FRNCC - "Diversity, Drugs, and a Racist Bake Sale..." By Jonathan David Morris

Free Republic Network ^ | 10-6-03 | Jonathan David Morris

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[MrLeRoy]

Drug abuse can adversely affect a family, don't get me wrong, but it's going to affect a family regardless of whether drugs are illegal. Same goes for fast food and alcohol, and gambling, and all-around bad attitudes. People who make poor decisions aren't criminals. They're people. In a free society, people ought to be free to screw things up and live with the consequences. It's the only way they're ever going to learn. But when we try to solve addictions by eliminating narcotics, we only create a new set of problems that affect a larger number of people on the whole.

Or look at it this way: Used car salesmen don't go around shooting each other. Drug dealers do.

This guy makes a dangerous amount of sense.

[FreedomPoster]

If the drug warriors get ahold of this, you'd better be wearing your Nomex coveralls.

[jmc813]

WOD Ping

[jmc813]

What is this author's FReeper name?

[BSunday]

Diversity - the Universal Racism

[StriperSniper]

Bump for later.

[dcwusmc]

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[robertpaulsen]

"This guy makes a dangerous amount of sense."

Well, when you make baseless, theoretical statements like, "In a free society, people ought to be free to screw things up and live with the consequences", of course.

Can you point to where this happens today in our society?

[MrLeRoy]

Not offhand. Does that somehow invalidate his statement?

[Clock King]

It happens anyway. How many people do you think have used illegal drugs? 1%? 5%? 10%? It's a damn lot I tell you, and the VAST majority are never caught. Why do you think that when the LA police made 20 TON cocaine bust a few years ago, the street price of coke didn't drop a penny?! The demand is too great and the supply is too large. People already do screw up their lives with drugs, and then "recover." Seems to be far to damn popular now days to be "in recovery".

[robertpaulsen]

"How many people do you think have used illegal drugs?"

The largest is marijuana. Here's the chart:

The only users I'm concerned about are the habitual users (past 30 days), and that's been flat for 15 years at 5%, and down significantly since 1979.

One more for comparison, cocaine, the #2 illegal drug:

Habitual users (past 30 days) is 0.7%, down from 3.0% in 1985. Hallucinogens at #3 add another 0.6%. These are not big numbers.

But that's not my point. My point is that drug users do not "suffer the consequences" today, nor will they if drugs are legalized. Drug users cost me money for everything from their hospitalization costs to court-appointed rehab. From stealing to feed a habit, to lost productivity and accidents on the job.

We live in a cradle-to-grave nanny state. Legalization would just add to the existing burden.

Now, if we first get rid of the nanny state today, then the author might have a point when saying that drug users would "suffer the consequences". But we haven't and he can't.

[Maelstrom]

Still missing the absolutely necessary parallel wherein the exact same bake sale for the exact same reasons with very similar prices was allowed in a protest against "The Man".

It was a California someone have the link?

[Bob J]

"Read JDM". He has a website at www.readjdm.com.

[Bob J]

I'm just the editor! Personally, I swing both ways on the WOD, I'm not advocating a position here. JDM wrote a good article so we posted it the Free Republic Network website! If someone submits a good counter argument, I'll post that also.

[MrLeRoy]

Drug users cost me money for everything from their hospitalization

So do overeaters---going after them next?

[twittle]

Drug users cost me money for everything

I would argue that drug users SAVE you money since they tend to die sooner and don't burden the country with medicare, social security, etc. in their old age.