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Why on earth did female voters help elect Arnold?
St. Petersburg Times ^ | October 12, 2003 | MARY JO MELONE

Posted on 10/12/2003 3:24:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Senator Kunte Klinte
Clinton is accused of sex assault when at Oxford
By David Wastell in Washington, The Telegraph, 28 February 1999 (Lest we forget.)

FRESH allegations of sexual assaults by the young Bill Clinton have emerged in the wake of last week's televised claim by Juanita Broaddrick that he raped her in her hotel bedroom in 1978.

At least two more women, one of them English, may have been his victims on earlier occasions, according to an Internet website that claims to have spoken to both in the past few days. The new charges, which have not been independently confirmed, are signals that the controversy over President Clinton's sexual conduct is far from over.

Ms Broaddrick's sometimes tearful account of Mr Clinton's alleged assault was watched in 23 million American homes and had a profound effect on many who saw it. According to an opinion poll, published by Fox News yesterday, 54 per cent of Americans believe Ms Broaddrick's version of events - which is denied by the President's lawyers - and half say her claim represents a "pattern of behaviour" by Mr Clinton. Some believe that Ms Broaddrick's interview may encourage other women to come forward.

Lucianne Goldberg, the literary agent who encouraged Linda Tripp to record her telephone conversations with Miss Lewinsky, has been hinting to friends that she has someone lined up to go public within a month.

Capitol Hill Blue, a conservative-leaning website, claims that a 19-year-old Englishwoman complained of being sexually assaulted by Mr Clinton at a pub near Oxford in 1969, when he was a Rhodes Scholar. It claims to have confirmation from a former State Department official. The alleged victim's family is said to have decided against pursuing the case.

According to Capitol Hill Blue, the woman - who it says is now married and lives near London - confirmed that there had been an incident when contacted last week but refused to go public. It said she had since changed her telephone number.

The same website also claims to have spoken to an unnamed woman who was sexually assaulted by Mr Clinton, then a Yale law student, in 1972. She was 22 at the time. According to the report, the woman confirmed the incident but declined to discuss it further. The Internet magazine said the incident was also confirmed by a retired campus policeman.

The website, run from suburban Virginia, is regarded by Washington insiders as significantly less reliable than rivals such as the Drudge Report, which was the first to reveal that the President had had an affair with Monica Lewinsky but which itself has not always proved correct.

Capitol Hill Blue's slogan, "Because nobody's life, liberty or property is safe while Congress is in session", suggests that its political leanings are well to the Right, qualifying it as part of what Clinton defenders regard as a "vast Right-wing conspiracy". Its report admits that a request for any records of the Oxford incident, filed under freedom of information legislation, failed to turn up anything.

The allegations are being made amid signs that women's organisations, whose support for Mr Clinton has been vital to his survival, are beginning to desert him. Patricia Ireland, president of the National Organisation for Women, said: "The story was devastating because she doesn't have an apparent political motivation and she doesn't seem to be in it for the money."

She urged people to treat Ms Broaddrick "fairly and respectfully" and, in a devastating sideswipe at the White House, called on Mr Clinton "to denounce this 'nuts or sluts' defence, the argument that she either made it up or asked for it".

Miss Ireland's intervention marks a significant shift in the position of one of America's most influential feminist groups, which earlier staunchly opposed impeachment. Republicans are calling on so-called "ethical Democrats" - senators such as Joseph Lieberman and Daniel Patrick Moynihan who took a moral stance on the President's behaviour after he admitted his affair with Miss Lewinsky - to confront Mr Clinton on Ms Broaddrick's allegations.

How likely they are to do so is another matter. Senator Lieberman did not even watch the NBC broadcast - "it was his birthday", said a spokesman. Another Democrat said: "People are disturbed by the possibility that the President behaved like that. But will anyone who matters press him on it? They didn't do so before and I would be very surprised if they do so now."

41 posted on 10/12/2003 5:14:37 AM PDT by OESY
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Bingo!
42 posted on 10/12/2003 5:18:07 AM PDT by RAY
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Real women handle unwanted advances all by ourselves, in both a timely and a no nonsense manner: a crack across the face!
43 posted on 10/12/2003 5:20:06 AM PDT by onyx
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To: Mike Fieschko
You mean that the writer's not interested in why people voted for Arnold?

She doesn't like the answers.

44 posted on 10/12/2003 5:24:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: wayoverontheright
Isn't it interesting that the party of "I am woman" is always so quick to insinuate that women lack gray matter?

It's that they didn't follow like sheep, that's sticking in her craw.

