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Exurge, Calvinisti, et judica causam tuam...
drstevej (Pope Piel I)

Posted on 12/10/2003 4:11:16 AM PST by drstevej

Exurge, Calvinisti, et judica causam tuam...

Arise (some mss read Swarm), O Calvinists, and plead your cause. The doctrines of grace are mightily assailed by those who would proclaim with their father, “I will be like the Most High.” Set forth the biblical case for a sovereign God who is jealous for His glory. Disallow through disputation (and lampooning when needed) the damnable errors of those who have refashioned the great sola doctrines into a salvation-helper gospel that exalts the fallen will of man.

From every corner, in every thread exalt the right of God to do whatsoever He pleaseth. Be not dismayed by persistent anthropocentric rantings. Blessed are you when they revile you for the sake of the truth. Happy are ye when the Servetus card is played and the strawmen are paraded before you for He who is enthroned in heaven reigns.

– Pope Piel I, Thread Pope


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At the noble suggestion of my Minister of Diplomacy, Orthodox Presbyterian, this thread serves as a place for Calvinists to register for inclusion in the of the Great Reformed Ping List. The official GRPL will be maintained by Orthodox Presbyterian with the assistance of our distinguished archivist, CC Woody.

The thread also welcomes members of the GRPL to post favorite grace oriented historical quotes from those who have swarmed before us.

Application for inclusion in the GRPL should be accompanied by a suitable historical quote.

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"These, these are the precious truths, which a scoffing world would fain rally or ridicule us out of. To produce this glorious change, this new creation, the glorious Jesus left his Father's bosom. For this he led a persecuted life; for this he died an ignominious and accursed death; for this he rose again; and for this he now sitteth at the right hand of his Father. All the precepts of his gospel, all his ordinances, all his providences, whether of an afflictive or prosperous nature, all divine revelation from the beginning to the end, all center in these two points, to show us how we are fallen, and to begin, early on, and complete a glorious and blessed change in our souls. This is an end worthy of the coming of so divine a personage. To deliver a multitude of souls of every nation, language and tongue, from so many moral evils, and to reinstate them in an incomparably more excellent condition than that from whence they are fallen, is an end worthy the shedding of such precious blood. What system of religion is there now, or was there ever exhibited to the world, any way to be compared to this?"

- George Whitefield, "The Potter and the Clay"

1 posted on 12/10/2003 4:11:18 AM PST by drstevej
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To: Jean Chauvin; Wrigley; RnMomof7; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; nobdysfool; Dr. Eckleburg; rdb3; jude24; ...
Great Reformed Ping List Announcement.

Spread the word.
2 posted on 12/10/2003 4:23:46 AM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej
Count this as my application to the Great Reformed Bump List.


Lord's Day 1 (Q & A 1 2)
Lord's Day 1
Q & A 1

Q. What is your only comfort
in life and in death?

A. That I am not my own,^1
but belong—
body and soul,
in life and in death—^2
to my faithful Savior Jesus Christ.^3

He has fully paid for all my sins with his precious blood,^4
and has set me free from the tyranny of the devil.^5
He also watches over me in such a way^6
that not a hair can fall from my head
without the will of my Father in heaven:^7
in fact, all things must work together for my salvation.^8

Because I belong to him,
Christ, by his Holy Spirit,
assures me of eternal life^9
and makes me wholeheartedly willing and ready
from now on to live for him.^10

^1 1 Cor. 6:19-20
^2 Rom. 14:7-9
^3 1 Cor. 3:23; Titus 2:14
^4 1 Pet. 1:18-19; 1 John 1:7-9; 2:2
^5 John 8:34-36; Heb. 2:14-15; 1 John 3:1-11
^6 John 6:39-40; 10:27-30; 2 Thess. 3:3; 1 Pet. 1:5
^7 Matt. 10:29-31; Luke 21:16-18
^8 Rom. 8:28
^9 Rom. 8:15-16; 2 Cor. 1:21-22; 5:5; Eph. 1:13-14
^10 Rom. 8:1-17

Q & A 2

Q. What must you know
to live and die in the joy of this comfort?

A. Three things:
first, how great my sin and misery are;^1
second, how I am set free from all my sins and misery;^2
third, how I am to thank God for such deliverance.^3

^1 Rom. 3:9-10; 1 John 1:10
^2 John 17:3; Acts 4:12; 10:43
^3 Matt. 5:16; Rom. 6:13; Eph. 5:8-10; 2 Tim. 2:15; 1 Pet. 2:9-10

3 posted on 12/10/2003 4:24:53 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: Gamecock; lockeliberty; RochesterFan
Great Reformed Ping List Announcement.

