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V. Gene represents modernization, path to avert "odd" Charles & Camilla-type situations
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 11/01/2003 | Kit

Posted on 11/01/2003 5:36:41 AM PST by Kit

GAY BISHOP-ELECT DRAWS CHARLES INTO CHURCH ROW By Jonathan Petre, Religious Affairs Correspondent (Filed: 01/11/2003)

On the eve of his consecration as Anglicanism's first openly homosexual bishop - an event which threatens to tear the worldwide Church apart - Bishop-elect Gene Robinson has drawn the Prince of Wales into the controversy.

He said he did not relish the argument over his election and that it was his desire that the Anglican Communion would hold together.

Gene Robinson will be consecrated as the Bishop of New Hampshire tomorrow But he told The Telegraph that the Church had to modernise its views on morality or face "odd" situations such as the Prince's relationship with his companion Camilla Parker Bowles.

He argued that the two were cohabiting rather than marrying because the rules of the Church of England stopped divorcees remarrying in church.

In fact, the Church of England relaxed its absolute prohibition last year, but it drew up guidelines which could prevent the couple being granted a church wedding.

Bishop-elect Robinson, who will be consecrated Bishop of New Hampshire tomorrow, said that the Church had been willing to change its understanding of the Bible over the centuries, and it should do so now over sexuality.

"We've reinterpreted passages about slavery and the role of women," he said. "We've gone against, absolutely against, the word of Jesus in revising our regard for divorced people who want to remarry.

"We have this very odd situation in Britain with the heir to the throne cohabiting with a woman without the benefit of marriage because the Church over which Charles is going to be head when he becomes king still does not allow remarriage in church. "In this country, we decided it was wrong to deny people Communion at a time when they need it most."

He said that the Church's traditional interpretation of homosexuality was based on passages that do not address the possibility of committed relationships.

"Sodom and Gomorrah is about homosexual rape. St Paul is talking about idolators," he said. "What we're talking about is faithful, monogamous, lifelong-intentioned relationships between people of the same sex.

"I maintain that Scripture simply does not address that issue. I'm not saying that Scripture is explicitly for it. But I don't believe they address that topic."

While distressed by the approaching schism, Bishop-elect Robinson said he was not responsible if other parts of the 70 million-strong worldwide Church decided to distance themselves from him and from the American Episcopal Church. Conservative primates, led by Archbishop Peter Akinola, the Primate of Nigeria, have said they will refuse to recognise the Episcopal Church following the consecration, threatening to plunge the Church into chaos.

"It's very difficult for me to understand how New Hampshire having its own bishop who happens to be gay affects the day-to-day life in a church in Nigeria," said Bishop-elect Robinson. "I'm sorry this puts Rowan Williams in such a difficult position," he added, referring to the dilemma of the Archbishop of Canterbury, who is struggling to keep the worldwide Church united. "I think he's done a good job getting everyone to talk and hold the Communion together."

Despite the controversy, Bishop-elect Robinson has retained staunch support in New Hampshire where people have known his ministry for decades.

"Gene is a man of character, great spirituality and depth,' said New Hampshire's retiring bishop, Douglas Theuner. "He has the ability to deal effectively with people and he has demonstrated that in the life of this diocese for 28 years."

More than 6,000 people are expected to attend tomorrow's consecration, when Bishop-elect Robinson will be flanked by his ex-wife, his two daughters and his boyfriend, Mark Andrews.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: anglican; bishop; consecration; episcopal; homsexuality; princecharles; princeofwales; schism; vgenerobinson
May God have mercy on this man's soul.
1 posted on 11/01/2003 5:36:41 AM PST by Kit
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To: Kit
"We've gone against, absolutely against, the word of Jesus in revising our regard for divorced people who want to remarry.

Eastern Orthodox church has allowed divorce for over a millenia.

"Sodom and Gomorrah is about homosexual rape. St Paul is talking about idolators," he said. "What we're talking about is faithful, monogamous, lifelong-intentioned relationships between people of the same sex.

"I maintain that Scripture simply does not address that issue. I'm not saying that Scripture is explicitly for it. But I don't believe they address that topic."

Again he is just plain wrong. This is no different than some little child screaming "la la la" loudly so that he will not hear something he does not like.

Somehow Soddom and Gomorah does not strike me as a story about a city with a high crime problem. Absudity.

This beshop2be is not only in denial, he is delusional. He is an object lesson of useful idiot for the left.

2 posted on 11/01/2003 6:16:52 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Eastern Orthodox church has allowed divorce for over a millenia

Yes. For adultery.

But they don't allow divorced men in a new relationship to become priests let alone bishops....

And if I remember correctly, the Orthodox chose bishops from the unmarried priesthood.

Biblically, pastors are only to be chosen from those married once...

3 posted on 11/01/2003 6:35:00 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politcially correct poor people.)
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To: LadyDoc
actually no.

The eclisiastical rule has been to allow for three attempts at marriage. 1. due to youth. 2. for rebound 3. getting it right. They have a list of nine basic reasons for a divorce. One of the nine is adultery.

True about the priests. You can't have a divorce on your record.

Even married can't become high rank bishops.

I know a decon who is waiting to get married before taking his final vows.

One parish I belonged to had a priest who got divorced AFTER he had been a priest.
4 posted on 11/01/2003 6:39:25 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: ahadams2
"Not sure if this is a repost -- some of it looks familiar, some doesn't" ping
5 posted on 11/01/2003 7:28:15 AM PST by Eala (FR Traditional Anglican Directory: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: Eala
also posted at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1012572/posts
6 posted on 11/01/2003 11:57:13 AM PST by ahadams2 (Anglicanism: the next reformation is beginning NOW)
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