in Schwarzenegger's "sight lines" while working as a crew member on 'Terminator 2' in Fontana. "I was walking on the set and Arnold called out, 'Come here, you sexy devil,' and reached out and pulled me on to his lap," the woman recalled. She said he then whispered in her ear: "Have you ever had a man slide his tongue in your [anus]?" "I didn't know how to react," the woman said. "It was bizarre. What he said was so specifically sexual, it was bizarre..." After the incident, she said, she continued on her way. "I didn't fall apart," she said, but added: "It's embarrassing and degrading when you're doing a job."

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Excerpt from the July 2003 Entertainment Weekly magazine story (not available on the web):

But nothing in T3 bears Schwarzenegger's creative stamp more than his epic tussle with the Terminatrix, a battle that begins in a bathroom. The sequence was made longer and more elaborate thanks to the actor's largess--and his singular imagination.

"As we were rehearsing, I saw this toilet bowl," says Schwarzenegger, an impish smile crossing his face. "How many times do you get away with this--to take a woman, grab her upside down, and bury her face in a toilet bowl? I wanted to have something floating in there," he adds. Apparently, he was vetoed. "They thought it was my typical Schwarzenegger overboard," he says. "The thing is, you can do it, because in the end, I didn't do it to a woman--she's a machine! We could get away with it without being crucified by who-knows-what group." (Note to California's Democratic strategists: The soccer-mom set is now yours for the taking!)
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Excerpt from the March 2001 Premiere Magazine story on Arnold Schwarzenegger
"Arnold the Barbarian"
By John Connolly

Once, he was a box office terminator. But now that Arnold Schwarzenegger has lost some of his muscle in Hollywood, stories of his boorish behavior can no longer be routinely erased. Then again, he'd make a helluva politician. The tabloid press got a nice Christmas present late last year when Arnold Schwarzenegger tore through a day of publicity work in London, promoting his latest film, The 6th Day, which had just opened there. In less than 24 hours, the star was said to have attempted to, as high school boys used to say, cop a little feel from three different female talk-show hosts. The level of consternation expressed by those who received this hands-on treatment from the hulking, Austrian-born international superstar ranged from none whatsoever (Denise Van Outen of The Big Breakfast invites her guests to lie on a bed with her and, hence, probably has a rather elastic definition of what constitutes inappropriate behavior) to irked (on tape, Celebrity interviewer Melanie Sykes looks a little thrown off after Arnold gives her a very definite squeeze on the rib cage, directly under her right breast) to, finally, righteously indignant. Anna Richardson of Big Screen claims that after the cameras stopped rolling for her interview segment, Schwarzenegger, apparently attempting to ascertain whether Richardson's breasts were real, tweaked her nipple and then laughed at her objections. "I left the room quite shaken," she says. "What was more upsetting was that his people rushed to protect him and scapegoated me, and not one person came to apologize afterward."

No apologies, indeed: A subsequent statement from Schwarzenegger attorney Martin Singer characterized Richardson as someone trying to get her "15 minutes of fame." After all, why else would she create such an "outrageous fabrication" (Singer's phrase) against a married man—Schwarzenegger has been wed to NBC's Maria Shriver since 1986—a father of four, someone who ceaselessly espouses family values in the press? On the other hand, the stills of Schwarzenegger grinning as he pats Van Outen's hip or of his give-me-some-sugar-baby expression as he tries to draw Sykes close to him are a little unsettling. Was Arnold jet-lagged? Going through a midlife crisis?

"You don't get it," says a producer who's worked with Schwarzenegger. "That's the way Arnold always behaves. For some reason, [this time] the studio or the publicists couldn't put enough pressure on the women to kill the story." Terminating bad press was once relatively easy for Schwarzenegger, who for much of the '80s and a good part of the '90s was a veritable money-making machine for the studios. And while some of his most recent films have enjoyed less-than-stellar box office performances, he is still a very huge star and one of the highest-paid actors in the world: He reportedly received $25 million for his work in the 1999 disappointment End of Days. Accordingly, Schwarzenegger films are always big-budget affairs; as such, they provide lots of jobs to lots of people and generate lots of money to lots of studio suits and other peripheral players. Arnold is not just a rich movie star; he's the straw that stirs the drinks. The sort of person, in other words, who tends to get indulged. A lot."