Exurge, Calvinisti,

et judica causam tuam...

4 posted on 12/10/2003 4:30:59 AM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej
Sign me up!

"If any man ascribes anything of salvation, even the very least thing, to the free will of man, he knows nothing of grace, and he has not learned Jesus Christ rightly."

Luther
5 posted on 12/10/2003 4:41:49 AM PST by Gamecock (Nothing but happy controversy free posts from me!)
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To: drstevej
Count me in.

The Doctrine of God's Providence

We believe that this good God,
after he created all things,
did not abandon them to chance or fortune
but leads and governs them
according to his holy will,
in such a way that nothing happens in this world
without his orderly arrangement.

Yet God is not the author of,
nor can he be charged with,
the sin that occurs.
For his power and goodness
are so great and incomprehensible
that he arranges and does his work very well and justly
even when the devils and wicked men act unjustly.
We do not wish to inquire
with undue curiosity
into what he does that surpasses human understanding
and is beyond our ability to comprehend.
But in all humility and reverence
we adore the just judgments of God,
which are hidden from us,
being content to be Christ's disciples,
so as to learn only what he shows us in his Word,
without going beyond those limits.

This doctrine gives us unspeakable comfort
since it teaches us
that nothing can happen to us by chance
but only by the arrangement of our gracious
heavenly Father.
He watches over us with fatherly care,
keeping all creatures under his control,
so that not one of the hairs on our heads
(for they are all numbered)
nor even a little bird
can fall to the ground20
without the will of our Father.

In this thought we rest,
knowing that he holds in check
the devils and all our enemies,
who cannot hurt us
without his permission and will.

For that reason we reject
the damnable error of the Epicureans,
who say that God involves himself in nothing
and leaves everything to chance.

20 Matt. 10:29-30

-from Article 13 of the Belgic Confession of 1561 written by Guido de Bres

Discussed here on F.R.

Jean

6 posted on 12/10/2003 4:54:37 AM PST by Jean Chauvin (Sola Scriptura---Sola Fida---Sola Gracia---Sola Christus---Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: drstevej
Count me in!

John 6:36-38
But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me.

-Jesus, the First Cause and the first Calvinist


7 posted on 12/10/2003 6:21:37 AM PST by jboot (Faith is not a work; swarming, however, is.)
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To: drstevej
I'm in:
"From my childhood up, my mind had been full of objections against the doctrine of God's sovereignty in choosing whom He would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased. But I remember the time very well, when I seemed to be convinced, and fully satisfied, as to the sovereignty of God. I have often since, had not only a conviction, but a delightful conviction. The doctrine has very often appeared exceeding pleasant, bright, and sweet. Absolute sovereignty is what I love to ascribe to God. But my first conviction was not so."
-- Jonathan Edwards, Personal Narrative

8 posted on 12/10/2003 6:38:06 AM PST by jude24 ("Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything thats even REMOTELY true!" -- H. Simpson)
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To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; RnMomof7
The official GRPL will be maintained by Orthodox Presbyterian with the assistance of our distinguished archivist, CC Woody. ~ drstevej Woody.
9 posted on 12/10/2003 6:49:13 AM PST by CCWoody (Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...)
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To: drstevej
"May the Lord grant that we may engage in contemplating the mysteries of His heavenly wisdom with increasing devotion, to His glory and our edification."
John Calvin
Prayer before his lectures
10 posted on 12/10/2003 7:33:31 AM PST by AZhardliner ((PCA Pastor, Chaplain))
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To: drstevej
The following was orinially applied to 20th century liberalism, but it can also be applied to present day evangelicalism:
"A God without wrath, brought men without sin, into a kingdom without judgment, through a Christ without a cross"
H. Richard Niebuhr
(Please, I know who he was, but his observation was 100% on target.)

