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Bishop: No Communion for Abortion Backers
AP ^ | 1/8/04 | AP

Posted on 01/08/2004 5:39:03 PM PST by Jaded

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To: k omalley
**politicians who support the war in Iraq**

How long has it been since you have read Eccliastes, Chapter 3?
51 posted on 01/09/2004 9:01:27 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: american colleen
Maybe we need to start petitioning our Bishops for this better catechetical series!
52 posted on 01/09/2004 9:02:39 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Jaded
Posted yesterday Here

This Bishop has guts!! God Bless him!!

53 posted on 01/09/2004 9:03:41 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: All
I think you will also find these(Catholics and Politicians) articles interesting:

The Deadly Dozen

Canadian Prime Minister Taunts Church: "I Am A Catholic And For Abortion"
Catholic Church asks Tom Daschle to stop calling himself a Catholic
On Catholic Politicians and Faith
Vatican Urges Catholic Politicians to Vote Along Church Lines
Senator Santorum on Being Catholic and a Politician
William E. Simon, Sr. and Jr. Devout Catholics, Philanthropists and Politicians
Deadly Dozen senator taken to task over claims of Catholicism
THE BISHOP AND THE SENATOR [author links to FR thread regarding Daschle in her online column]
Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians
MI Gov Granholm Proclaims June "Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Month"
Colorado Governor To Media:'WE LOVE OUR CHURCH' [Gov. Bill Owens
U.S. Senator Brownback and Commentator Dick Morris Join Catholic Church
PRIEST REFUSES COMMUNION TO KNEELING PRO-LIFE POLITICIAN [Richard Black, Virginia]
Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights
Pope to MPs: Stop gay marriage
Vatican - Considerations regarding ... homosexual persons
CONFUSIONS ABOUT POLITICAL JUDGMENT AND THE MORAL LAW
Prelate says politicians who back abortion shouldn't go to Communion
Bishop draws fire for targeting Chrétien
Kennedy likens Vatican stance on gay unions to 'bigotry' (oh, go get a job, you little creep)
Ignorance or Malicious Intent? "No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to..."
George Weigel on Authentic Catholic Citizenship, and the Duty of Catholic Politicians to Behave as Catholics
Conservative Catholics urge Church to challenge "dissenters"
[Robert F., Jr.] Kennedy to speak at Festival of Faiths (Environmentalism as religion)
Faithful Catholic Politicians
Catholic Bishops Eye Possible Crackdown of Pro-Abortion Pols
PETITION TO EX-COMMUNICATE PRO-ABORTION CATHOLIC ELECTED OFFICIALS
It is Time to Excommunicate the Politicians
Church vows to fight gay marriage: Catholics pressure pols
Should politicians toe their church line?
Church May Penalize Politicans
Catholic politicians facing dogmatic threat
Bishop appeals to Catholic lawmakers [Wisconsin]
New St. Louis Catholic Archbishop Warns Pro-Abortion Catholic Politicians of Excommunication.
Bishop Objected to AIDS Walk
Wisconsin Catholic Lawmakers Seek Victim Status In Feud With Bishop
Bishop Burke discusses the letters he sent to Catholic politicians
Congressman Places Internal Pro-Abortion Docs in Congressional Record
Flynn: Dems ignore Catholics
Granholm gay rights order "a slap in the face"
Calif. Bishop To Gov. Davis: Pick Abortion Or Communion [formal excommunication?]
California Bishop to Gov: Oppose Abortion or No Communion (New Title)
Sacramento Bishop Challenges Governor on Abortion; Tells Davis to Stop Receiving Communion
Granholm's Bible-thumping Sure to Rile GOP
Bishop: No Communion for Abortion Backers

54 posted on 01/09/2004 9:05:48 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: bobjam
It's great that the bishop is taking this action against abortion advocates, but how long will it be before the libs demand that the same action be taken against Catholic governors who sign death warrants?

That's like hamburgers and corn flakes. No comparison. It is the constant teaching of the Church that the government has the right to administer the death penalty. It is the judgement of the Pope and many bishops that the government should refrain from exercising this right when life without parole is sufficient to protect society.

