Bishop: No Communion for Abortion Backers

AP ^ | 1/8/04 | AP

[Barnacle]

Well, I hope he'll take his crusade with him down the Mississip.

[Aquinasfan]

I thought abortion isn't even permissible under those circumstances (the life of the mother)?

I'm pretty sure that the principle of double-effect applies, where a single action results in two effects. If the secondary effect is "less evil" than the primary effect, then the action is permissible.

So in an ectopic pregnancy, for example, the primary action of removing the baby saves the mother's life but also results in the secondary effect of killng the baby. In this case the secondary effect is "the same or less evil" than the primary action.

The mother may choose to give her life for her child in some cases (as when a mother has uterine cancer, for example). But I don't think this is necessary. It would certainly be an example of heroic virtue.

[Aquinasfan]

Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html

I just found this yesterday. Great resource!

[Aquinasfan]

Thanks for the info!

Why do I have the feeling that the media is going to mangle this?

[Desdemona]

See, this is the little thing I was worried about. There are very few Catholic politicians here at odds with the church on these topics.

I know I am at odds with people on this board over the ay some of this is handled. DOn't get me wrong, I agree with Archbishop Burke, but when it comes to St. Louis, Neumann is right. Things are a little different around here when it comes to discourse.

[Desdemona]

The mother may choose to give her life for her child in some cases (as when a mother has uterine cancer, for example). But I don't think this is necessary.

And some brain tumors. I knew a woman who did this. Her baby died, too. It was unbelievably sad. She knew the risks long before she got pregnant, too.

[Salvation]

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[xzins]

Great courage on the part of the Bishop.

I wonder if the wolves will leave the flock now that they've been exposed?

[Salvation]

**Bishop Burke has also made the Ignatius Press catechetical series mandatory in all LaCrosse schools.**

Then I am assuming that this is a good, no, great catechetical series! Any more information!

[Salvation]

Have you read Eccliastes Chapter 3 lately?

[Salvation]

**politicians who support the war in Iraq**

How long has it been since you have read Eccliastes, Chapter 3?

[Salvation]

Maybe we need to start petitioning our Bishops for this better catechetical series!

[areafiftyone]

Posted yesterday Here

This Bishop has guts!! God Bless him!!

[Salvation]

I think you will also find these(Catholics and Politicians) articles interesting:

The Deadly Dozen

Canadian Prime Minister Taunts Church: "I Am A Catholic And For Abortion"
Catholic Church asks Tom Daschle to stop calling himself a Catholic
On Catholic Politicians and Faith
Vatican Urges Catholic Politicians to Vote Along Church Lines
Senator Santorum on Being Catholic and a Politician
William E. Simon, Sr. and Jr. Devout Catholics, Philanthropists and Politicians
Deadly Dozen senator taken to task over claims of Catholicism
THE BISHOP AND THE SENATOR [author links to FR thread regarding Daschle in her online column]
Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians
MI Gov Granholm Proclaims June "Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Month"
Colorado Governor To Media:'WE LOVE OUR CHURCH' [Gov. Bill Owens
U.S. Senator Brownback and Commentator Dick Morris Join Catholic Church
PRIEST REFUSES COMMUNION TO KNEELING PRO-LIFE POLITICIAN [Richard Black, Virginia]
Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights
Pope to MPs: Stop gay marriage
Vatican - Considerations regarding ... homosexual persons
CONFUSIONS ABOUT POLITICAL JUDGMENT AND THE MORAL LAW
Prelate says politicians who back abortion shouldn't go to Communion
Bishop draws fire for targeting Chrétien
Kennedy likens Vatican stance on gay unions to 'bigotry' (oh, go get a job, you little creep)
Ignorance or Malicious Intent? "No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to..."
George Weigel on Authentic Catholic Citizenship, and the Duty of Catholic Politicians to Behave as Catholics
Conservative Catholics urge Church to challenge "dissenters"
[Robert F., Jr.] Kennedy to speak at Festival of Faiths (Environmentalism as religion)
Faithful Catholic Politicians
Catholic Bishops Eye Possible Crackdown of Pro-Abortion Pols
PETITION TO EX-COMMUNICATE PRO-ABORTION CATHOLIC ELECTED OFFICIALS
It is Time to Excommunicate the Politicians
Church vows to fight gay marriage: Catholics pressure pols
Should politicians toe their church line?
Church May Penalize Politicans
Catholic politicians facing dogmatic threat
Bishop appeals to Catholic lawmakers [Wisconsin]
New St. Louis Catholic Archbishop Warns Pro-Abortion Catholic Politicians of Excommunication.
Bishop Objected to AIDS Walk
Wisconsin Catholic Lawmakers Seek Victim Status In Feud With Bishop
Bishop Burke discusses the letters he sent to Catholic politicians
Congressman Places Internal Pro-Abortion Docs in Congressional Record
Flynn: Dems ignore Catholics
Granholm gay rights order "a slap in the face"
Calif. Bishop To Gov. Davis: Pick Abortion Or Communion [formal excommunication?]
California Bishop to Gov: Oppose Abortion or No Communion (New Title)
Sacramento Bishop Challenges Governor on Abortion; Tells Davis to Stop Receiving Communion
Granholm's Bible-thumping Sure to Rile GOP
Bishop: No Communion for Abortion Backers

[JohnnyZ]

It's great that the bishop is taking this action against abortion advocates, but how long will it be before the libs demand that the same action be taken against Catholic governors who sign death warrants?

That's like hamburgers and corn flakes. No comparison. It is the constant teaching of the Church that the government has the right to administer the death penalty. It is the judgement of the Pope and many bishops that the government should refrain from exercising this right when life without parole is sufficient to protect society.

Oh, the libs will demand lots of stuff. They'll demand anyone who doesn't raise taxes should be denied communion. But they ain't gonna get it. This is for black and white issues.

[Salvation]

Thanks for pointing this out!

[Andyman]

State Sen. Julie Lassa, a Democrat, received a letter from Burke and has said she would not let religion decide how she serves her constituents.

Now here is someone dedicated to their faith! Good riddance.

[eastsider]

I note that the decree is dated 6 weeks ago. I'd love to have heard the discussions over Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners at the politicians' houses. : )

[ninenot]

I wonder if the wolves will leave the flock now that they've been exposed?

Nope. Remember that politicians are egoists; they will re-appear at Catholic churches just as if nothing ever happened.

Now it's up to the parish pastors to handle them.

[Aquinasfan]

And some brain tumors. I knew a woman who did this. Her baby died, too. It was unbelievably sad. She knew the risks long before she got pregnant, too.

Wow. I wish I had that courage. I'm sure her reward in heaven will be great. God love her.