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U.S. wants defensive missile system in Europe against Iran; report
Drudge Report ^ | 10/9/03

Posted on 10/09/2003 11:53:21 AM PDT by areafiftyone

Munich (dpa) - The U.S. government is sounding out the possibility of bilateral agreements with European countries to allow stationing of a defensive missile system directed against Iran, a leading German newspaper reported in its Friday edition.

Countries accepting the missiles would be rewarded by the U.S. with economic assistance, according to the report in the Sueddeutsche Zeitung citing unnamed U.S. State Department officials.

One ranking U.S. diplomat told the newspaper a joint project with European participation would be preferable, creating a missile-defence system to guard against attacks on both Europe and North America. However chances of obtaining NATO approval for the project were slim, the official said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; iran; miltech; missiledefense

1 posted on 10/09/2003 11:53:22 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
"...directed against Iran..."

No bias here, eh? If it is a defensive system, how can it be "directed" against anyone?

2 posted on 10/09/2003 11:56:38 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" - Benjamin Franklin)
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3 posted on 10/09/2003 11:56:54 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: areafiftyone
U.S. wants defensive missile system in Europe against Iran

Sounds like a good idea.....
...as long as they leave a nice loophole and a wide corridor leaving France open to attack.

Death to Frogs!

nuff said.

4 posted on 10/09/2003 11:58:11 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: areafiftyone
U.S. wants defensive missile system in Europe against Iran

Sounds like a good idea.....
...as long as they leave a nice loophole and a wide corridor leaving France open to attack.

Death to Frogs!

nuff said.

5 posted on 10/09/2003 11:58:56 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: Pyro7480
Well its from a Euroweenie paper! What do you expect! ;-)
6 posted on 10/09/2003 11:59:41 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: DoctorZIn; nuconvert
ping
7 posted on 10/09/2003 12:03:12 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: areafiftyone
Are there no men left in Europe willing to defend it? I see no reason for the US government to spend taxpayer money paying for what the Europeans could pay for themselves.
8 posted on 10/09/2003 12:04:20 PM PDT by per loin
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To: areafiftyone
The U.S. government is sounding out the possibility of bilateral agreements with European countries to allow stationing of a defensive missile system directed against Iran,

I'm sure that it could be re-aimed in a matter of seconds to knock down any interesting ballistic missiles launched from within Europe as well.

9 posted on 10/09/2003 12:06:25 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: areafiftyone
Sounds like BS. If you're worried about Iran vs. Europe or the U.S., it seems to me that all you'd need would be Turkey, in order to get a missle in the boost phase.
10 posted on 10/09/2003 12:15:45 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (In for the monthly deal since 3 quarterlies ago - support Free Republic!)
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To: FreedomPoster
missile.
11 posted on 10/09/2003 12:16:14 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (In for the monthly deal since 3 quarterlies ago - support Free Republic!)
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To: per loin
Are there no men left in Europe willing to defend it? I see no reason for the US government to spend taxpayer money paying for what the Europeans could pay for themselves.

Spot on. And they spit on American graves buried in their wretched soil. If I were W, I'd get every single American out of Europe and Japan.

12 posted on 10/09/2003 12:17:40 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: areafiftyone
Oh boy. Sounds to me like our government is pretty much resigned to member 2 of the Axis of Evil becoming a long-range nuclear power. Under the Bush Doctrine, we should be directly attacking them in order to prevent this from ever happening.
13 posted on 10/09/2003 12:18:22 PM PDT by jpl
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To: FreedomPoster; section9; Nick Danger; Travis McGee; blam
"Sounds like BS. If you're worried about Iran vs. Europe or the U.S., it seems to me that all you'd need would be Turkey, in order to get a missle in the boost phase."

Shhhhhh...

This is clever politics (to make such a proposal). Europe will turn down Bush's aid Dollars and they will reject his missile defenses...and then they will have nowhere to point their finger if they do get hit by Iran...