Oh, the libs will demand lots of stuff. They'll demand anyone who doesn't raise taxes should be denied communion. But they ain't gonna get it. This is for black and white issues.

55 posted on 01/09/2004 9:10:33 AM PST by JohnnyZ (I pity the fool who thinks Bush's proposal is the same as amnesty!)
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To: areafiftyone
Thanks for pointing this out!
56 posted on 01/09/2004 9:30:04 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Jaded
State Sen. Julie Lassa, a Democrat, received a letter from Burke and has said she would not let religion decide how she serves her constituents.

Now here is someone dedicated to their faith! Good riddance.

57 posted on 01/09/2004 9:38:53 AM PST by Andyman
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To: Aquinasfan
I note that the decree is dated 6 weeks ago. I'd love to have heard the discussions over Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners at the politicians' houses. : )
58 posted on 01/09/2004 9:53:57 AM PST by eastsider
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To: xzins
I wonder if the wolves will leave the flock now that they've been exposed?

Nope. Remember that politicians are egoists; they will re-appear at Catholic churches just as if nothing ever happened.

Now it's up to the parish pastors to handle them.

59 posted on 01/09/2004 9:58:30 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: Desdemona
And some brain tumors. I knew a woman who did this. Her baby died, too. It was unbelievably sad. She knew the risks long before she got pregnant, too.

Wow. I wish I had that courage. I'm sure her reward in heaven will be great. God love her.

60 posted on 01/09/2004 10:30:50 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Salvation
Thanks for posting the Catholic pols articles. It'll come in handy.
61 posted on 01/09/2004 10:42:20 AM PST by old and tired
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To: JohnnyZ
Oh, the libs will demand lots of stuff. They'll demand anyone who doesn't raise taxes should be denied communion.

Well, that's just the sort of idiocy that'll be fun to watch...

62 posted on 01/09/2004 10:48:23 AM PST by old and tired
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To: Jaded
:-}
63 posted on 01/09/2004 10:50:40 AM PST by tiki
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To: Barnacle
Well, I hope he'll take his crusade with him down the Mississip.

With stops in Dubuque and Davenport along the way.

64 posted on 01/09/2004 11:14:15 AM PST by conservonator (To be Catholic is to enjoy the fullness of Christian faith.)
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To: Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona
Ignatius Press Catechism Series

Above is the link to the Iggy Press series. It was one of very few to pass muster with the recent USCCB committe on catechetical materials. For complete list see link below.

Ignatius Press does not have a series for high schoolers, but Ave Maria Press (the Tom Monaghan gang) does. For a list of approved texts see:

List of Approved Catechetical Texts (PDF file)

65 posted on 01/09/2004 11:16:04 AM PST by pseudo-justin
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To: Desdemona
it's going to set up an us vs. them adversarial relationship with a few orders and parishes. And the press will play it up, too.

That's just the sort of thing that scares me. I've wanted for so long these bishops to do something (anything?) and now that some are finally starting to take concrete action, I genuinely fear an actual schism. Not that there isn't already a de facto one, I guess.

66 posted on 01/09/2004 11:23:08 AM PST by old and tired
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To: Salvation
God bless this bishop! I pray his attitude is contagious.
67 posted on 01/09/2004 12:20:37 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Land of the Free 04; k omalley
Thank you for making that point. It is a widespread misunderstanding perpetuated by the news media that the Pope "condemned" the war in Iraq or declared it "unjust". He did NOT do so. Some high-ranking Vatican officials gave their opinions, but that was not the definitive church viewpoint. I was so confused by the media misrepresentation on this, and discovered the best way to get to the truth is to read the words of the Holy Father himself. His Aposotolic notice on the war is on the Holy See's website: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/
68 posted on 01/09/2004 12:22:31 PM PST by enuu
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To: enuu
Which document are you trying to link?
69 posted on 01/09/2004 12:37:17 PM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: conservonator
If there is any way to get from the Mississippi to the James then send him that way too, to the diocese of Richmond. I don't live there anymore but I think they could use some help.
70 posted on 01/09/2004 1:08:43 PM PST by k omalley
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; ...
ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

71 posted on 01/09/2004 1:18:21 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: Andyman
I live in Julie Lassa's District, and the letters to the editor of the Stevens Point Journal (The local paper) have been flying.

