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Chinese, Japanese Started Prehistoric Exchanges 7,000 Years Ago: Archaeologists
China View ^ | 10-8-2003

Posted on 10/11/2003 3:34:55 PM PDT by blam

Chinese, Japanese started prehistoric exchanges 7,000 years ago: Archeologists 2003-10-08 20:56:41

@@BEIJING, Oct. 11 (Xinhuanet) -- Archeologists say Chinese and Japanese began prehistoric exchanges about 7,000 years ago.

@@More than 200 Chinese and Japanese scholars and archaeologists convened here Saturday for a symposium themed on prehistoric culture exchange between China and Japan. They compared archeological findings in China's Xinglonggou Relics Site in north China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, also popularly known as "China's first primitive village", and findings in Japanese sites from the Neolithic age, about 10,000 to 4,000 years ago.

@@The cultural exchanges occurred on a route from northeast China through coastal Russian areas to Japan's Hokkaido and Honshu over 7,000 years ago, noted Wang Wei, deputy director of the Institute of Archaeology of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

@@He went on to say that the old route had been known in south China from the lower reaches of the Yangtze River to Japan's Kyushu and Honshu.

@@Experts say the conclusion was based on several pieces of evidence. Jade rings used for ear decoration and bar-shaped jade used for neck decoration were usually found "together" in the northeast China approximately 8,000 years ago, but showed up together in 7,000-plus-year-old Japanese sites, said Wang.

@@The Japanese substituted their once widely-used pottery with flat-bottomed pieces, with forms and decorations widely found in northeast China's relic sites.

@@Findings excavated from Xinglonggou site, including half-underground homes, human bones and pottery and stone ware, will beconducive to the study of the two nations' cultural exchanges, according to Okamura Michio, director of the Department of Heijo Palace Site Investigations of the National Research Institute for Cultural Properties, Nara.

@@With a history of anywhere from 7,500 to 8,000 years, the Xinglonggou Relics Site, which was discovered in Chifeng city in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region back in 1982, has yielded 37 housing sites, 26 graves and over 50 pits used as storehouses. Excavation started in 2001 reveals the ancient tribal people lived from hunting and collecting wild plants.

@@They had several unique customs, building houses half underground, burying a small number of deceased villagers in residences for some unknown purposes and placing drilled deer and pig heads and clam shells before houses possibly for religious reasons.

@@The relic site is the earliest and most well-preserved of primitive villages in China and pushed estimates of the country's jade production history back to some 8,000 years ago.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 7000; ago; archaeology; archeology; chinese; exchanges; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; japanese; prehistoric; trade; years
I expect these folks will tread carefully, at the dates they're talking about, the Jomon and then the Ainu were in Japan and some parts of China...both had Caucasian features.
1 posted on 10/11/2003 3:34:56 PM PDT by blam
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2 posted on 10/11/2003 3:36:11 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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3 posted on 10/11/2003 3:48:15 PM PDT by blam
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Study Says Americas Settled 15,000 Year Ago
4 posted on 10/11/2003 3:52:15 PM PDT by blam
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Dear old mom told me that Japan was originally a prison colony for Chinese criminals. She said that when they were exiled there they mated with apes, and the Japanese were the result.

I don't believe it for a minute!

5 posted on 10/11/2003 4:11:08 PM PDT by LibKill (Force has settled more issues than any other factor. Forget that fact and pay large.)
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6 posted on 10/11/2003 4:19:45 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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I don't know how you get all these wonderful articles for us, but please just "keep on keeping on".
7 posted on 10/11/2003 4:23:09 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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11,000 Year Old Jomon Skeleton

8 posted on 10/11/2003 4:38:02 PM PDT by blam
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The Jomon and and Ainu are simply a diffent East Asian group ~ no more related to Caucasions than are the Sinatic peoples.

They also have their own type of teeth ~ different from everyone else!~

9 posted on 10/11/2003 4:49:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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The 15,000 yr. estimate is somewhat outdated now.

Genetic marking has placed the date of first american colonization - migration at between 25,000 to 20,000 B.C.E..
Earliest migration patterns tended to continue their path to the South american continent.
( Interesting tangent there, the 1st Asian-Siberian wave met another group in South America. They were basically of Australian aboriginal origin, and had already begun settling the continent. The 1st Asian-Siberian wave wiped them out, leaving only a few survivors, their descendants verified through DNA testing. Those descendants live(d) in the southernmost tip of South America. )
Later migrations had greater access to the North American continent as the ice sheets receded, and remained there, spreading eastward to the atlantic.

10 posted on 10/11/2003 5:33:20 PM PDT by Drammach
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One tidbit I remember about China and East Asia.

One of China's greatest strengths was it's size and it's people.
China has been "conquered" many times, by numerous groups, but has always retained it's chinese character.
The reason for this is, the chinese people and culture simply "absorbed" it's conquerors.
It might take 2 generations or ten, but sooner or later, someone else would wrest power away from the present ruler, laws, taxes and administrators would change for a while, then it would happen again.
The only constant was China itself.

Most Chinese, or East Asians, for that matter, are a conglomeration of many "east asian" subgroups.
The Ainu however, remained quite isolated, and remained fairly true to their stone age cultural past.
After all, they managed to continue worshipping the bear for 10,000 to 12,000 years at least, possibly for as long as 30,000 years.
That's a remarkably stable culture.

11 posted on 10/11/2003 5:50:01 PM PDT by Drammach
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"The 15,000 yr. estimate is somewhat outdated now."

Yup, I know. I posted the link in #4 because it has some pictures of Ainu through-out the thread. It looks like Cactus Hill, Topper and etc are heading toward the 18,000-20,000 year range. The link below about Windiver slipped up on me, interesting.

European DNA Found In 7-8,000 Year Old Skeleton In Florida (Windover)

12 posted on 10/11/2003 6:06:43 PM PDT by blam
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True enough the old Jomon culture was maintained into modern times, but even it's Westernmost extensions still exist. There has been a surprising unity of culture for people who live in the polar and subarctic regions in both the Old World and New World.

The Sami in America continue to maintain those differences in the structure of the Apostolic Charistmatic Church of the First Born, in the Fullness of Time teaching Christ's Commandments, Army Cross training (aka, "Faith Assembly" in the East).

It is noteworthy that Bill Clinton's birth father was a member of a COTFB congregation, although I think the linkage there was through Romany who have accreted to this group out of a common interest in circuses and carnivals.

13 posted on 10/11/2003 6:14:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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"The Jomon and and Ainu are simply a different East Asian group ~ no more related to Caucasions than are the Sinatic peoples."

Kennewick Man was originally mistaken for an early European settler.

"They also have their own type of teeth ~ different from everyone else!~"

Yup, read some of Christie Turner's studies in this area.

14 posted on 10/11/2003 6:17:28 PM PDT by blam
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I'm fascinated by the history of the Hakka and Xiongnu Chinese. The Hakka migrated all the way across China and into Korea, Japan and Taiwan and may have been related to the Caucasian mummies found in the Tarim Basin

Hakka History

"When Shi Le's nephew became the emperor, a Han general Ran Min ¥T ¶{ overthrew Hou Zhao and slaughtered all people with high nose bridge. This indicates an extreme ethnic conflict existed between the Han and non-Han at that time, close to the ethnic cleansing we see today in Bosnia. "

15 posted on 10/11/2003 6:29:22 PM PDT by blam
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16 posted on 04/04/2005 11:04:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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At first glance that is a very caucasian shaped skull.


17 posted on 04/05/2005 12:23:05 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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The earth hadn't been created by then. Darwinist claptrap.

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