The Left is just flat out shocked that their last minute dirty tricks didn't peal off enough voters to keep Davis in office.

45 posted on 10/12/2003 5:26:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
" Clinton's women wanted him."

Kathileen Wiley? Juanita Broderick?
46 posted on 10/12/2003 5:26:07 AM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: onyx
Yes, women can make that point very clearly.
47 posted on 10/12/2003 5:27:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Can you say MTV and "that is not sex"? these are both issues nobody is adding to the mix. At MTV groping looks cool and anybody that thinks the Klinton didn't validate what kids already have been doing, thinks that genx and gennext are using the values of the cleavers. Forget it. A lot of women have a set of values especially in Kalifornia that do not match the blue states.
48 posted on 10/12/2003 5:32:21 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: billhilly

Clinton delivers his strongest denial of allegations that he had an affair with former White House intern Monica Lewinsky. His later revelation to the contrary resulted in lengthy impeachment proceedings that nearly cost him the presidency.
49 posted on 10/12/2003 5:34:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: q_an_a
Bump!
50 posted on 10/12/2003 5:35:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Colette Brooks, who runs an advertising agency...

Isn't this the woman who was connected to "Code Pink" here on FR?

51 posted on 10/12/2003 5:39:46 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Truth Hits Everybody)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
From the article: ~Schwarzenegger is a lucky man. The campaign was short. There was hardly time for the allegations against him to sink in. Women did what women so often do with their men. They forgave him.

Or maybe they saw the smear campaign for what it was?

52 posted on 10/12/2003 5:47:51 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I suspect the voters went with Arnold because he has a positive outlook and they finally focused on the cost of the policies implemented by Davis and his cronies on the left.

53 posted on 10/12/2003 5:57:17 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Loyal Buckeye
The writer's delusion aside; Arnold's transgressions are 1) alleged and unconfirmed, 2) very old, 3) typical and perhaps "accepted" of an unmarried Hollywood hunk. Further, Maria's support for more than 2 decades tells us that he's long ago ended his suppposed women chasing.

Jeez, no on on earth should be surprised Arnold flirted as a young man. All men tried it, just not as sucessfully as Arnold. He's now clearly a devoted family man.

The libs really are fun to watch as their power base continues to crumble.

54 posted on 10/12/2003 6:46:23 AM PDT by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Very simple answer.

Arnold is a hunk while Gray Davis looks like a caring, feeling wimp.

55 posted on 10/12/2003 6:49:16 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Be a glow worm, a glow worm's never glum, cuz how can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hasn't Ms. Melone heard of Juanita Brodderick? "Go put some ice on it, Mary Jo!"

56 posted on 10/12/2003 6:51:53 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: ambrose
Joy Browne, a psychologist and syndicated radio talk show host, remembered him running his hands along her legs while she conducted an hourlong, live interview with him < p> 60 minutes of groping a woman is just hunky dory ok - but what every man must realize is this: that 61 minutes of groping a woman on any "business type" first encounter is over the line.
57 posted on 10/12/2003 7:00:50 AM PDT by waterstraat
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
And as Mr. Universe, I still say he was more groped than groping. A good example is that UK talk show hostess. Anyone see the pics on FR? Apparently she conducts her interviews from a bed - looked like one of those double wide hospital type beds you see advertised on tv. The kind that you can adjust the foot and head.

Anyway there was a series of 3 pics. They were both fully clothed - he was - she was dressed the way women do today. Trust me she was not complaining. The most "active" they seemed to be was in one pic where he had her wrapped up in a bear hug and it appeared that they were rolling across the bed. His hands were not in inappropriate places.

Why are we conducting our interviews from a bed if we aren't trying to elicit / solicit edgy if not actually sleazy behavior? Tacky woman, tacky show.

Also, re the author of this piece - how would lib lesbians know what goes on between men and women or what is considered normal behavior anyway? Tired of these man-haters complaining because other women appreciate men - as long as the men take "no" for an answer.

She also refers to the LAT as, "the supposedly liberal paper". geez
58 posted on 10/12/2003 7:08:06 AM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Clinton's women wanted him.

Bolshevik. Clinton's wife don't even want him.

She want's his wimmin...

59 posted on 10/12/2003 7:09:38 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Writing for the Right at www.wardsmythe.com --- updated 10/11/03)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Now it looks as though the women came forward for nothing.

They certainly came forward too late ---- like a week before the election when the democrats saw from their real polling data (not what they were reporting of course) that Schwatzenegger was going to win.

60 posted on 10/12/2003 7:15:54 AM PDT by FITZ
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