It appears Julie finds it more important to serve govt. rather than God.

"Render unto Ceasar what are Ceasar's and to God what are God's.!"

72 posted on 01/09/2004 3:28:53 PM PST by Northern Yankee ( Freedom needs a soldier...)
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To: Northern Yankee
Democrat=Prostitute
73 posted on 01/09/2004 5:05:56 PM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: ninenot
In what one national group called an unprecedented action, La Crosse Bishop Raymond L. Burke has issued a document that says Catholic legislators who support abortion rights or euthanasia should not present themselves to receive Communion and should be refused if they do so.

Anyone have the name and address of the Bishop in Florida - the one who has been ignoring Terri Schiavo. I want to send him a copy of this article!!

74 posted on 01/10/2004 12:54:41 AM PST by AnimalLover
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To: AnimalLover
Not to worry. That Bish knows about this. Burke, like any other RC Bishop, does not work in a vacuum. The network is quite strong.

Besides: this move has attracted NATIONAL attention from the Press. See following post.
75 posted on 01/10/2004 6:07:58 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Story from Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel of 1/10/04:

Lawmakers insist on independence of the church
By TOM HEINEN
theinen@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Jan. 9, 2004
Treading where few Catholic bishops in the world have gone, La Crosse Bishop Raymond L. Burke has moved ahead of his American contemporaries and drawn strong praise and criticism from secular groups by publicly ordering priests in his diocese to refuse Communion to Catholic politicians who vote in favor of abortion or euthanasia.

Wisconsin


Photo/File
Is Bishop Raymond L. Burke:


Truth is, the dark ages ended 500 years ago, and it is not a good idea for the American electorate to begin to be divided along religious lines.



Recent Coverage

1/9/04: Legislators can't have Eucharist, bishop says



"This is certainly absolutely unprecedented action, and it's disturbing because elected officials have to represent constituents from hundreds of religious groups and non-believers, and not just give blind adherence to one religious demand, even if it is a demand from the bishop," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, a United Church of Christ minister and executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State in Washington, D.C.

"Truth is, the Dark Ages ended 500 years ago, and it is not a good idea for the American electorate to begin to be divided along religious lines. That is the inevitable consequence of clergy punishing church members for not following church doctrine in their voting pattern."

However, three groups opposing abortion commended Burke for holding politicians accountable, for "taking a historic step forward," and for being a "wise and caring shepherd."

Politicians know that they can be stripped of committee leadership positions and can have their own legislation held up if they go against their political party's positions, said Susan Armacost, legislative director of Wisconsin Right to Life, a non-sectarian group in Milwaukee. So, she asked, why is it horrible if the bishop of their denomination disciplines them for crossing a line?

"We're saying, 'What's the problem? Stop the whining and accept the consequences,' " Armacost said.

Also praising Burke were Judie Brown, president of the Virginia-based American Life League, and Peggy Hammill, state director of Pro-Life Wisconsin, a Christian group based in Brookfield.

Burke, who will be installed as archbishop of St. Louis on Jan. 26, attracted national attention last month when it became known that he had sent letters to three unnamed Wisconsin legislators in his diocese to warn them that their support of "anti-life" legislation was causing grave scandal and putting their spiritual well-being at risk.

He ratcheted that up Thursday when he published a pastoral letter "On the Dignity of Life and Civic Responsibility" and a "Notification" in The Catholic Times, his diocesan newspaper. The notice tells Catholic legislators there who support abortion or euthanasia not to attempt to receive Communion and orders priests not to give it to them.

Burke's action comes while a task force of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is developing a policy to guide U.S. bishops in handling Catholic legislators. The Vatican issued a doctrinal note on the participation of Catholics in political life about a year ago.

Father Thomas Reese, editor of the Jesuit magazine America, said Burke "pushed the envelope." Reese did not know of many bishops around the world who had taken similar action.

