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THE RECALL! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?
CookingWithCarlo.com ^ | Oct. 8 2003 | Carlo3b Dad, Chef, Author

Posted on 10/08/2003 8:10:10 PM PDT by carlo3b

THE RECALL! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?

A TRUE CAUSE FOR ALARM, if you are an extremist, that is...

The final count and voting results of the California election may not be known for a few days or weeks, but the underlining meaning of the outcome has begun to resonate with the people that are paid to read the tea leaves .. and you may be surprised at the historic conclusions.

As the exit polling results were being tabulated, and it became obvious that the outcome was an unmistakable landslide, the tenor of the analysis began to change..  Listening to the talking heads, I couldn't help but wonder how the losers where going to try to spin the facts.. The fact was the people of California spoke their mind, in a clear and concise voice, that they had had enough! Enough, was the wakening of the American Spirit of. .FREEDOM!

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it."
-Abraham Lincoln

In a near singular voice, and with ramifications aside, the people said they were lied to once too often, and that a politician that lies to them with impunity, does so at their political peril. Once again in our recent memory.. much the same as did Prop # 13.. with California's Constitution, Article 2 Voting, Initiative and Referendum.
THE SUNRISE OF POLITICAL FREEDOM, DEFIED NATURE AND ROSE FROM THE WEST..

  "Freedom is that instant between when someone tells you to do something and when you decide how to respond."
-Dr. Jeffrey Borenstein 

The awakening has begun in some circles, but unfortunately not where it could do the most good.. the political poles! What this message said, could be argued in public forever, but not in the back rooms where the gurus have to bare their souls.. Left wing Liberals, and Right wing Conservatives are being told the facts of life today, and they had better pay attention.

True Conservatives can be a somewhat disappointed today, but not as much as they believe.. Their choice of Tom McClintock was validated in the actions and the voting outcome in yesterdays election. The candidate once again lived up to his billing as an honest man, as he did not sellout his word under pressure from friends or foes.

  "The true test of character is not how much we know how to do, but how we behave when we don't know what to do."
-John Holt

That principled position is slowly coming back into vogue, and impressed far more people than it would have, if the difference in the final count would have swayed the outcome. As it was, this fine man will now become a more formidable candidate against his next opponent, perhaps Senator Barbara Boxer, someone with whom principles have little or no relevance after her defense of Clinton's serial offences .. I will get back to her hero momentarily.

  "When you choose your friends, don't be short-changed by choosing personality over character."
-W. Somerset Maugham 

Republicans, have mixed emotions at best today, rejoicing at the defeat of a true Liberal Democrat trophy, but with the proviso that the day was carried by a socially moderate Hollywood type, and political neophyte. This is a wonderful lesson to learn for the future of this party and the betterment of our Country. Most Republicans that voted, closed ranks with their moderate brethren, at the detriment of their political enemies, taking away a victory where defeat was eminent.. Pragmatism was not a sellout in this case, it was a step in the right direction in getting a place at the table where future meals are sure to be more palatable.. a little FOOD lingo.. but I digress...

 "When all is lost, why do so many people, like Antony and Cleopatra, commit suicide? Would it not be more courageous to live and fight on?"
-Shakespeare

Republicans should feel relieved and proud to have a man, Arnold Schwarzenegger, warts and all, to face the challenges of the disaster that has befallen California, as the people with grant him a much wider birth than a person that claims to have the answers by virtue of years of public service and  the credentials to match. Solving the problems that are so well ingrained in the fabric of life will need a terminator to overcome.. with such a low bar set by his enemies he has little chance of falling short..

The Republican Party, could do a whole lot worst than associate with a wildly successful businessman, an immigrant from such humble beginnings, that has clawed his way to the very top of everything he has attempted, without federal help, or taxpayer money. He smiled at his partisan advisories, which were vigorously aided by a supposed free press, and beat them with his strength of his personal character, not only his broad shoulders.

  "The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would steal them away.
-Ronald Reagan

The Candidate Schwarzenegger, now Governor Elect, has brought together a coalition of people never dreamed of in a party that  has been tarred at the very least, as heartless.  And with his star power, one can see into a possible future for bigger battles yet to come. Lastly, with regard to conservatives, there are more components to this victory that are lurking in the background than meets the eye.. virtues in this victory are abundant!

