California Recall Live Thread

[Sabertooth]

Do it California. Post here.

[Howlin]

Sarge Shriver headed the Peace Corps for JFK, but the do run the Special Olympics.

Sarge Shriver is the "bag man" for the entire Kennedy clan.

[doug from upland]

Best balloon drop and confetti shower I've seen since the Wellstone memorial.
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Way to go. That's one of the best comments on the thread.

[ApesForEvolution]

For anyone that wants to watch online...

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

[RonDog]

:o)

Now, if we can just flush out that last little bit of "red" sewage still stuck in that area near San Francisco...

[GulliverSwift]

Didn't know that. Too bad her elected relatives don't take her advice on abortion.

[GOPrincess]

And Eunice has put her ideas about the value of life into action, i.e., the Special Olympics. She was very affected by her older sister Rosemary's mental disability.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Are you saying Peggy Noonan is pissed at the Support Free Republic posts?

[jwalsh07]

Did you see the anti "illegal" exit polling? Couple that with what's going on in Arizona and there's a movement afoot. My money says that with the lecetion right around the corner, the fellows and gals in the capital are going to sit up and take notice.

[Tamzee]

Pics coming in... and Mrs. Ex-Gov needs more tissues!

[ElCapitanAmerica]

Democratic Underground Death Watch http://democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=491746&mesg_id=491746

prolesunited  (1000+ posts)   
Wed Oct-08-03 12:08 AM
Original message

Why do Dems keep losing?

I just don't understand what is happening here. First was 
2000, when the election was so close that it could be 
stolen. Then, it was 2002 when we lost seat after seat in 
Congress. Now, it's California.

They are literally bankrupting our country, turning the 
treasury over to the rich and corporate interests, and 
gutting every social program.

How and why do they keep winning? Why are people voting 
against their own interests? What are we missing here?

[GulliverSwift]

Didn't know that. Too bad her elected relatives don't take her advice on abortion.

[Howlin]

Why are you bringing how much we weight into this? :-)

[BlessedByLiberty]

What I loved was Hissy Matthews saying that our new GUV has to talk to the print media. The same media that the people are abandoning in favor of the internet, this Free Republic Forum, FOX News and talk radio?

Right my family will give up all of the above and subscribe to the SF Chronicle or LA TIMES!

BTW, while discussing Arnold's groping of women, Mr. Matthews was awfully rude to the woman, Ms. Noonan, sitting next to him. I've rarely seen Peggy Noonan angry - but he ticked her off!

[jwalsh07]

Did you see the anti "illegal" immigrant drivers license exit polling? Couple that with what's going on in Arizona and there's a movement afoot. My money says that with the lecetion right around the corner, the fellows and gals in the capital are going to sit up and take notice.

[Ichneumon]

Wow, on CNN actor Rob Lowe just said (to Judy Woodruff, of all people) that Arnold will "bring more conservatism to this state that so badly needs it".

[GOPrincess]

And Eunice has put her ideas about the value of life into action, i.e., the Special Olympics. She was very affected by her older sister Rosemary's mental disability.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Yep, good point.

[socal_parrot]

Rob Lowe acting decrying "puke politics" on CNN.

[PhiKapMom]

Woodruff is full of it -- I saw how Maria's parents were so happy for the both of them. Her Dad kept holding thumbs up for Arnold. Her family looked absolutely thrilled for Arnold and Maria.

[Joe Hadenuf]

The greatest state of the greatest country on earth.

Howdy Ron.....

[gortklattu]

Arnold's governorship has nothing to do with prolife or prokilling....

He's got enough on his plate right now

[kingu]

The Dems can downplay and spin this all they would like, but they knew what was at stake. They trotted every name they had out there to save Davis. The Democrats are in very big trouble.

Only if the grassroots keep pushing it. After watching my party leaders tonight, what wasn't in Century City, I'm not expecting any change or surprises from them...

[Howlin]

Is it late enough for me to call her a bitch?

[null and void]

LOL!

[GulliverSwift]

Thank you for that. These people never realize that their psycho nature appalls people.

[GOPrincess]

I will grant your point that Matthews has injected some good comments here and there :) -- but then he turns around and says the most imbecilic things. He's had nights I've thought he did a better, and fairer, job. JMHO, of course!

[Tamzee]

And a special pic for the folks at Democratic Underground!