"I don't know of any Italian bishops who are denying Communion to Catholic politicians in Italy who are voting wrong on abortion," Reese said. "The real question is, is this the beginning of a trend or is this going to be simply an isolated story?"

Reese said the U.S. bishops have not decided how they want to handle the issue.

Burke, a canon lawyer, has followed canonical obligations and pastoral duty by trying to correct the politicians' behavior in various steps before taking more serious action.

Diocesan spokeswoman Rose Hammes said Friday that Burke was out of town and unavailable for comment.

The diocesan newspaper quoted Burke as saying that he took action because the three legislators had not accepted his invitation to meet with him and appeared unwilling to conform to church teaching.

State Sen. Julie Lassa (D-Stevens Point), who has acknowledged being one of the three, released a statement Friday, saying, "When I was sworn into office, I took an oath to uphold the Constitution. My constituents have the right to expect that I will represent people of all faiths. Bishop Burke certainly has a right to voice his opinion, and I will give him the same respectful hearing I would give any other citizen.

"I hold Bishop Burke in high regard; however, I believe any effort to pressure legislators by threatening to deny them the sacraments is contrary to the principles of democracy."

U.S. Rep. David Obey (D-Wis.), whose home office is in the diocese, released a more pointed statement without indicating whether he had been contacted by Burke.

"Bishop Burke has a right to instruct me on matters of faith and morals in my private life and - like any other citizen - to try by persuasion, not dictation, to affect my vote on any public matter. But, when he attempts to use his ecclesiastical position to dictate to American public officials how the power of law should be brought to bear against Americans who do not necessarily share our religious beliefs, on abortion or any other public issue, he crosses the line into unacceptable territory.

"The U.S. Constitution, which I have taken a sacred oath to defend, is designed to protect American citizens from just such authoritarian demands."


The estimable Barry Lynn weighs in from the Twilight Zone, and Dave Obey, an ego similar in all ways to Ted Kennedy, resents the abominable treatment from his Bishop and Pastor.
76 posted on 01/10/2004 6:12:15 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: ninenot
"Truth is, the Dark Ages ended 500 years ago, and it is not a good idea for the American electorate to begin to be divided..."

NO!  Truth is TRUTH, and it is timeless.
77 posted on 01/10/2004 6:26:18 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: Jaded
God bless Bishop Burke!
78 posted on 01/10/2004 6:30:44 AM PST by Thorin
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To: AnimalLover
Anyone have the name and address of the Bishop in Florida - the one who has been ignoring Terri Schiavo

Good to have a reference of the Bishops' listing

Florida

Archdiocese of Miami
Most Reverend John C. Favalora
9401 Biscayne Blvd.
Miami Shores, FL 33138

Most Reverend Gilberto Fernandez
9401 Biscayne Blvd.
Miami Shores, FL 33138

Most Reverend Agustín A. Román
9401 Biscayne Blvd.
Miami Shores, FL 33138

Diocese of Orlando
Most Reverend Norbert M. Dorsey, CP
P.O. Box 1800
Orlando, FL 32802-1800

Most Reverend Thomas G. Wenski
Coadjutor Bishop of Orlando
P.O. Box 1800
Orlando, Fl 32802

Diocese of Palm Beach
Most Reverend Gerald M. Barbarito
P.O. Box 109650
Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410-9650

Diocese of Pensacola-Tallahassee
Most Reverend John H. Ricard, SSJ
P.O. Drawer 17329
Pensacola, FL 32522

Diocese of St. Augustine
Most Reverend Victor B. Galeone
P.O. Box 24000
Jacksonville, FL 32241-4000

Diocese of St. Petersburg
Most Reverend Robert N. Lynch
P.O. Box 40200
St. Petersburg, FL 33743

Diocese of Venice
Most Reverend John J. Nevins
1000 Pinebrook Road
P.O. Box 2006
Venice, FL 34284

79 posted on 01/10/2004 6:31:58 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: ninenot
Barry Lynn is a perfect representative of the United Church of Christ--a denomination that began with the Pilgrims and is now Christian in Name Only.

