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To: Akron Al
I'm not sure why the national media and the Catholic Press have ignored Cleveland.The numbers are overwhelmin Perhaps it is because the connection between molisting and the gay-run diocese is so clear.

Over the past several years a picture is emerging,especially when one starts connecting dots. I appreciate your observation I had puzzled over Cleveland's "protective bubble" for a while,just never connected.

I get copies of the Universe Bulletin from a friend occasionally and have many Cleveland friends and distant relatives there who are Catholic. The discussions I have had with them regards the "scandal" are quite curious. People,who I know to be bright and appear holy,act dazed,confused,indignant or dumbfounded when I ask them what they think about the terrible problem they have in the Church there.

Despite that I believe there is a solid core of good,orthodox Catholics there just waiting but trusting that a good bishop will be sent to them.

Our prayers seem to have been answered here in Phoenix,but I sense the lavenders have put their Plan B into operation.Out here we do not have a core of well catechized Catholics so he is going to have his hands full. But we do have at least four parishes with 24/7 Adoration and I think that has been a powerful force for good in the diocese.It has resulted in some great priests being ordained over the past few years.

Anyway I wish you all well!!

Any more news on the story about the gay seminarian who killed the pastor,who had reported him and then burned the rectory last summer? I'd like a little follow up on that one,please. Thanks.

9 posted on 01/20/2004 12:38:52 PM PST by saradippity
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To: BlackElk
Interesting thread,with a good observation by Akron Al. A little fuel for those of us who try to wake people up to the identity of some of the more incorrible bishops.
10 posted on 01/20/2004 12:45:37 PM PST by saradippity
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To: saradippity
People,who I know to be bright and appear holy,act dazed,confused,indignant or dumbfounded when I ask them what they think about the terrible problem they have in the Church there.

This is a natural defense mechanism. I too know several people living in the Cleveland diocese, and I wish I could get them to wake up to the reality of what they're participating in and supporting. But they're the type who will keep going to their local parish until the day they die, even though they are no longer being provided the Catholic faith, and even though the parish they lived in their whole lives has had several priests exposed as abusers, the suicide of 1 priest, and now recent public revelations concerning about the only priest who had yet to be touched by the scandal.

13 posted on 01/20/2004 1:02:54 PM PST by Maximilian
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