15 posted on 10/09/2003 12:30:08 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: areafiftyone
Can the Europeans afford it? Or is this another 'on the breaking backs of the American taxpayer' type free ride?
17 posted on 10/09/2003 12:33:29 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: jpl
we should be directly attacking them

Syria is next. Iran will have to wait.

18 posted on 10/09/2003 12:36:26 PM PDT by ASA Vet ("Those who know don't talk, those who talk, don't know.")
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To: areafiftyone
I don't see a problem with this. Sell this system's protection to the European countries that are willing to pick up the tab for their own defense.

Tasty Manatees
19 posted on 10/09/2003 12:41:10 PM PDT by TastyManatees (http://www.tastymanatees.com)
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To: areafiftyone
I don’t buy it.
If we’re worried about Iranian missiles we could set up anti-missile assets in Iraq.
20 posted on 10/09/2003 12:46:05 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: tractorman
Why aren't we bombing the Iranian Uranium enrichment facilities. Why do we wait for Israel to do that? The Iranian government has been our archenemy from day one.
21 posted on 10/09/2003 12:50:10 PM PDT by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
I’m with you! I don’t see why we don’t just blow it up and blame it on an Iranian nuke accident.
22 posted on 10/09/2003 12:56:14 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: tractorman
I’m with you! I don’t see why we don’t just blow it up and blame it on an Iranian nuke accident.

Great minds think alike, you sly devil!

23 posted on 10/09/2003 1:12:57 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: per loin
Correct!

U.S. wants defensive missile system in Europe against Iran; report

The New 2004 (Sunni) 'EU' could call the defendive missile system "Death to the Shiite"...??

/sarcasm

24 posted on 10/09/2003 1:18:31 PM PDT by maestro
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To: philosofy123
"Why aren't we bombing the Iranian Uranium enrichment facilities."

One problem might be, that some of Iran's Uranium enrichment sites are under heavily populated cities, and we're not sure where. So blowing up nuclear reactors is only part of the problem.(which is what Israel has been talking about doing)
25 posted on 10/09/2003 1:21:20 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Stop thinking about it and do it.)
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To: per loin
Are there no men left in Europe willing to defend it?

Europe is willing to fight to the last American to defend itself.

26 posted on 10/09/2003 1:31:25 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Cobra64
And they spit on American graves buried in their wretched soil.

All of 'em?

27 posted on 10/09/2003 1:57:48 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Southack
and then they will have nowhere to point their finger if they do get hit by Iran...

Well... Is Iran planning on hitting Europe? I haven't heard anything like this. Jeez, Iran has enough trouble just trying to keep down its own insurrection and worrying about its territorial integrity without pestering Europe with a missile strike. Seems like if they wanted to threaten anyone it would be Israel.

28 posted on 10/09/2003 2:01:07 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Pyro7480
To not piss Russia off for having yet another missle defense system errected.. espically in their backyard.
29 posted on 10/09/2003 2:03:31 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: areafiftyone
Here's some more on this (probably where Drudge is getting his info):

US 'mulls Iran defence missiles' (source- News.com.au)

From correspondents in Berlin October 10, 2003

THE US government is considering stationing defensive missiles in a number of European countries against a potential attack from Iran, Germany's Sueddeutsche newspaper reports.

The daily quotes a high-ranking US diplomat as saying the Americans want to develop a defensive missile network with Europeans, but doubted whether a deal could be reached quickly by NATO.

Because of these concerns, Washington may pursue bilateral agreements with individual European countries for the deployment, in 2006, of anti-ballistic systems in exchange for economic aid, the Sueddeutsche said.

The diplomat acknowledged that such an approach could lead to new tensions with some European countries following the rift over the US-led Iraq war, the report says.

US defence policy specialist Benjamin Schreer of the German Institute for International and Security Affairs told the newspaper that Romania and Bulgaria could be the "first choices" for such agreements with the US.