The whining politicians are ridiculous. Bishop Burke is not trying to "dictate" to them. He has given them a chance to embrace the Faith they claim to have, and told them they had to make a choice: be a good Catholic or a good pro-abort. No one is forcing them to claim to be Catholic, after all.

80 posted on 01/10/2004 6:35:02 AM PST by Thorin
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To: ninenot
At least the Catholic politicians here have been warned ahead of time. Although, I think there's only one who would have a problem. The only really prominant pro-choice, Catholic politician in town died in November.

If he has the intestinal fortitude to do this with the politicians, I can't wait to see what he does with St. Francis Xavier. Who knows, they might actually have to put an organ back in that church.
81 posted on 01/10/2004 6:52:05 AM PST by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: ArrogantBustard
"One could consider a legislative vote in favour abortion to be participating in the commission of abortion."

That would make you an accessary before the fact.

In other words the legislator might as well help the abortionist do the deed.

82 posted on 01/10/2004 7:27:46 AM PST by painter
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To: painter
In other words the legislator might as well help the abortionist do the deed

Yup.

83 posted on 01/10/2004 7:52:39 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: Thorin; NYer
You have synopsized the focus of Archbishop Burke's remarks.....remarks that the recipients thereof seek to distort to suit their own agenda. Well done!

If a running back for the Packers expressed displeasure with a play called by Favre and said he refused to run it, I suspect if his "personal conviction" could not be changed by Brett, the offensive coordinator, head coach/general manager or the owner, the back would be cleaning out his personal possessions from the Green Bay locker room forthwith.

He can still play professional football (although I think coaches would look at him with a wary eye), but he cannot claim to be a Green Bay Packer if he does not ascribe to the dictates of that organization, i.e.: the contents of the playbook.

Archbishop Burke who, it saddens me to say is leaving my daughter's diocese, is NOT telling any legislator how to vote...contrary to those who would love to disseminate that falsehood. He states the obvious. You cannot act consistantly and without remorse in a manner contrary to the tenets of a faith you profess to espouse and expect to be considered a devout member of that religious organization.

The argument may be presented that we all sin, which is true, however, it is requisite of the penitent to not only seek forgiveness via the Sacrament of Reconciliation, but most importantly, a condition of the absolution of his/her sins is the heartfelt promise to God to do their best to "avoid sin or the near occasion of sin". A legislator who fully intends to speak in favor of and vote for the abominable practice of legalized infanticide has turned his/her back on the Catholic faith, and in fact, violates the tenets of many orthodox religions.

I believe Archbishop Burke is simply seeking first and foremost that those involved experience an epiphany and recognize the sanctity of all life, but until that occurs, cease the hypocrisy of claiming to espouse the Catholic faith while violating its basic tenet. The message is clear....you cannot be a Catholic in good standing and be pro-abortion.

84 posted on 01/10/2004 8:55:49 AM PST by EODGUY (Pray for a respect for the sanctity of life. God bless.)
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To: ninenot
"Bishop Burke has a right to instruct me on matters of faith and morals in my private life and - like any other citizen - to try by persuasion, not dictation, to affect my vote on any public matter. But, when he attempts to use his ecclesiastical position to dictate to American public officials how the power of law should be brought to bear against Americans who do not necessarily share our religious beliefs, on abortion or any other public issue, he crosses the line into unacceptable territory.

The bishop is not doing that Davey. He's telling you that the way you vote on the power of law is contrary to Catholic teaching.

Part of moral suasion is to make certain that the object of that suasion is aware that his actions must conform with the teachings one professes to believe.

Burke is perfectly consistent; Obey is not.

85 posted on 01/10/2004 9:01:34 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: ninenot
If only the German Bishops had been this courageous 70 years ago.

The tragic truth is that there are little Auschwitzes spread across this great nation. And, they have killed more people than all the Nazi concentration camps combined.

We call it “women’s rights”. But, since when is it moral to bestow the right to a woman or a man to kill another?

