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California Recall Live Thread

Posted on 10/07/2003 5:34:25 AM PDT by Sabertooth



Do it California. Post here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: adiosdavis; bewaredemvotefraud; ccrm; militaryvote; presstitutes
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To: GOPrincess
Sarge Shriver headed the Peace Corps for JFK, but the do run the Special Olympics.

Sarge Shriver is the "bag man" for the entire Kennedy clan.
3,851 posted on 10/07/2003 10:56:38 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Best balloon drop and confetti shower I've seen since the Wellstone memorial.
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Way to go. That's one of the best comments on the thread.

3,852 posted on 10/07/2003 10:56:43 PM PDT by doug from upland (Arnold cannot be compared to Clinton.......Clinton is a vicious biting perjuring rapist)
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To: NormsRevenge
For anyone that wants to watch online...

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS
3,853 posted on 10/07/2003 10:57:10 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Howlin
:o)

Now, if we can just flush out that last little bit of "red" sewage still stuck in that area near San Francisco...

3,854 posted on 10/07/2003 10:57:18 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: alwaysconservative
Didn't know that. Too bad her elected relatives don't take her advice on abortion.
3,855 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:04 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Recall the media)
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To: alwaysconservative
And Eunice has put her ideas about the value of life into action, i.e., the Special Olympics. She was very affected by her older sister Rosemary's mental disability.
3,856 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:04 PM PDT by GOPrincess (Proud resident of Orange County, CA!)
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To: Brimack34
Are you saying Peggy Noonan is pissed at the Support Free Republic posts?
3,857 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:04 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Torie
Did you see the anti "illegal" exit polling? Couple that with what's going on in Arizona and there's a movement afoot. My money says that with the lecetion right around the corner, the fellows and gals in the capital are going to sit up and take notice.
3,858 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:04 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: strela
Pics coming in... and Mrs. Ex-Gov needs more tissues!


3,859 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:04 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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Democratic Underground Death Watch http://democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=491746&mesg_id=491746
prolesunited  (1000+ posts)   
Wed Oct-08-03 12:08 AM
Original message

Why do Dems keep losing?

I just don't understand what is happening here. First was 
2000, when the election was so close that it could be 
stolen. Then, it was 2002 when we lost seat after seat in 
Congress. Now, it's California.

They are literally bankrupting our country, turning the 
treasury over to the rich and corporate interests, and 
gutting every social program.

How and why do they keep winning? Why are people voting 
against their own interests? What are we missing here?

3,860 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:04 PM PDT by ElCapitanAmerica
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To: alwaysconservative
Didn't know that. Too bad her elected relatives don't take her advice on abortion.
3,861 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:04 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Recall the media)
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To: null and void
Why are you bringing how much we weight into this? :-)
3,862 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:04 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: GulliverSwift
What I loved was Hissy Matthews saying that our new GUV has to talk to the print media. The same media that the people are abandoning in favor of the internet, this Free Republic Forum, FOX News and talk radio?

Right my family will give up all of the above and subscribe to the SF Chronicle or LA TIMES!

BTW, while discussing Arnold's groping of women, Mr. Matthews was awfully rude to the woman, Ms. Noonan, sitting next to him. I've rarely seen Peggy Noonan angry - but he ticked her off!

3,863 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:08 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Torie
Did you see the anti "illegal" immigrant drivers license exit polling? Couple that with what's going on in Arizona and there's a movement afoot. My money says that with the lecetion right around the corner, the fellows and gals in the capital are going to sit up and take notice.
3,864 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:14 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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Wow, on CNN actor Rob Lowe just said (to Judy Woodruff, of all people) that Arnold will "bring more conservatism to this state that so badly needs it".
3,865 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:24 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: alwaysconservative
And Eunice has put her ideas about the value of life into action, i.e., the Special Olympics. She was very affected by her older sister Rosemary's mental disability.
3,866 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:27 PM PDT by GOPrincess (Proud resident of Orange County, CA!)
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To: alwaysconservative
Yep, good point.
3,867 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:31 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: RonDog
Rob Lowe acting decrying "puke politics" on CNN.
3,868 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:33 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Arnold...a mandate!)
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To: socal_parrot
Woodruff is full of it -- I saw how Maria's parents were so happy for the both of them. Her Dad kept holding thumbs up for Arnold. Her family looked absolutely thrilled for Arnold and Maria.
3,869 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:34 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Vote for Arnold -- Republican by Choice!)
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To: RonDog
The greatest state of the greatest country on earth.

Howdy Ron.....