  "The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
-Thomas Paine

The Left wing of the Democrat Party has lost the trust of the people of the State Of California in overwhelming numbers, and perhaps so much more than anyone on their side of the isle would like to admit. In an unprecedented show of political force by the highest levels of the Democrat power brokers, the liberals lost.. BIG.  Some of their safest constituencies, women, latinos, immigrants, moderates, union workers, and laborers, rejected the old Search and Destroy tactics, which have always been so successful in the past. Those despicable antics were actually the basis of a backlash, which may have been the building up in the craw of more than few.

  "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
-Abraham Lincoln

The biggest loser in this entire fiasco was none other than Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Her celebrity and that of her Icon husband, former President Wm. J. Clinton were challenged in both prestige and power, and found once again to be wanting. With the former President and his powerful political machine in full throttle, they guided a multi million dollar campaign. And with the assistance of a national, state, local, Corporate, Union, and Media allies at hand, with a incumbent to merely defend, all they were asked to do was to stave off a novice Hail Mary play by a band of rabble in a political sense.. and they lost in a landslide. Not a good sign!

Who can say, because we are already beginning to hear it, that this is further evidence that all the Clinton's have become is selfish, and bullies. Their legendary fundraising abilities have been overshadowed by the cost of their participation in siphoning the energy and spotlight at any venue they ingratiate..

"Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
-Lord Acton 

When it is her turn at bat, nationally, and when she attempt to call in the chits, many behind the scenes are whispering that their bodies may come running, but their hearts may take a hike. The days of absolute dominance over this party may be waning, and if and when the dancers refuse to dance... as Barbara Olson, one of the wisest women of our time wrote regarding Hillary and her rage, there will be, Hell To Pay!

  "Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."
-William Congreve, "The Mourning Bride"

The Left Wing Liberals.. are the next to take a major hit.. and they won't take this criticism laying down either. The GAY agenda has left.. need we say it, a bad taste.. in the mouths of the body politic. This may not have become so apparent as with their new found bold and blatant attack on the institution of Marriage. The Homosexual activists, a very small but loud and politically powerful constituency, has captured the Democrat Party in a way that no one can remember or control.

This has put the party in a somewhat uncomfortable position being at odds with other vital voting blocks that are more traditional in their own family values, Hispanics, Asians, Moderates, and even Blacks.. These groups find themselves as unusual allies with Social conservatives, a dangerous dilemma for the Democrats. The attempt to paint the new Governor Schwarzenegger as pro Gay makes a wonderful pre election wedge issue, but in reality isn't what they want. Arnold is ambivalent to the Gays and will not ever be his platform issue, Gray Davis, and Cruz were advocates and promoters.. and that is the ultimate loss, and will drop them to second stringers..

Their core voters and the Right Wing is an unholy alliance, as the liberals call it, is further aided by the Left's unorthodox hatred of the Almighty and everything touching HIM. Those same offended groups are once again looking to the Republican Party to save their souls. This will soon come home to roost if they lose any more.
Add to all of this the same constituencies are deeply divided with the unconscionable position of partial birth abortion. These and many other factors all contributed to the weakening of the grip on normal people..

"We were a silent, hidden thought in the folds of oblivion, and we have become a voice that causes the heavens to tremble."
-Kahlil Gibran, "Children of Gods, Scions of Apes"

Education, and public schools are miserable failures, and the most dependable and major political media pawns, the inner city poor, have just about had it with the Left's slavish devotion to the wealthy NEA, at the sacrifice of the poorest children. This insidious practice has kept the poverty stricken in the deepest of despair.. but not forever..
It is becoming all to obvious that dumbing down is causing a backup in the courts and court of public opinion.

  "The society which scorns excellence in plumbing as a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because it is an exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy: neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water."
-John W. Gardner

Finally, taxes and fees.. There is a strange phenomenon if the government that continues to grow the funding has to keep up with demand. The two inevitable foes finally crashed head-on in a car tax.. Nothing will ever be quite the same again..