86 posted on 01/10/2004 9:19:04 AM PST by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: sinkspur
Dave Obey is still PO'd that the Dems are a minority; he's a lifer in Congress and is not about to put up with some Bishop telling HIM what to do or how to believe.

The 'spin' will ALWAYS be that "I'm representing my District...and the Constitution....Church and State....Papist Dictators...Torquemada..."

Wonder how that spin will play with St. Pete at the Pearlies?
87 posted on 01/10/2004 9:49:30 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: ninenot
Even our abortion law is justified by the pretense that it allows abortions for the mother's health, except that "health" is so broadly construed that there is no limit on the power of the physician. As a matter of fact almost all abortions fall under the category of discretionary surgery, like a nosejob.
88 posted on 01/10/2004 10:02:26 AM PST by RobbyS (XPqu)
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To: franky
McCaskill knows that the archbishop has given her fair warning.
89 posted on 01/10/2004 10:04:46 AM PST by RobbyS (XPqu)
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To: EODGUY
There is further that the Catholic argument against abortion is based on "natural Law "as well as faith. Every American legislator is bound by that same law. Of course, most reject that approach including many liberal Catholics. Cuomo's famous speech at Notre Dame is founded on a rejection of natural law.
90 posted on 01/10/2004 10:10:26 AM PST by RobbyS (XPqu)
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To: EODGUY
If a running back for the Packers expressed displeasure with a play called by Favre ...

Point well made.  Mind if I use it and insert Eagles, and McNabb in the place of the two soon-to-be-vacationers that you used?   vbg  :-)
91 posted on 01/10/2004 10:40:55 AM PST by GirlShortstop (What part of: Catholics don't regard YOPIOS as very precious at all don't you understand?)
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To: ninenot
"The U.S. Constitution, which I have taken a sacred oath to defend, is designed to protect American citizens from just such authoritarian demands." Now the U.S. Constitution overrides his baptismal vows? Thomas More went to the block rather than subscribe to this belief.
92 posted on 01/10/2004 10:46:55 AM PST by RobbyS (XPqu)
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To: GirlShortstop
'Scuse us.

McNabb is over-rated. The Philly defense has carried the team, as you well know.

As to tomorrow's joust: the team which makes the mistake will lose. If GB plays as well as they can, it will be a VERY good game, and Philly will be eating cheesesteaks while watching GB defeat St. Louis next week.
93 posted on 01/10/2004 4:07:25 PM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: ninenot
GB plays as well as they can, it will be a VERY good game, and Philly will be eating cheesesteaks while watching GB defeat St. Louis next week.

GB *and* St Louis are gonna licking their wounds    :-p
94 posted on 01/10/2004 4:18:19 PM PST by GirlShortstop (What part of: Catholics don't regard YOPIOS as very precious at all don't you understand?)
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To: GirlShortstop
Good to have a reference of the Bishops' listing

Thanks a million for this input. It is greatly appreciated!

95 posted on 01/10/2004 7:38:28 PM PST by AnimalLover
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To: GirlShortstop
Be my guest, GST. But I doubt Brett would consider the Packers'continuing on to play in the Superbowl a vacation. :)))))

I am just looking forward to a good game today.

96 posted on 01/11/2004 6:40:47 AM PST by EODGUY (Pray for a respect for the sanctity of life. God bless.)
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To: EODGUY; ninenot
But I doubt Brett would consider the Packers'continuing on to play in the Superbowl a vacation. :)))))        Good one!

I am just looking forward to a good game today.        As am I.  I'm not optimistic that any game today could surpass, nor match last night's NFC game.   WOW!!!    FReegards.
97 posted on 01/11/2004 7:28:01 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: GirlShortstop
We had a previous engagement last night so I missed the game. I guess I missed a good one!

Hopefully we'll see a real shoot-out today. :)

Take care.
98 posted on 01/11/2004 8:26:07 AM PST by EODGUY (Pray for a respect for the sanctity of life. God bless.)
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To: Jaded
Go baby!
99 posted on 01/11/2004 2:51:58 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Go baby!

pun at no extra charge!

100 posted on 01/11/2004 3:16:17 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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