Add me to the list, ping on!
11 posted on 12/10/2003 7:42:14 AM PST by AZhardliner ((PCA Pastor, Chaplain))
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To: drstevej
Ping me, steverino...
12 posted on 12/10/2003 8:06:10 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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To: drstevej
bump
13 posted on 12/10/2003 9:14:37 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Alex Murphy
Ahem....

Note Post #1 - Application for inclusion in the GRPL should be accompanied by a suitable historical quote.

Application pending.....
14 posted on 12/10/2003 9:21:03 AM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej
I can think of two...

"These two world views [Christian theist vs naturalist, impersonal matter or energy shaped by impersonal chance] stand as totals in complete antithesis to each other in content and also in their natural results--including sociological and governmental results, and specifically including law.
It is not that these two world views are different only in how they understand the nature of reality and existence. They also inevitably produce totally different results. The operative word here is inevitably. It is not just that they happen to produce different results, but it is absolutely inevitable that they will bring forth different results."
--Francis A. Schaeffer, A Christian Manifesto, page 2.

"It would be easy to show that at our present rate of progress the kingdoms of this world never could become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ. Indeed, many in the Church are giving up the idea of it except on the occasion of the advent of Christ, which, as it chimes in with our own idleness, is likely to be a popular doctrine. I myself believe that King Jesus will reign, and the idols be utterly abolished; but I expect the same power which turned the world upside down once will still continue to do it. The Holy Ghost will never suffer the imputation to rest upon His holy name that He was not able to convert the world."
--Charles Haddon Spurgeon

15 posted on 12/10/2003 10:08:29 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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To: drstevej
The doctrines of grace are mightily assailed by those who would proclaim with their father, “I will be like the Most High.”

Anyone that calls himself Pope Piel must be an authority on the subject.:) Thou almost persuadeth me to be a Mormon....

16 posted on 12/10/2003 10:25:03 AM PST by xJones
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To: Alex Murphy
***I can think of two... ***

Cool, an additional quote for pennance. Nice touch.
-Pope Piel, Thread Pope
17 posted on 12/10/2003 10:37:01 AM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej
From every corner, in every thread exalt the right of God to do whatsoever He pleaseth.

Nah, sounds to much like a "work" to me.....

18 posted on 12/10/2003 10:53:43 AM PST by NeoCaveman (who the F is John Kerry?)
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To: dubyaismypresident
We are looking for a token Jansenist for our list. Know any?
19 posted on 12/10/2003 11:06:46 AM PST by drstevej
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To: xJones
***Thou almost persuadeth me to be a Mormon....***

Take a Rolaids and that bosom flare up will be all gone.
20 posted on 12/10/2003 11:08:13 AM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej
We are looking for a token Jansenist for our list. Know any?

Wouldn't know one if I tripped over one.

21 posted on 12/10/2003 11:19:56 AM PST by NeoCaveman (who the F is John Kerry?)
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To: drstevej; oldcodger; LiteKeeper; scandalon; Joshua; nobdysfool; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Jerry_M; ...
A bump to my list
22 posted on 12/10/2003 11:29:21 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Deut7:7)
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To: drstevej
Take a Rolaids and that bosom flare up will be all gone.

Thanks. With the Rolaids, the burning in the bosom went 'down' all right, but someone flicked a bic afterwards and the water cooler got torched.

23 posted on 12/10/2003 11:29:34 AM PST by xJones (IMove over, Servetus)
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To: RnMomof7
Lately the most interesting thing about debating predestination with people is the spirit or attitude of their response. When people start blathering during a discussion on Christian doctrine, that tells me a lot about that person and their understanding of Christian doctrine.
24 posted on 12/10/2003 11:36:33 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: biblewonk
Lately the most interesting thing about debating predestination with people is the spirit or attitude of their response. When people start blathering during a discussion on Christian doctrine, that tells me a lot about that person and their understanding of Christian doctrine.

Unfortunately very few Christians know any doctrine. Think what most learn in Sunday School? It is not doctrine

25 posted on 12/10/2003 11:45:29 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Deut7:7)
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To: drstevej
If you accept token Jansenists, would you want five point Calvinists like John MacArthur or the late Dr. S. Lewis Johnson, who hold to dispensational eschatology? How about Calvinistic Baptists like C. Haddon Spurgeon or Dr. Alfred Mohler?
26 posted on 12/10/2003 11:56:47 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: drstevej
"A man is not saved against his will, but he is made willing by the operation of the Holy Ghost. A mighty grace which he does not wish to resist enters into the man, disarms him, makes a new creature of him, and he is saved." --Charles Spurgeon

Add me please.

