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my demented brain | 10/11/2003 | dirtboy

Posted on 10/11/2003 12:46:46 PM PDT by dirtboy

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And most of the time they won't publish a correction even when it is pointed out to them.

That's because the news media operates almost entirely without fear of consequences for their actions. Our libel and slander laws are so weak and so heavily tilted in favor of the media on First Amendment grounds, that they are all but totally above both civil and criminal law. There is virtually no line they cannot cross. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

81 posted on 10/22/2003 11:56:02 AM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: dirtboy
Now they seem to believe that they can just spout off one whopper after another, with clearly traceable conspiracies to lie to the public - and when we call them on it, they issue a non-apologetic apology that basically blames us for pointing out their lies.

Therein lies the method to their defeat: For every commercial the dems run, create a counterpart showing the dem claim and Bush actually making the statement. Ditto for the debates, let the democrat make his false claim then have the actual video of the speech cued up.

They have become so bold in their lies that it is easy to show they are lying.

82 posted on 10/22/2003 11:59:02 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: cwboelter
And the fact that the media is trying to convince people to the contrary is contemptuous.

Contemptuous, yes, but even worse in my opinion. It's seditious — in the case of some reporters, commentators, and even Dem politicians, I would say deliberately so.

83 posted on 10/22/2003 11:59:35 AM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: okie01
Thanks for the ping, Okie01. This is a wonderful thread.
84 posted on 10/22/2003 12:05:36 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: dirtboy; Buckhead
Yep, Buckhead did a great job in #72. This kind of intelligent thread makes my day.
85 posted on 10/22/2003 12:07:07 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Wolfstar
This thread is a good example about how the internet levels the playing field between the professional spinners masquerading as journalists and the working stiffs who want to try and hold them accountable. One must imagine that the old-timers pine for the days when they could control the flow of information without all that nasty feedback from the ether.
87 posted on 10/22/2003 1:16:25 PM PDT by dirtboy (Now in theaters - Howard Dean as Buzz Lightweight - taking the Dems to Oblivion and Beyond in 2004!)
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To: dirtboy
"My hope is that they will be reduced to preaching to the choir composed of the 40 percent or so of Americans who are liberals - but in turn that leads to a danger of an even more polarized electorate, as the respective perceived reality of the liberals drifts further away from the real-world reality that we live in."

My hopes are somewhat more ambitious than that -- because of the consequences you describe. I hope the liberal Democrats are metaphorically squashed like a bug. Thence, expelled from serious public discourse forever. Yet, kept caged and alive so as to exhibit their malevolence -- as in a roadside reptile farm.

My reason is the 40% figure you cited above. Remember Lincoln's imprecation: No nation divided against itself can long survive. If 40% of the population is permanently alienated and disaffected, we have little chance of surviving...without another civil war.

So long as there is a functioning liberal Democrat party -- feeding them lies, playing to their victimhood, exhorting them to hate and supporting them with tax dollars via the vehicle of Big Government -- that 40%, while it may not grow, will fester.

I guess I'm past the point of generously thinking the Democrats can no longer be trusted and must reform themselves. It's as if they've become our own version of the Ba'ath party and must be destroyed...lest they destroy America.

Somewhat apocalyptic but...there you have it. I think Teddy Kennedy might be responsible for sending me over the line.

88 posted on 10/22/2003 2:38:14 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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"Thanks for the ping, Okie01. This is a wonderful thread."

Paired with yours, they make dandy bookends for a collection of media tripe.

89 posted on 10/22/2003 2:41:36 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: okie01; dirtboy; Buckhead
Just got back to my desk and caught up with the thread. We do have a sort of semi-underground, semi-peaceful civil war going on in this country between the hard-core Left and the rest of us. Like Okie, I'm not very optimistic about where it will all end. But, while I'm still on the planet, I won't give up the fight against the international Left and their ambitions. It's just good to know there are folks like you out there also carrying the fight to our Leftist enemies. :-)
90 posted on 10/22/2003 3:19:30 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Wolfstar
one more time.....
91 posted on 02/08/2004 2:52:49 PM PST by spoiler2
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