  "The politicians don't just want your money. They want your soul. They want you to be worn down by taxes until you are dependent and helpless. When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both."
-James Dale Davidson
 



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1 posted on 10/08/2003 8:10:10 PM PDT by carlo3b
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2 posted on 10/08/2003 8:10:59 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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3 posted on 10/08/2003 8:11:21 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: carlo3b
I didn't see it, and you can't prove a thing...
4 posted on 10/08/2003 8:15:16 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks ("A body part when it's up against a plastic cup isn't going to go 'clink'")
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To: christie
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5 posted on 10/08/2003 8:15:44 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I saw you there.. and I have pictures to boot. hahahahahah!
6 posted on 10/08/2003 8:17:30 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Excellent! Compliments to the Chef!
7 posted on 10/08/2003 8:19:57 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Far out, man!)
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To: carlo3b
True Conservatives can be a somewhat disappointed today, but not as much as they believe

I thought it was win-win for conservatives. If enough people voted for Tom and Arnold lost, the republican party would have to move to the right to 'shore up' the base. Odd side effect - get more votes. With the numbers Tom got, I think it is good news. But Arnold won, and the R next to his name has to mean something(even if it is short for rino).

8 posted on 10/08/2003 8:20:27 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Tagline Loading - please wait.)
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To: carlo3b
Great post, Carlo. Thank you.

The Republican Party, could do a whole lot worst than associate with a wildly successful businessman, an immigrant from such humble beginnings, that has clawed his way to the very top of everything he has attempted, without federal help, or taxpayer money. He smiled at his partisan advisories, which were vigorously aided by a supposed free press, and beat them with his strength of his personal character, not only his broad shoulders.

Bumpity, bump!

9 posted on 10/08/2003 8:21:09 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (The CA recall's biggest losers are the three musketeers: the RATS, the LAT, and the National Inquire)
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To: carlo3b
Bump and a bookmark for an excellent post. You rock, Carlo!
10 posted on 10/08/2003 8:21:25 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: carlo3b
BTTT
11 posted on 10/08/2003 8:21:27 PM PDT by StriperSniper (Rush is mainlining THERA-GESIC® ;-)
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To: carlo3b
Yes, I saw that. Thanks for putting it into words.
12 posted on 10/08/2003 8:23:16 PM PDT by Aquamarine
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To: carlo3b
Carlo...The Man For All Seasons...
13 posted on 10/08/2003 8:23:35 PM PDT by tubebender (FReeRepublic...How bad have you got it...)
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To: carlo3b
Bump.
14 posted on 10/08/2003 8:23:57 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: carlo3b
very nice, thank you
15 posted on 10/08/2003 8:24:14 PM PDT by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: carlo3b
Darn political poles.
16 posted on 10/08/2003 8:27:27 PM PDT by jra
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To: carlo3b
Bump to the top.
17 posted on 10/08/2003 8:27:44 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (Poet's Rock the Boat!!)
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To: carlo3b
Man, it's gonna take some doing to wrap my mind around a republican California. It's been awhile.
18 posted on 10/08/2003 8:30:29 PM PDT by keats5 (And don't you dare correct my spelling!)
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To: carlo3b
BUMP
19 posted on 10/08/2003 8:33:37 PM PDT by hoosiermama (I lost my mind years ago; But I'm just now missing it!)
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To: carlo3b
Excellent post!
20 posted on 10/08/2003 8:36:43 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: carlo3b; *calgov2002; AuntB; jam137; GmbyMan; DoctorZIn; fooman; PeoplesRep_of_LA; ...
Excellent thoughts!!!

OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST

21 posted on 10/08/2003 8:39:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (All we need from a Governor is a VETO PEN!!!)
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To: carlo3b
Good post.
22 posted on 10/08/2003 8:41:20 PM PDT by jammer
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To: carlo3b
Hello Carlo...

What I saw was the Bay Area was overwelmingly against the Recall, L.A. was slightly against it, but the common sense of the rest of us were overwelmingly for it...

Would it be too harse to put walls up around S.F. and L.A. with guard towers? You know to keep the liberals where we can keep our eyes on them...

DD

23 posted on 10/08/2003 8:44:00 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Member VRWC, reluctant Arnold voter, would prefer Tom...I just hate Cruz)
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To: carlo3b
"The politicians don't just want your money. They want your soul. They want you to be worn down by taxes until you are dependent and helpless. When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both."

>>>-James Dale Davidson<<<

I like that one!

(Hi, carlo3b!)

24 posted on 10/08/2003 8:45:05 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: carlo3b
Carlo,

As always, I HAVE to read your posts. You write so well....I would think a man like you is multi-talented.

Have you ever tried cooking?.....just a thought...

Appreciate ya....


