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1 posted on 12/22/2003 6:19:38 AM PST by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
*"We worked really hard on our liturgy," said Imms, who has been laying her stole at the cross in recent weeks.*

Her stole??? Who gave it to her, for what purpose was it given, when - where - and why was it given? As for tieing stoles aroung the base of the crucifix, the pastor should deal with this immediately.

If these women want to be ordained as ministers, they should look elsewhere. As the pope has repeatedly said, it won't happen in the catholic church.

2 posted on 12/22/2003 6:26:18 AM PST by NYer (Keep CHRIST in Christmas!)
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**"extraordinary ministers of holy communion."**

Or doesn't the GIRM also say 'Extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers'?
3 posted on 12/22/2003 6:51:40 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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"I've always had the feeling that it's not my liturgy to change," he said. "It belongs to the whole [worldwide] community of the church."


As I have said before. One can go into a McDonald's anywhere in America and know what one is getting. The same is not true of Catholic Churches. You never know what brand of dissent you will be force fed.
5 posted on 12/22/2003 7:11:09 AM PST by johnb2004
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"Longstanding practice"....of the EEM's re-distributing hosts and re-pouring the Blood...

Compared to what? The "longstanding practice" of the Tridentine Rite? Geez, now 10 years is a "longstanding" term.
8 posted on 12/22/2003 8:07:28 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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This article is so full of ridiculous nuggets. I love it!

At St. Vincent's, for example, Rosengarten and other eucharistic ministers used to break the communion bread at the altar alongside the priest, and pour the consecrated wine into chalices for distribution.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a liturgical abuse--something never sanctioned by the Vatican or by the Archbishop of Philadelphia. Thus, it is an innovation that they themselves have imposed upon the Mass. I hope Cardinal Rigali cracks down on parishes like this in a big way.

"The image we wanted was of the table being prepared by members of the assembly and the presider, who are one," Rosengarten explained.

Presider? Good gravy! Can't you people even say the word "priest"?!

But because the new instruction restricts the breaking and pouring to the priest, Mackle has advised St. Vincent's that it must conform.

Oh, cry me a river. It's like they're demanding that these folks donate a kidney or something.

A few even wept when the parish made the changes.

Changes? What changes? The "changes" were made by these liturgical terrorists. The Vatican is insisting that they now abide by the rules.

About 25 members of the parish have begun protesting the Vatican's changes by wrapping purple stoles, or scarves, at the base of the sanctuary cross after communion.

Good for them. The priest should read them the riot act. There are plenty of perfectly good Protestant churches for these bozos to seek out and attempt to coopt.

For three years, feminists at St. Vincent's had been wearing the stoles to Mass

Funny, I thought one was supposed to cease being a "feminist" once they entered church. Clearly, these radicals put being a "feminist" ahead of being a Catholic. They should be removed from any position of authority they hold in the parish immediately.

Support for women's ordination runs high at St. Vincent's,

So the pastor there has raised up a nice crop of dissenters. Good for him. I hope the Cardinal read this article and takes the appropriate action.

"We worked really hard on our liturgy," said Imms, who has been laying her stole at the cross in recent weeks.

It's not "your liturgy," lady.

The scary thing is, I think this Pat Imms person might be a French/Spanish teacher I had in my Catholic grade school right up the road from Germantown. She'd have to be about 70 years old by now ... which is the right age for the blue-haired radical set.

Viva il Papa! Viva the new GIRM! If it's making the AmChurch radicals weep, it is indeed a great thing.
11 posted on 12/22/2003 11:25:59 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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"The image we wanted was of the table being prepared by members of the assembly and the presider, who are one," Rosengarten explained.

It is exactly the wackos above who SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED to become an EM in the first place. Notice the wording - image ("we wanted"), table, assembly and presider all in one sentence! Just love how these people want to whole Mass to evolve around them!

14 posted on 12/22/2003 1:13:56 PM PST by Gerish
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