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To: Maximilian
I stand corrected. Could we agree that more churches are becoming authentic?

More priests teaching orthodoxy?

More music in Latin and of approved sources (not the OCP kind, either)??

More Catholics starting to come back to the Church??

More deacons?? (Will they become priests, however, when their wives are deceased?)

11 posted on 01/12/2004 5:16:10 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Zenit, Dec, 18, 2003

ZENIT - The World Seen From Rome

Code: ZE03121802

Date: 2003-12-18

Pope Offers Guidelines to Overcome Crisis of Consecrated Life

Among Them: Ongoing Formation, and a Deeper Understanding of Charism

VATICAN CITY, DEC. 18, 2003 ( John Paul II offered guidelines for the Church to overcome the crisis of consecrated life that is reflected in statistics compiled by the Holy See.

The Pope requested that every possible effort be made to support this "gift of God for the Church," when he met today with a group of French bishops and with the archbishop of Monaco.

This crisis of the consecrated life, he told the bishops, causes the aging of religious communities, "with inevitable consequences for the life of the institutes, for their witness, for their governance, and also for the options connected to their mission."

The Statistical Yearbook of the Church reveals that in 1985 there were 917,432 women religious, with temporary or perpetual vows, in the Church; in 2001 there were 792,317.

In those 16 years, the figure for Europe declined from 493,045 to 357,840. The number of women religious is constantly decreasing in Latin America, North America and Oceania, while it is increasing in Africa and Asia.

According to the same source, in 1985 there were 150,161 religious-order priests; in 2001 they decreased to 138,619. Over those 16 years, Europe declined from 71,642 to 62,546. Their number is decreasing in all the continents except Africa, where there has been a slight increase since the year 2000.

The number of non-ordained religious with perpetual or temporary vows decreased from 65,208 in 1985 to 54,970 in 2001. They are decreasing everywhere except in Asia and Africa.

In his address to the bishop, the Holy Father offered guidelines to enable the Church to surmount this crisis of consecrated life.

First, he emphasized "permanent formation" of the religious, "in particular at the theological and spiritual level."

John Paul II then stressed the need for religious to understand their charisms more profoundly in order to "renew their works, paying particular attention to listening with great willingness to the new calls of the Spirit" and responding "to the spiritual and missionary urgencies of the moment."

The Pontiff also asked the bishops and all Catholics to "promote the vocation and mission of consecrated life."

He further advocated "institutional dialogue" between religious congregations, bishops' conferences and the conferences of religious superiors to attain a "genuine consensus and fruitful exchanges." The objective is that each institute of consecrated life integrate itself better in the life of the diocesan Church, the Holy Father said.

He said that religious today are protagonists of "imaginative charity," especially with persons "wounded by life," and that their witness continues to address youths.

For this reason, John Paul II requested the bishops and religious to give "renewed attention to young people who wish to commit themselves to the religious life," ensuring that they receive a solid "human, intellectual, moral, spiritual, communal and pastoral" formation.

The Pope noted that, even amid the crisis of consecrated vocations, new communities of consecrated life are springing up.

"The new religious communities are an opportunity for the Church," the Holy Father said. "Helped by the bishops, whose task it is to be vigilant, they still have need to mature, to establish themselves, and on occasions to organize themselves according to the canonical rules in force, with prudence."

"May all remember that the spirit of dialogue, of fraternal coexistence at the service of Christ, and of the mission must prevail without cease!" he exhorted, stressing that all "competition and antagonism" must be avoided.

12 posted on 01/12/2004 5:29:34 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Could we agree that more churches are becoming authentic?

I hope so, I really do. But the signs that I see are pointing to a complete and utter breakdown in "authentic" Catholicism as the generation that was raised before Vatican II passes away. Even when they went along with the Vatican II revolution, they could see that it was a modification of what they had grown up with. They still had some foundation. But the new generation knows nothing of authentic Catholicism. They are totally adrift.

Of course this is a generalization, and not true in every case. But here is a data point that I found particularly depressing. Last night a friend of my teenage daughters was over and we were all discussing (well I was just listening) the fact that they didn't know 1 girl in the youth group of the local parish who wasn't a total tramp. Not one of them has the least bit of either faith or morals, and this according to the friend who is no paragon of virtue. My daughter said that it's impossible even to talk with them because it's like they come from different planets.

This is the next generation of the Catholic Church, and these are the so-called "good kids" who belong to the youth group. I fail to see how this generation could possibly implement "authentic" Catholic Churches in the future even if they had the best intentions in the world.

More priests teaching orthodoxy?

I hate to sound like a prophet of doom, and nothing would make me happier than to find out that I am all wrong. But I see "orthodoxy" receding over the horizon and becoming only a distant memory.

Here's one example. I picked up the New Mass missalette for the Feast of the Holy Family and I noticed that they have now instituted a new second reading to replace the politically incorrect one that talks about wives obeying their husbands. For the past few years they have allowed lectors to bracket that part of the reading. But now they are replacing the reading entirely, so that no one will happen to read the forbidden part in their pew even if the lector skips over it. This is a deliberate attempt to suppress even the knowledge of orthodox teaching among Catholics. They are looking forward to the day when no one even remembers that the Catholic Church used to teach something very different.

More music in Latin and of approved sources (not the OCP kind, either)??

Perhaps what we're seeing is a divergence. You are correct that there are some places that are bringing in more "authentic" music. But at the same time there are huge movements like "Lifeteen" that are introducing vulgar rock-and-roll music that will make us wish for the golden age of "On Eagles' Wings." Events like World Youth Day combine rock-and-roll and the Catholic liturgy in ways that sets the standard for churches around the world.

More Catholics starting to come back to the Church??

The evidence from the Gallup poll is more are continuing to leave all the time. Catholic Sunday attendance has now dropped below protestant attendance levels for the first time ever. There are highly publicized individual examples like Scott Hahn, but for every Scott Hahn there are thousands of Catholics who are voting with their feet and leaving their local parish.

More deacons??

Previously I got in trouble for expressing my opinion here on permanent deacons, so I won't repeat it again.

13 posted on 01/12/2004 5:32:21 PM PST by Maximilian
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