25 posted on 10/08/2003 8:47:12 PM PDT by bobbyd (Damn, I've been tagged!)
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To: carlo3b
"and when she attempt to call in the chits"

Fantastic summary, but... I never knew Hitlery put in a call to call in Cruz!!! Amazing!!!

26 posted on 10/08/2003 8:48:11 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I prefer consistent "Considerate Conservatives," to "Compassionate Conservatives," everytime !!!)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
But Arnold won, and the R next to his name has to mean something(even if it is short for rino).

The fact that the leftist slimes did everything they could to bring Arnold down, using every dirty trick, shows that they hate and fear him. If they hate and fear him, they must not own him. Maybe just because his actual views and how they will manifest are not known. Also, a lot of people who were formerly socially liberal changed when they got more informed.

Also, there's a point where a fiscal conservative and social liberal meet social conservatives: maintaining socially liberal platforms and programs COST LOTS OF MONEY!!

27 posted on 10/08/2003 8:50:39 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: carlo3b
Hi Carlo -

I believe that Schwarzenegger's election as governor of California tells us that fiscally conservative/socially liberal isn't an oxymoron, and can win.

To be perfectly blunt, "socially liberal" means only a few things that some conservatives hate worse than poison:

1) The belief that, while abortion should not be a constitutional right, early/first trimester abortions should not be outlawed.

2) The belief that, while homosexuals should not have special rights, homosexual behavior between consenting adults should not be illegal.

3) The belief that, while not all so-called "recreational drugs" should be available without a physician's supervision for serious medical conditions, only, personal use of marijuana should be, at worst, decriminalized, and perhaps even legalized.

In other words, something kinda like libertarianism only far more mainstream.

I used to be a member of the Libertarian party, but the Libertarians I knew seriously argued crazy stuff: that the Second Amendment should apply to personal nuclear weapons; that all drugs, even cyanide, should be legalized; and that even the strange little creatures in the bottom of the ocean should be someone's private property!

So, I became a Republican.

However, here on Free Republic I've met Republicans who seriously argue that only Christians and Jews can be Republicans, not atheists and no other religion; that if you believe in evolution you can't be a Republican; that gay people can't be Republicans (in fact, should be burned at the stake or stoned to death) and so on and so forth. They'd rather see a Democrat elected than what they call a RINO.

Well, phooey on them. It's my party, and I won't let them decide who is and isn't a Republican. I'm in the main stream, and I won't be marginalized.
28 posted on 10/08/2003 8:51:00 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (What would Ronnie do?)
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To: DiamondDon1
The official map show every county including in So. Ca. going for Arnold, with the exception of the SF Bay area! Who would ever have believed? Arnold, that's who!
29 posted on 10/08/2003 8:54:50 PM PDT by ladyinred (Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
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To: carlo3b
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

Mr. Lincoln settled in the blood of over half a million Americans whether or not we have a right to seperate from Washington D.C. The Declaration of Indepedence was rendered a dead letter by the first Republican president.

30 posted on 10/08/2003 8:55:01 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: carlo3b
Wow. What a great article. You hit the nail on the head. I hope someone gets this article out to Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. It's worth reading and everyone should read it. I'm not good at this so is there anyone who can get this article to Rush or Sean? It's incredibly truthful right down to the bone. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!
31 posted on 10/08/2003 8:57:36 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: tubebender
"Carlo...The Man For All Seasonsings...
32 posted on 10/08/2003 8:59:11 PM PDT by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: carlo3b

Great post, Carlo. Thank you.

Carlo: The Republican Party, could do a whole lot worst than associate with a wildly successful businessman, an immigrant from such humble beginnings, that has clawed his way to the very top of everything he has attempted, without federal help, or taxpayer money. He smiled at his partisan advisories, which were vigorously aided by a supposed free press, and beat them with his strength of his personal character, not only his broad shoulders.

Bumpity, bump!

9 posted on 10/08/2003 10:21 PM CDT by Victoria Delsoul (The CA recall's biggest losers are the three musketeers: the RATS, the LAT, and the National Inquire)

Nice tagline, Victoria! LOL

And seconding your bump with a return volley! WAY TO GO, CARLO!!!!!!!!!!

33 posted on 10/08/2003 9:03:47 PM PDT by Republic
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To: carlo3b
This is a wonderful lesson to learn for the future of this party and the betterment of our Country. Most Republicans that voted, closed ranks with their moderate brethren, at the detriment of their political enemies, taking away a victory where defeat was eminent.. Pragmatism was not a sellout in this case, it was a step in the right direction in getting a place at the table where future meals are sure to be more palatable.. a little FOOD lingo.. but I digress...