27 posted on 12/10/2003 12:00:23 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: RnMomof7
You should have heard the Methodist commercial I heard this morning on TV. It showed a woman stairing out a window as if thinking about her lover or husband. There was a romantic male voice saying "I love you, I have loved you since before you were borne bla bla love bla bla love something something, .... Love God".

With modification the commercial would have had some truth but the tone was romance and a single woman. It was gross.

28 posted on 12/10/2003 12:12:03 PM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: biblewonk
Barney Theology: I Love you, You Love Me...."


It's bad enough that I hear it with my toddler all day long, but worse when Christians apply it as the primary character of God.
29 posted on 12/10/2003 12:28:26 PM PST by Gamecock (Nothing but happy controversy free posts from me!)
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To: Wallace T.
***would you want five point Calvinists like John MacArthur or the late Dr. S. Lewis Johnson, who hold to dispensational eschatology?***

While this list consists of FR folk, those four are within the scope of our menagerie. Yours truly is a credo-baptist, classic dispensationalist who studied under Dr. S.L. Johnson*. The term "Reformed" in this ping list references the doctrines of grace rather than other Reformed tenets. For full disclosure, I am an Amyrauldian (T-U-_-I-P Calvinist) and also the favorite of several here to be the next Pope. (see my profile page)

==
*BTW, I am one of two people I know who holds degrees from both Dallas and Westminster Seminaries. The other is currently an OPC pastor.
30 posted on 12/10/2003 12:31:46 PM PST by drstevej
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To: biblewonk
With modification the commercial would have had some truth but the tone was romance and a single woman. It was gross.

I don't watch television so I don't know about the ad, but did they use Fabio's voice as 'God'? It would have been perfect.

31 posted on 12/10/2003 12:33:18 PM PST by Dr Warmoose
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Great Reformed Ping List - Update
• Drstevej, Thread Pope
• Orthodox Presbyterian, Minister of Diplomacy
• CC Woody, Archivist
• Wrigley
• Gamecock
• Jean Chauvin
• jboot
• jude24
• Azhardliner
• Alex Murphy
• A.J. Armitage
32 posted on 12/10/2003 12:41:40 PM PST by drstevej
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To: Wallace T.
Wallace, this post will give a bit of the background to this list...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/947869/posts?page=432#432
33 posted on 12/10/2003 12:43:53 PM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej
Add me to the GRPL

"I am not ignorant that, as the Israelites loathed the manna, because that every day they saw and ate but one thing, so there are some now-a-days (who will not be held of the worst sort) that, after once reading some parcels of the scripture, do commit [turn] themselves altogether to profane authors and human lectures, because the variety of matters therein contained does bring with it a daily delectation, where contrariwise, within the simple scriptures of God, the perpetual repetition of a thing is fashious [tiresome] and wearisome. This temptation, I confess, may enter into God's very elect for a time; but it is impossible that they continue therein to the end; for God's election, besides other evident signs, has this ever joined with it, that God's elect are called from ignorance (I speak of those that are come to the years of knowledge), to some taste and feeling of God's mercy, of the which they are never satisfied in this life, but from time to time they hunger to eat the bread that descended from heaven, and they thirst to drink the water that springs to life everlasting, which they cannot do but by the means of faith ­ and faith looks ever to the will of God revealed by his word, so that faith has both her beginning and continuance by the word of God. And so I say that it is impossible that God's chosen children can despise or reject the word of their salvation of any long continuance, neither yet loathe it to the end. "

John Knox 1556 excerpt from A Letter of Wholesome Counsel,
Addressed to His Brethren in Scotland
34 posted on 12/10/2003 12:45:53 PM PST by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:)
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To: Wallace T.
also...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/947869/posts?page=547#547
35 posted on 12/10/2003 12:46:44 PM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody
Homer Simpson, member of the Springfield Presbyterian Church, on God:

"Oh, He's always happy...No, wait! He's always mad."

http://www.snpp.com/other/articles/dohdeity.html
36 posted on 12/10/2003 12:58:36 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr Warmoose
I don't watch television so I don't know about the ad, but did they use Fabio's voice as 'God'? It would have been perfect.

