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P.C. Insanity at the Pentagon
TownHall.com ^ | Wednesday, October 8, 2003 | by Michelle Malkin

Posted on 10/08/2003 12:34:03 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: Ajnin
He committed fraud and was rewarded for it by being allowed to stay in this country in the first place, allowed to join the military and then given legal status.

Correct. End of story.

41 posted on 10/08/2003 6:58:14 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Ajnin
Well , being given the choice of join the Army or go to jail for misdemeanors used to be farly common in dealing with young American men. It was viewd as giving them a chance to straighten their lives out under the not so tender eye of a good drill instructor, etc.
42 posted on 10/08/2003 7:00:04 AM PDT by hoosierham
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To: Prodigal Son
It's not the end of the story. It's going to keep going on for as long as the government will buy into every sob story and myth about how illegals are good for this country.
43 posted on 10/08/2003 7:02:17 AM PDT by Ajnin
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To: FixitGuy
Don't worry! English will still be spoken behind the walled estates of the wealthy (of course, your grandchildren won't speak it but if you don't have a trust fund, you don't count anymore).
44 posted on 10/08/2003 7:02:52 AM PDT by fortaydoos
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To: JohnHuang2
Look this essay is a bit south on historical precedents. I mean at some significant disregard of such precedents.

Join a group of fighting men, and you're in 'til death, victory or dishonor do you part. Whether conscript, volunteer, press ganged, shanghaied, captured, or whatever. Once in, you're in. Period.

That's the general historical rule. Once in a unit, doesn't matter how you got there. You're there.

45 posted on 10/08/2003 7:08:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: webwizard
Not only is he not supposed to be here but he committed fraud and broke the law when he enlisted.

If you want a military and country full of liars and criminals that's your problem, don't make it ours. After you're done with your defense of this criminal please tell which federal laws I as a citizen am allowed to break.

These people and their pandering enablers are holding the laws that make our country great in contempt and we'll be all the worse for it.

46 posted on 10/08/2003 7:12:05 AM PDT by AAABEST (http://www.floridasoundoff.com)
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To: Ajnin
It's not the end of the story.

Hmmm. Maybe. Maybe not. Who knows?

It's going to keep going on for as long as the government will buy into every sob story

But in this individual's case his story was compelling. I don't see a cause for alarm in Escalante's case. He grew up in America and now he has earned his right to stay. 'Nuff said. Doesn't bother me at all.

47 posted on 10/08/2003 7:30:02 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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48 posted on 10/08/2003 8:51:42 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
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49 posted on 10/08/2003 9:11:41 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: JohnHuang2
I heard an interview on Fox News in which the guest came right out and said that Rice was being given more responsibilities because Rumsfield was about to be let go.

I was pretty shocked at that revelation and wonder if anyone else has heard something similar.
52 posted on 10/08/2003 9:38:57 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: webwizard
And yet here on FR, in the midst of a war, we have armchair quarterbacks seriously proposing we reduce the ability to maintain our effective fighting force?

What you're arguing is comical. Not letting law breakers and those who commit fraud into our military is somehow detrimental.

BTW I may be a "armchair QB" but I did fight in the first Gulf War. Which war did you fight in? I ask this because you seem to imply that you're an authority and those who disagree with giving lawbreaking frauds special favors are armchair types?

53 posted on 10/08/2003 9:40:39 AM PDT by AAABEST (http://www.floridasoundoff.com)
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To: JohnHuang2
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54 posted on 10/08/2003 10:06:57 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("What is impossible with men is possible with GOD -Luke 18:27)
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To: JohnHuang2
Maybe DOD is afraid of having it discovered how many people in the military are in fact illegal aliens, if one looks closely.

I just hope they haven't been able to get assignments at Guantanamo.

55 posted on 10/08/2003 10:11:02 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: webwizard
Malkin is only a US citizen because she was born here.

Ummm, that is the exact circumstance behind the citizenship of 99.9% of all Americans.

56 posted on 10/08/2003 11:26:04 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: webwizard
Don't you think Malkin is slightly hypocritical?
No, she is being a citizen who understands that there is no right for people to come to the US.

Her father was a doctor and they immigrated here in 1970 on work visas. Malkin is only a US citizen because she was born here. Her parents didn't become citizens til '89 according to her.
1. Where did you get your information?
2. Her parents did come legally after being vetted.

Yet in interviews I've read she has also advocated restricting legal immigrants on work visa's and green cards. If the same policy had been applied to her parents, she'd still be in the Phillipines!
Maybe.
Just because a policy worked 30 years ago, it does not follow that it does today. She cares more about this country than other people around the world. Good for her.

57 posted on 10/08/2003 11:47:00 AM PDT by rmlew (Copperheads are traitors)
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To: Ajnin
illegal aliens like this get a free ride

Protecting you while you sleep is getting a free ride?

58 posted on 10/08/2003 1:53:17 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: JohnHuang2
Isn't there a federal law against knowingly hiring illegal aliens? Why, yes, there is.

Just because there is a law , it doesn't mean it'll be enforced. Heck, Billy Jeff Blythe actually recited the Presidential Oath of Office,Twice,w/out any comprehension as to what those words really meant and we know he lied ( and pointed that G.D. finger of his at every person watching a TV screen ) to the American people.An illegal in the U.S. military. Will wonders never cease?

59 posted on 10/08/2003 3:05:45 PM PDT by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug, Holier - Than - Thou Socialist)
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To: Britton J Wingfield
You should read the rest the of my posts. This guy broke law. He was not held accountable. He was rewarded for breaking the law. If a US citizen soldier beaks the law he is punished for it. Why do illegal aliens get a free pass to violate our laws.
60 posted on 10/08/2003 3:43:23 PM PDT by Ajnin
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