"The second I walked into the room," Anna Richardson says, several weeks after the incident, "he was like a dog in heat." Other stories about Schwarzenegger tend to fit her simile. During the production of the 1991 mega-blockbuster Terminator 2: Judgment Day, a producer on that film recalls Arnold's emerging from his trailer one day and noticing a fortyish female crew member, who was wearing a silk blouse. Arnold went up to the woman, put his hands inside her blouse, and proceeded to pull her breasts out of her bra. Another observer says, "I couldn't believe what I was seeing. This woman's nipples were exposed, and here's Arnold and a few of his clones laughing. I went after the woman, who had run to the shelter of a nearby trailer. She was hysterical but refused to press charges for fear of losing her job. It was disgusting."

The full Premiere article is reprinted on the web here:
http://www.slumdance.com/blogs/brian_flemming/archives/000300.html
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Reuters story citing Schwarzenegger's books:

http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=3394868
27 posted on 10/06/2003 10:24:46 AM PDT by SirFishalot
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To: Hildy
This is funny ~ these were the same women who put on the kneepads for Clinton when he was accused of rape, indecent exposure, sexual harrassment, cigar abuse and serial fondling. They've completely given up their right to be taken seriously on this subject, and everybody knows that but them.

The only people who have any serious place taking issue with Arnie's lurid youth are serious conservatives who condemned Clinton for similar shenanigans.

28 posted on 10/06/2003 10:25:52 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Hildy
A lack of character doesnt disqualify democrats from office
why should it Arnold..?
29 posted on 10/06/2003 10:27:29 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: ServesURight; Hildy; onyx; Robert_Paulson2; BibChr; EggsAckley; FairOpinion; nopardons; ...
To Hildy: Isn't there a moderate or liberal "FreeRepublic" site that you can post on and share the joys of doing yeoman's work for elitist sell-out Republicans?

We have been getting this posted to Arnold supporters over the last few days -- guess that means we don't have a right to our own opinions on here but are supposed to march in lockstep fashion and vote for who we are told to vote! Doesn't work that way and frankly I am resenting more and more these comments!

Thanks for telling us how we are not wanted on this site -- we will certainly keep that in mind!

30 posted on 10/06/2003 11:02:29 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Vote for Arnold -- Republican by Choice!)
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To: Question_Assumptions
If Schwarzenegger really wanted to screw these people over, he'd throw his support behind McClintock because there isn't enough time left to smear McClintock, too.

Maybe not, but there are 2.1 million absentee ballots already received that cannot change their minds.

31 posted on 10/06/2003 11:35:53 AM PDT by hotpotato
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To: Hildy
Frankly, it sounds like the TomBots.
32 posted on 10/06/2003 11:36:54 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Arnold for Governator! Help Bring California Back!)
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To: Hildy
If I lived in California, I would vote for Arnold. Just because of this.
33 posted on 10/06/2003 11:37:52 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Vladivostok
I hope you are right.
34 posted on 10/06/2003 11:38:15 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: nina0113
Oh! I hadn't even thought of that! I guess Arnold knows what the mean of sec "is."
35 posted on 10/06/2003 11:39:15 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: 2iron; BlackElk; TheAngryClam; churchillbuff; ninenot; Roscoe; Spiff; Reagan Man; Gophack; ...
Was it a McClintock ad?

Wow, you Groupies are so reactionary to attack anyone that dares question your Leader that you try to blame McClintock for the traction the Left is getting on you guys lately in the polls (you know, the only thing you guys care about)...

If you think YOU are angry, you have no idea how angry we Conservatives are at the massive Selling Out of our values and our state's economy.

This doesn't end on Oct 7th if McClintock doesn't win, the "I Told You So's" just begin, and no "Conservative" will be safe.