I don't know. I was eating breakfast and not watching but the sound was oozing romance.

37 posted on 12/10/2003 1:01:28 PM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: drstevej
"Works, works! a man gets to heaven by works! I would as soon think of climbing to the moon on a rope of sand." - George Whitefield, last sermon

"Add me to the list you must. Yeeesssss...mmmm hmmmm hmmm"

38 posted on 12/10/2003 1:04:22 PM PST by Frumanchu (mene mene tekel upharsin)
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To: Gamecock
Not that God doesn't love us but there are different kinds of love. If I loved my daughter the way I love my wife, I'd go to jail. Those lines shouldn't be crossed but they sure were in this commercial.
39 posted on 12/10/2003 1:09:14 PM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: biblewonk
My point is that modern Christians ignore the number one attribute of God. We push that attribute into a dark corner because it is what will be the undoing of the unelect. It is such an uncomfortable trait that even the elect at times cringe when it is considered in it's rightful context.

What is that trait?

HOLINESS
40 posted on 12/10/2003 1:16:30 PM PST by Gamecock (Nothing but happy controversy free posts from me!)
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To: Gamecock
What makes you say that is His number one trait?

There is a verse that says God is love but not one that says God is holiness.

41 posted on 12/10/2003 1:42:22 PM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: biblewonk
There is a verse that says God is love but not one that says God is holiness.

Depends on whether you're reading it as a verb or a noun.

Leviticus 11:44, cited in 1 Peter 1:16:
"You shall be holy, for I am holy"

42 posted on 12/10/2003 2:11:09 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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To: RnMomof7
Thanks for the ping, RnMomof7.

Add me to the list.

Salvation by grace, through faith is not of ourselves in the sense of being the result of our own power. We are bound to view salvation as being as surely a divine act as creation, or providence, or resurrection. At every point of the process of salvation this word is appropriate--"not of yourselves." From the first desire after it to the full reception of it by faith, it is evermore of the Lord alone, and not of ourselves. The man believes, but that belief is only one result among many of the implantation of divine life within the man's soul by God Himself.
C.H. Spurgeon, sermon "All of Grace", Oct. 7, 1915

43 posted on 12/10/2003 2:34:15 PM PST by oldcodger
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To: Alex Murphy; biblewonk
Isaiah 6:5 - Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.
44 posted on 12/10/2003 2:36:20 PM PST by opus86
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To: drstevej
If God was able to subdue your will and win your heart, and that without interfering with your moral responsibility, then is He not able to do the same for others? Assuredly He is. Then how inconsistent, how illogical, how foolish of you, in seeking to account for the present course of the wicked and their ultimate fate, to argue that God is unable to save them, that they will not let Him. A.W. Pink - The Sovereignty of God


Please, oh, please include me!!!
45 posted on 12/10/2003 3:52:13 PM PST by irishtenor (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati ............(When all else fails, play dead))
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To: irishtenor
***Please, oh, please include me!!!***

Tickled Pink to do so.
46 posted on 12/10/2003 4:01:19 PM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej
I am in.

"Man is nothing: he hath a free will to go to hell, but none to go to heaven, till God worketh in him to will and to do his good pleasure."
GEORGE WHITEFIELD TO JOHN WESLEY
47 posted on 12/10/2003 4:26:54 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: rwfromkansas
Great Reformed Ping List - Update
• Drstevej, Thread Pope
• Orthodox Presbyterian, Minister of Diplomacy
• CC Woody, Archivist
• Wrigley
• Gamecock
• Jean Chauvin
• jboot
• jude24
• Azhardliner
• Alex Murphy
• A.J. Armitage
• 4Godsoloved..Hegave
• Frumanchu
• oldcoger
• irishtenor
• rwfromkansas

 

48 posted on 12/10/2003 4:31:19 PM PST by drstevej
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To: jboot
First Cause...I see you got some philosophy tossed in there (Is that Aquinas?)
49 posted on 12/10/2003 4:31:54 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: drstevej
***Great Reformed Ping List ***

Otherwise known as "The Swarm".
50 posted on 12/10/2003 4:34:20 PM PST by irishtenor (If animals weren't meant to be eaten, why did God make them out of meat?)
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