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1 posted on 10/12/2003 8:28:28 AM PDT by harpu
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Sen. Robert Byrd, a West Virginia Democrat who vehemently opposed the war in Iraq, complained that the administration and its GOP allies who control Congress were rushing the multibillion-dollar package to passage.

Make Iraq a state, with Byrd as its ssenator and it would have all the porkbarrel it needed. But maybe "pork"barrel wouldn't be the politically correct term.

2 posted on 10/12/2003 8:38:34 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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3 posted on 10/12/2003 8:39:49 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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Good to read, thanks for posting it!!

Even if it serves the Administration to make that comparison, every post-war situation is unique. Germany in 1945 and Iraq in 2003 are completely different and every situation is unique. Just think that in 1945 no large group of Germans supported resistance against the allies. At least they were glad that the horrible war and Nazi regime ended... Within the first years, all they wanted was food - the (western) allied gave it and everything went fine.

Btw, the Marshall Plan actually was intended to rebuild Europe, not only Germany, and France received the largest part of the help.
4 posted on 10/12/2003 8:40:12 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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The Germans were never the medeival animals these Arabs terrorists are.

In the Middle Ages it required castles, forts and heavily fortified palaces to protect the governments from the terrorists.

The leaders and their staff had to isolate themselves from the people for fear of assassins among the people.

These Arabs know only hate and violence. They have no ambition for building a better life for themselves or their family.


5 posted on 10/12/2003 8:43:11 AM PDT by Mark Felton (Lies demonize; truths humanize.)
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As far as I know there was resistance movements against Americans 6 months after Germany and japan surrendered. However, I am not so certain about resistance against the Commies. I know nationalist Ukrainians fought against them long after the war ended and remants of the Japanese Army fought againt them for a few months.
6 posted on 10/12/2003 8:47:59 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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"Six months before, the world had cheered as the statues of the dictator came crashing down. The Americans had seemed heroic. But now things were going very badly. The occupation was chaotic, the American soldiers were hated and they were facing threats from the surviving supporters of the dictator, whose whereabouts were uncertain. "

"Washington seemed unwilling to pay the enormous bill for reconstruction, and the president didn't appear to have any kind of workable plan to manage the transition to democracy. European allies, distrustful of the arrogant American outlook, were wary of cooperating."

Doug Saunders was writing not of Iraq in September, 2003. He was writing about Germany in November 1945. His article provided something rare in the news media today: perspective
7 posted on 10/12/2003 8:51:08 AM PDT by Republican Red
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Thank you for posting this. It is good to see someone in the lamestream media taking up this subject. There are relatively few inaccuracies in this article.

For a prior take on the same subject, see my UPI article, also posted on FR, "Lessons for Iraq from General Washington, Major Andre and Der Fuhrer Adolf Hitler."

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8 posted on 10/12/2003 9:06:41 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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