3,870 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:34 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: alwaysconservative
Arnold's governorship has nothing to do with prolife or prokilling....

He's got enough on his plate right now
3,871 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:37 PM PDT by gortklattu
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To: Dolphy
The Dems can downplay and spin this all they would like, but they knew what was at stake. They trotted every name they had out there to save Davis. The Democrats are in very big trouble.

Only if the grassroots keep pushing it. After watching my party leaders tonight, what wasn't in Century City, I'm not expecting any change or surprises from them...
3,872 posted on 10/07/2003 10:58:57 PM PDT by kingu (Grasshopper - My official drink of the 2003 recall election.)
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To: socal_parrot
Is it late enough for me to call her a bitch?
3,873 posted on 10/07/2003 10:59:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: ElCapitanAmerica
LOL!
3,874 posted on 10/07/2003 10:59:19 PM PDT by null and void
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To: ElCapitanAmerica
Thank you for that. These people never realize that their psycho nature appalls people.
3,875 posted on 10/07/2003 10:59:23 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Recall the media)
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To: GulliverSwift
I will grant your point that Matthews has injected some good comments here and there :) -- but then he turns around and says the most imbecilic things. He's had nights I've thought he did a better, and fairer, job. JMHO, of course!
3,876 posted on 10/07/2003 10:59:41 PM PDT by GOPrincess (Proud resident of Orange County, CA!)
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To: ElCapitanAmerica
And a special pic for the folks at Democratic Underground!


3,877 posted on 10/07/2003 10:59:46 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: PhiKapMom
Good catch PhiKap...I was STUNNED at how genuinely excited Mom and Dad Shriver were for Arnold...seeing all those Kennedy's up there celebrating a Republican throwing out a sitting Dem governor in a recall election...

This is truly a realignment in CA politics...it may take a while to sink in...and if the Dem keep up the demonization of Bush as their main platform for 04...it's landslide, baby.
3,878 posted on 10/07/2003 10:59:52 PM PDT by Keith
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To: GulliverSwift
Even Richie Ross sounded somewhat conciliatory and kind of hinted that the demRats in the state capitol might want to see what the people are saying as a result of the recall verdict.he is the number chumpo lobbyist for the demrats so,, who knows?

The overall results are sending a very clear message to the establishment politicos, a new sheriff is in town. It is in our best interest to do all we can to encourage real reform happens now and not a sham in the guise of change. More power to arnie if he can work toward that end successfully.
3,879 posted on 10/07/2003 11:00:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Howlin
Do it! You know you want to.
3,880 posted on 10/07/2003 11:00:06 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Arnold...a mandate!)
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To: Howlin
Why are you bringing how much we weight into this? :-)

Ya gotta play to your strengths...

3,881 posted on 10/07/2003 11:00:10 PM PDT by null and void
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To: ElCapitanAmerica
ROFL..."gutting social programs" which is LIB SPEAK for "not getting a 15% increase in our budget and only getting a 7% increase".

Liars all. Jerks all. WAKE UP AMERICA! Oh wait, those were DU'ers...my advice to them is suicide.
3,882 posted on 10/07/2003 11:00:13 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I DONATED! HAVE YOU? DONATE NOW OR I'LL HAVE YOU TAKEN OFF THE DO NOT CALL LIST)
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To: jwalsh07
Rob Lowe. Yuckey on Cnn Ron silver has Jumped ship. Brian the a-hole williams is of thank my lord. Joe is on thank my lord. And I have you thank my lord.
3,883 posted on 10/07/2003 11:01:05 PM PDT by Brimack34 (Jessie the Body gave MN. a 4.5 bil. deficite!!)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Arnold gave his acceptance speech about a half hour ago. It was short, classy -- he wants to work with everybody for doing what's best for CA.
3,884 posted on 10/07/2003 11:01:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: BlessedByLiberty
Great observation. Does Hissy fit acknowledge the print media's culpability in it's biased reporting at the LA Times?

No. He's a DNC pimp.
3,885 posted on 10/07/2003 11:01:15 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I DONATED! HAVE YOU? DONATE NOW OR I'LL HAVE YOU TAKEN OFF THE DO NOT CALL LIST)
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To: All
Well, I'm turning in now. Thanks for the good chat everyone!

Davis is Dumped!
3,886 posted on 10/07/2003 11:01:16 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Recall the media)
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To: Howlin
Bag man, how so?