[Keith]

Good catch PhiKap...I was STUNNED at how genuinely excited Mom and Dad Shriver were for Arnold...seeing all those Kennedy's up there celebrating a Republican throwing out a sitting Dem governor in a recall election...

This is truly a realignment in CA politics...it may take a while to sink in...and if the Dem keep up the demonization of Bush as their main platform for 04...it's landslide, baby.

[NormsRevenge]

Even Richie Ross sounded somewhat conciliatory and kind of hinted that the demRats in the state capitol might want to see what the people are saying as a result of the recall verdict.he is the number chumpo lobbyist for the demrats so,, who knows?

The overall results are sending a very clear message to the establishment politicos, a new sheriff is in town. It is in our best interest to do all we can to encourage real reform happens now and not a sham in the guise of change. More power to arnie if he can work toward that end successfully.

[socal_parrot]

Do it! You know you want to.

[null and void]

Why are you bringing how much we weight into this? :-)

Ya gotta play to your strengths...

[Fledermaus]

ROFL..."gutting social programs" which is LIB SPEAK for "not getting a 15% increase in our budget and only getting a 7% increase".

Liars all. Jerks all. WAKE UP AMERICA! Oh wait, those were DU'ers...my advice to them is suicide.

[Brimack34]

Rob Lowe. Yuckey on Cnn Ron silver has Jumped ship. Brian the a-hole williams is of thank my lord. Joe is on thank my lord. And I have you thank my lord.

[FairOpinion]

Arnold gave his acceptance speech about a half hour ago. It was short, classy -- he wants to work with everybody for doing what's best for CA.

[Fledermaus]

Great observation. Does Hissy fit acknowledge the print media's culpability in it's biased reporting at the LA Times?

No. He's a DNC pimp.

[GulliverSwift]

Well, I'm turning in now. Thanks for the good chat everyone!

Davis is Dumped!

[GOPrincess]

Bag man, how so?

I remember reading that the late Steve Smith (husband of youngest sister Jean) was the big "money guy," but didn't have that impression of Sargent Shriver. Can you provide any more detail? Thanks.

[Mo1]

SMOOCHES

[ApesForEvolution]

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46.2 % ( 7036 of 15213 ) precincts reporting as of Oct 7, 2003 at 10:53 pm

                       Votes            Percent

Yes         1,978,484             55.0 
No          1,621,225             45.0    

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46.2 % ( 7036 of 15213 ) precincts reporting as of Oct 7, 2003 at 10:53 pm
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Arnold Schwarzenegger Rep 1,676,441 48.9 Cruz M. Bustamante Dem 1,085,129 31.7 Tom McClintock Rep 450,398 13.2 Peter Miguel Camejo Grn 85,119 2.5 Arianna Huffington Ind 28,874 0.9 Peter V. Ueberroth Rep 11,816 0.4 Larry Flynt Dem 6,598 0.2 George B. Schwartzman Ind 4,851 0.2 Gary Coleman Ind 4,750 0.2 Bill Simon Rep 4,519 0.2
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46.2 % ( 7036 of 15213 ) precincts reporting as of Oct 7, 2003 at 10:53 pm

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Yes	1,154,005	35.3
No	2,114,099	64.7

Proposition 54 Classification by Race, ... Color or Origin.
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Yes	1,334,996	39.2
No	2,069,008	60.8

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[Howlin]

Try this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ae6d7795ca4.htm#106

[gortklattu]

The demo underground will post the same photo, but with hairy armpits

[Tamzee]

Thank you for the map... that is incredible and so beautiful a sight!

[Salvation]

**What are we missing here?**

Their dim brains! Rotflol!

[Torie]

Ya, 13% of Hispancis were against it, 7% if the blacks if you can believe it, and 74% of the Anglos. Sad really. We are not yet a color blind society, or ethnicity blind, or something.

[Hoverbug]

They'd better if they're wise.

Hb

[GOPrincess]

"on CNN actor Rob Lowe just said (to Judy Woodruff, of all people) that Arnold will "bring more conservatism to this state that so badly needs it".:

My jaw is on the floor. Whoa!!

[ApesForEvolution]

Just being married to a schmuck like that would be reason enough to cry...

[Brimack34]

How many times can that makeup from fox chick on msnbc say grouping and maria in the same news.

[Howlin]

Has the world turned upside down?

[RonDog]

Hi, Joe!

Next up, we must hold Arnold's feet to the conservative fire, starting with:

www.SaveOurLicense.com