36 posted on 10/06/2003 11:40:12 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (That's pre-election bogus, Arnold Schwarzenegger.)
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To: Question_Assumptions
If McClintock was a stand up guy, he'd do what he said and drop out.

And if he was a DECENT man, he would have spoken out for Arnold regardless of whether he wanted to win or not.

He helped Davis and the LA Times continue the smear.

37 posted on 10/06/2003 11:40:34 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: EggsAckley; nina0113
If they do find "somebody" who has had sex with Arnold it won't be a woman.........LOL.

Central Casting, can you pick up the white phone????
38 posted on 10/06/2003 11:41:29 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Question_Assumptions
If Schwarzenegger really wanted to screw these people over, he'd throw his support behind McClintock because there isn't enough time left to smear McClintock, too.

Y'all just don't get it, do you? California is not going to elect McClintock, even if Arnold has a heart attack today.

California will not elect a pro-life Republican.

Not the California of 2003.

1967. Yes.

2003. No.

It's difficult to grasp. I know.

But there it is.

39 posted on 10/06/2003 11:43:07 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: ServesURight
Isn't there a moderate or liberal "FreeRepublic" site that you can post on and share the joys of doing yeoman's work for elitist sell-out Republicans?

Isn't it your man who said he wouldn't be a "spoiler?"

40 posted on 10/06/2003 11:43:57 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
No interest in Kalifornicate's masochistic convulsions. Please remove me from the ping list.
41 posted on 10/06/2003 11:44:46 AM PDT by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: PhiKapMom
Thanks for telling us how we are not wanted on this site -- we will certainly keep that in mind!

I've seen that over and over; I wonder how Jim Robinson feels about this self-appointed bunch trying to run conservatives off this forum.

42 posted on 10/06/2003 11:46:17 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
All this is just a preview of what bottomless depths they will go to in the coming presidential race.
43 posted on 10/06/2003 11:46:47 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Howlin
I thought McClintock was a decent guy. I have since changed my mind. Staying in the race makes him look like an idiot, especially after he said he wouldn't be a "spoiler".
44 posted on 10/06/2003 11:47:53 AM PDT by wjcsux
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
you have no idea how angry we Conservatives are at the massive Selling Out of our values and our state's economy.

Give it a rest.

You don't hold the patent on "values" so stop acting like you do.

The other people in your state have a right to voice THEIR OPINIONS and VIEWS, whether they agree with you or not.

That doesn't make then un-American or un-conservative for that matter.

45 posted on 10/06/2003 11:48:50 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Carolinamom
You are telling the truth!

And I think it's safe for us to go ahead and make a list of who on this site will be giving them a lot of help.
46 posted on 10/06/2003 11:50:00 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: wjcsux
I've only been reading these threads for the last three or four days. I don't see how you all have stood it.
47 posted on 10/06/2003 11:50:42 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
You don't hold the patent on "values" so stop acting like you do.

Guilty Conscience much? Who said I was talking to you?

In fact, by your behavior in rationalizing for Clinton part deux, I'd say we hold the "character" and "principle" mantel all by our lonesome selves, thank you very much. (And I thought opposing (R)nold's policies made us da bomb)

The other people in your state have a right to voice

Yeah yeah, nice strawman, I'm "oppressing" them. Who said they didn't? Claims of "Victimhood" from "Conservatives" is very very weak and pathetic trait to have.

Then again, you are the one feeling the need to rationalize that you are a Conservative when no one claimed "Howlin" wasn't.

48 posted on 10/06/2003 11:59:30 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (That's pre-election bogus, Arnold Schwarzenegger.)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Who said you were opressing them.

I just said they have a right to their opinions. And if they win, you should join them in trying to get your state under control.

Somehow, I think you'll be a bigger problem than Davis is.
49 posted on 10/06/2003 12:01:07 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Hildy
You hope Arnold's head is crushed in a huge hydraulic press? I'd settle for him losing the election, and Tom McClintock being elected.
50 posted on 10/06/2003 12:03:21 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR ((R)nold's like a chrome plated Yugo - all show and no go! McClintock for Governor of California!)
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