I remember reading that the late Steve Smith (husband of youngest sister Jean) was the big "money guy," but didn't have that impression of Sargent Shriver. Can you provide any more detail? Thanks.
3,887 posted on 10/07/2003 11:01:22 PM PDT by GOPrincess (Proud resident of Orange County, CA!)
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To: null and void
SMOOCHES
3,888 posted on 10/07/2003 11:01:33 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Ca State Seal C A L I F O R N I A   S E C R E T A R Y   O F   S T A T E
 K E V I N   S H E L L E Y


Statewide Special Election
October 7, 2003

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Shall GRAY DAVIS be recalled (removed) from the office of Governor?
46.2 % ( 7036 of 15213 ) precincts reporting as of Oct 7, 2003 at 10:53 pm
                       Votes            Percent
Yes         1,978,484             55.0 
No          1,621,225             45.0    
County Returns

Leading Candidates to succeed GRAY DAVIS as Governor if he is recalled:
46.2 % ( 7036 of 15213 ) precincts reporting as of Oct 7, 2003 at 10:53 pm
Candidate                        Party     Votes    Percent
  Arnold Schwarzenegger          Rep   1,676,441   48.9 
  Cruz M. Bustamante             Dem   1,085,129   31.7 
  Tom McClintock                 Rep     450,398   13.2 
  Peter Miguel Camejo            Grn      85,119    2.5 
  Arianna Huffington             Ind      28,874    0.9 
  Peter V. Ueberroth             Rep      11,816    0.4 
  Larry Flynt                    Dem       6,598    0.2 
  George B. Schwartzman          Ind       4,851    0.2 
  Gary Coleman                   Ind       4,750    0.2 
  Bill Simon                     Rep       4,519    0.2 
   
Leader Order Alphabetical Order

State Ballot Measures
46.2 % ( 7036 of 15213 ) precincts reporting as of Oct 7, 2003 at 10:53 pm
Proposition 53 Infrastructure: Finance.
Total Votes Percent                         
Yes 1,154,005 35.3 
No 2,114,099 64.7 
Proposition 54 Classification by Race, ... Color or Origin.
Total Votes Percent                         
Yes 1,334,996 39.2 
No 2,069,008 60.8 
County Returns



 
 
California 2003 Statewide Special Election
Links to Other Contests
Propositions Governor Shall Gray Davis be recalled?
Certified List of Candidates Alphabetic
County Status
 
 
California 2003 Statewide Special Election
Party Abbreviations
Dem - Democratic
Rep - Republican
AmI - American Independent
Grn - Green
Lib - Libertarian
Nat - Natural Law
P&F - Peace & Freedom
Ind - Independent (no party affiliation)

3,889 posted on 10/07/2003 11:01:34 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Try this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ae6d7795ca4.htm#106
3,890 posted on 10/07/2003 11:01:37 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Tamsey
The demo underground will post the same photo, but with hairy armpits
3,891 posted on 10/07/2003 11:01:56 PM PDT by gortklattu
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To: RonDog
Thank you for the map... that is incredible and so beautiful a sight!


3,892 posted on 10/07/2003 11:02:06 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: ElCapitanAmerica
**What are we missing here?**

Their dim brains! Rotflol!
3,893 posted on 10/07/2003 11:02:06 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: jwalsh07
Ya, 13% of Hispancis were against it, 7% if the blacks if you can believe it, and 74% of the Anglos. Sad really. We are not yet a color blind society, or ethnicity blind, or something.
3,894 posted on 10/07/2003 11:02:21 PM PDT by Torie
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To: jwalsh07
They'd better if they're wise.

Hb
3,895 posted on 10/07/2003 11:02:24 PM PDT by Hoverbug
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To: Ichneumon
"on CNN actor Rob Lowe just said (to Judy Woodruff, of all people) that Arnold will "bring more conservatism to this state that so badly needs it".:

My jaw is on the floor. Whoa!!
3,896 posted on 10/07/2003 11:02:38 PM PDT by GOPrincess (Proud resident of Orange County, CA!)
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To: Tamsey
Just being married to a schmuck like that would be reason enough to cry...
3,897 posted on 10/07/2003 11:02:40 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: ApesForEvolution
How many times can that makeup from fox chick on msnbc say grouping and maria in the same news.
3,898 posted on 10/07/2003 11:02:55 PM PDT by Brimack34 (Jessie the Body gave MN. a 4.5 bil. deficite!!)
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To: socal_parrot
Has the world turned upside down?
3,899 posted on 10/07/2003 11:03:08 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Hi, Joe!

Next up, we must hold Arnold's feet to the conservative fire, starting with:

www.SaveOurLicense.com

3,900 posted on 10/07/2003 11:03:13 PM PDT by RonDog
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