30 posted on 10/09/2003 2:04:48 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: per loin
Don't forget about all the U.S. troops there. We like to see a small nuke land in one of our bases? How would you feel about tens of thousands of American's dying because we were unwilling to spend the money to protect them?
31 posted on 10/09/2003 2:05:10 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Prodigal Son
Sorry, screwed the link up-

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7516405%255E1702,00.html
32 posted on 10/09/2003 2:05:19 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
And the link to the Sueddeutsche Zeitung with the original article (it says the same thing):

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/ticker/iptc-bdt-20031009-738-dpa_4881306/
33 posted on 10/09/2003 2:09:11 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: areafiftyone
Countries accepting the missiles would be rewarded by the U.S. with economic assistance, according to the report in the Sueddeutsche Zeitung citing unnamed U.S. State Department officials.

Long live the empire!

34 posted on 10/09/2003 2:10:33 PM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: Almondjoy
I don't see why we should be spending our tax money to have our troops in Europe protecting Europeans.
35 posted on 10/09/2003 2:12:08 PM PDT by per loin
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To: areafiftyone
The most likely target would actually be Israel.

I would suggest deployment on the soil of our new best friend Iraq.

36 posted on 10/09/2003 2:15:17 PM PDT by toast
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To: areafiftyone
Is this thing going to destroy the missles entirely? 'Cause if it's cheaper to simply deflect them into France... (or even if it costs a bit extra...)
37 posted on 10/09/2003 2:17:24 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: per loin
Or having a large medical base in Germany that is serving to keep American G.I.'s alive? I'm not sure you understand the whole concept of logistics.
38 posted on 10/09/2003 2:29:19 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: areafiftyone
Why not just destroy Iran? Wouldnt it be cheaper?
39 posted on 10/09/2003 2:37:39 PM PDT by Delbert
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To: tractorman
"I’m with you! I don’t see why we don’t just blow it up and blame it on an Iranian nuke accident."

Nah, blame it on Israel and when TSHTF we'll have an excuse to clean out the whole middle east once and for all.

40 posted on 10/09/2003 3:31:27 PM PDT by blam
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To: areafiftyone
Boeing to Help Russia Shoot down American Missiles

Boeing signed a new agreement, July 30, 2003, with a Russian defense manufacturer that undermines the effectiveness of America's Minuteman III and Trident missiles.

This agreement with Russian defense manufacturer RTI-Systems Concern of Moscow will improve the architecture of its radar systems. RTI Systems is interested in using Boeing's help to improve the Russian missile defense system.

This information came from an article titled "Boeing and RTI-Systems of Russia announce agreement" in the Boeing News July 30, 2003. The Russian missile defense system is designed to shoot down American missiles. The most disturbing aspect of this agreement is Boeing's intimate knowledge of the threat the Russian missile defense system will face. Boeing makes 500 of the missiles that will penetrate their defenses.

Boeing manufactured the Minuteman III missile in the 1960s as the land-based component of America's strategic nuclear forces. The U.S. Government paid Boeing millions of dollars to build and maintain this missile for the security of the United States. Another problem with this agreement is Boeing's intimate knowledge of America's missile defense. Boeing is integrator for America's missile defense, which is designed to shoot down Russian missiles. American scientists working with Russian scientists to shoot down American Missiles is a fundamental conflict of interest for Boeing employees, The Boeing Company and the Bush administration, if it approves this.

41 posted on 10/09/2003 4:28:03 PM PDT by haole (John 10 30)
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To: areafiftyone
Countries accepting the missiles would be rewarded by the U.S. with economic assistance, according to the report in the Sueddeutsche Zeitung citing unnamed U.S. State Department officials.

These people must think we're nuts. We're offering them bribe money to allow us to defend them.

42 posted on 10/09/2003 10:10:43 PM PDT by kimosabe31
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To: per loin
We are not just protecting Europe, but our strategic forward bases!
43 posted on 10/10/2003 11:37:19 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: kimosabe31
We're trying to protect our forward bases.
44 posted on 10/10/2003 11:38:57 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
Long live the empire!

Bingo!!
45 posted on 10/10/2003 11:41:18 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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