"When all is lost, why do so many people, like Antony and Cleopatra, commit suicide? Would it not be more courageous to live and fight on?" -Shakespeare

Cool

34 posted on 10/08/2003 9:05:57 PM PDT by Tempest
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bump for later
35 posted on 10/08/2003 9:15:29 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: carlo3b
Thank you so much for the excellent essay! Hugs!
36 posted on 10/08/2003 9:21:35 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: carlo3b
BRAVO, brilliantly put, old friend, and a shame that some here refuse to see reality,yet have chosen to heap insult on you and your words of wisdom.
37 posted on 10/08/2003 9:23:41 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: carlo3b
I agree with your points except this one:

Education, and public schools are miserable failures, and the most dependable and major political media pawns, the inner city poor, have just about had it with the Left's slavish devotion to the wealthy NEA, at the sacrifice of the poorest children. This insidious practice has kept the poverty stricken in the deepest of despair.. but not forever.. It is becoming all to obvious that dumbing down is causing a backup in the courts and court of public opinion.

The problem with inner city schools is not money, it's partly teacher's union, but the 900 pound gorilla that no one wants to address honestly (like illegal immigration) is the fact that many if not most of these kids come from broken homes typically with no responsible male parent and compromised maternal guardians.

Until that trend is stemmed, nothing else will work unless we take these children out of that environment forcibly which is never going to happen in a constitutional republic and the only folks who can fix that are those communities themselves.

38 posted on 10/08/2003 9:32:16 PM PDT by wardaddy (The Lizard King it was.....)
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To: carlo3b
"The biggest loser in this entire fiasco was none other than Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton."

On John Stewart's "The Daily Show", Stewart was putting the bee into her bonnet about how a "hypothetical presidential candidate" could go very short-run like Arnold, only announcing as close to the end as possible. She turned away from the camera a moment to late to cover the maniacal grin on her face. Now I don't need horror movies anymore.

Cobalt, I hear you about the Libertarians (been there done that). It does appear that Arnold has swiped their best ideas and left the rest in the padded room. The man has three (?) years to perform the tasks of Hercules, the role he was born for all along.
39 posted on 10/08/2003 9:37:20 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus ("To crush my enemies, to drive them before me and to hear the lamentation of the L.A. Times.")
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To: Revolting cat!
Compliments to the Chef!

Buono Appetito .. :o)

40 posted on 10/08/2003 9:50:17 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
I thought it was win-win for conservatives.

Indeed it was a win, win.. however not everyone shares our enthusiasm, and thats OK.. I understand..

"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent."
-John Donne, Devotions, 1624

41 posted on 10/08/2003 9:56:27 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Some of their safest constituencies, women, latinos, immigrants, moderates, union workers, and laborers, rejected the old Search and Destroy tactics, which have always been so successful in the past.

All of their dirty tricks failed...finally. They will never again feel certain that their smears and lies won't blow up in their RAT faces. Their smug arrogance has been dealt a wounding blow.

Davis, rather than feeling humbled by recall, defiantly sign bill after bill that was a slap in the face to the citizens of California. And he wonders why we collectively kicked his ass!

42 posted on 10/08/2003 9:59:18 PM PDT by christie (http://www.clintonlegacycookbook.com)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going." -Anon.
43 posted on 10/08/2003 10:00:44 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Great thread...Ping!
44 posted on 10/08/2003 10:05:11 PM PDT by lainde
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
"The young are generally full of revolt, and are often pretty revolting about it." -Mignon McLaughlin
45 posted on 10/08/2003 10:06:53 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them.

Mark Twain

46 posted on 10/08/2003 10:16:43 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Confession may be good for my soul, but it sure plays hell with my reputation.)
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To: christie
All of their dirty tricks failed...finally.

They haven't learned a thing.. thank heaven...LOL.. :)

47 posted on 10/08/2003 10:20:01 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: Aquamarine
Thank you.. :o)
48 posted on 10/08/2003 10:21:37 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: tubebender
"Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation leans on the doorbell." -Anon.... :)
49 posted on 10/08/2003 10:30:29 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
This is a must BUMP...
50 posted on 10/08/2003 10:32:07 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (God bless America ,land that i love.)
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