Skip to comments.The anti-Catholicism of the "National Catholic Reporter"
Posted on 01/28/2004 12:46:44 PM PST by heyheyhey
In my opinion, the NCR (different from the National Catholic Register and from the Catholic World Report) appears to be classic type of a wolf in sheep's clothing. It is the most anti-Catholic weekly publication that I know, and yet it continues pretending to be "Catholic." The evidence of NCR's anti-Catholic and anti-Christian agenda is somewhat camouflaged, so let it be dug up and brought to daylight in this thread.
- Why, and who cares? Under normal circumstances I couldn't care less, but very many American priests and religious read the NCR, and it has poisonously influenced a generation or two of priests. When we see the sorry state of affairs in our Church we should know, for our own protection, where the devil dwells. Many screwy things (most of all the disdain for the Teaching Magisterium) originated and/or have been, or continue to be, sponsored by the NCR.
There is only one FReeper, as far as I know, vigorously defending the NCR, so he is rare and dear - let's be respectful to him.
September 24, 2003 - on sexual morality
With so many Catholics rejecting an official church teaching, and the pope insisting on it at the same time, questions of authority and its proper role cannot be avoided. As a matter of fact, the authority issue has been connected to the sexuality issue for more than a quarter of a century, raising the importance of trying to sort out and resolve the human sexuality questions.
There is a tradition within Catholicism that speaks of the sensus fidelium. It literally means "sense of the faithful." It means that the faithful, as a whole, have an instinct or "sense" about when a teaching is -- or is not -- in harmony with the true faith. At a minimum, the sensus fidelium has been demanding that the church reconsider its teachings on human sexuality.
Prominent Catholics have made repeated efforts to do just this since the 1968 papal encyclical. Those who have dared enter these waters have more often than not been denigrated by church authorities for setting forth. Connected to any reassessment has been considerable fear and trauma. Theologians who have dared have found their careers thwarted. As a result, as pressure has grown to probe church teachings on sexuality so has the resistance by key authority figures.
October 10, 2003 - on Church authority
The process reminds me of a statement that the spiritual guru, Edwina Gately, once made, referring to today's Catholic hierarchy. "The God they give us is too small to worship."
November 18, 2003 - on priestly celibacy
Our bishops have become cafeteria Catholics. They seem to think we can do without the Eucharist......
The bishops, however, are so resistant to considering optional celibacy that they view Catholics who raise the issue as "having an agenda," implying that those who seek change really, deep down, want to hurt the church, not extend its mission to build the Reign of God.
This is crazy. No, it's worse. It's scandalous. Let me be clear: to place an arbitrary church discipline in the way of the building of Eucharistic-centered Christian communities is offensive to God.
November 20, 2003 - on homo "marriage,"
We who profess a relationship with a Diety must be especially diligent to remind ourselves that no one has the full picture, no one can claim an inside track. Believers and non-believers alike will be better off when humility reins in certainty, when policies are shaped by attempts to understand and offer care to the hurting and insecure.
How about the current issue and "Liturgical coup is a lousy way to do business"
Five years ago, when our now Vatican writer John L. Allen Jr. first began to uncover exactly how the revisionists were attacking the reform, he discovered that a secretly appointed committee of 11 men -- no women included -- met quietly at the Vatican to overturn decades of work on translation, work that had been done under the approving mandate of Pope Paul VI.
Of those 11, only one held a graduate degree in scripture studies, two were not native English-speakers, one of the advisers was a graduate student and several had a history of objecting to inclusive-language translations, including two of the American archbishops and the lone scripture scholar. A rather poor representation of scholarship and pastoral sensitivities,, given the dimensions of the English-speaking segment of the church.
What has also become clear, our story reported, is that the elaborate consultative process used in developing English-language translations for nearly three decades meant little. Powers in Rome handpicked a small group of men who in two weeks undid work that had taken dozens of years.
The unfortunate thing is that the new translations, or the return to old translations, is being done in the style of the pre-Vatican II church, heavy-handed and at the whim of those in power.
Its a lousy way to do the churchs business -- and it doesnt withstand the scrutiny of serious, adult, educated Catholics in the early 21st century.
Round off whining and condescending pieces like the above with regular contributors like Gumbleton, Chittister, McBrien and you got yerself National AmCatholic Distorter!
Average age of subscriber: 68
Oh no, johnb2004, you must be one of those uneducated childlike and non degreed members of the great unwashed who can't think for yourself, has to have rules and is positively rigid and medieval.
And you probably like Mother Angelica and Bishop Bruskewitz, appreciate Latin and tradition. Don't take this personally or anything. ;-)
I know :)
Here's what I found,
January 27, 2004 - Rita Larivee, NCR associate publisher wrote,
The universe is a sacred dance involving all of creation. Quantum theology invites us to be participants, encouraging us to suspend for a moment our inhibitions in fear that we might miss a step or stumble and fall. We must go beyond a comparison of the great wisdom traditions, as if sharing notes on who said what first and stopping there. Quantum theology is suggesting that the solutions to our world and church problems can only be found in the mosaic of the world community.No comment necessary.
Imagine what we could learn if we accepted to discuss the issues of war, abortion, and homosexuality from the perspectives of Jainism, Buddhism and Confucianism. Is it possible that part of the reason we cannot find answers is that we are asking the wrong questions? Quantum theology is not for those seeking to justify a particular perspective. It forces us to go beyond our usual comfort zone and to venture onto a dance floor whose music we have yet to understand.
Means little? They sell themselves short. This "consulative process" that they enjoy serves as a case study of how NOT to do things.
Measured against the expectations of many educated Catholic women, however, especially in the developed world, the pope has often seemed a disappointment. The sense of alienation can be profound.
Naturally, not every Catholic woman feels this way. Some believe the pope, with his doctrine of male-female complementarity, as well as his defense of life and of the family, coupled with his fierce devotion to the Virgin Mary, has pointed the way to a more authentic new feminism. Defenders also point out that the pope has appointed an unprecedented number of women to pontifical councils and academies.
In 1988, John Paul even published an encyclical letter on the dignity of women titled Mulieris Dignitatem, which affirms the contemporary womens movement as a positive sign of the times, though it also warns against the masculinization of women.
At the end of the day, however, even the staunchest defenders of John Paul tend to acknowledge that the Catholic church has a problem with women. A bishops-sponsored survey of Australian Catholics in 1999 reached a conclusion that has parallels across much of the Catholic world, finding a widespread sense of pain, alienation and often anger resulted from a strong sense of womens marginalization, struggle, disenfranchisement, powerlessness, irrelevance and lack of acknowledgement in the church.
... many American bishops feel reservations about some aspects of John Pauls pontificate, especially the way in which it seems to have operated at times on an adversarial model with respect to bishops and bishops conferences. The symbol of this approach would be the 1998 document Apostolos Suos, which held that episcopal conferences have no right to teach on matters of faith and morals in their own name.Personally, I thank God that the Bishops' Conferences do not constitute ecclesiastical authority. In the U.S. for each relatively sound document or idea they come up with at least three heretical ones. Most recent "nugget" is the National Review Board assisted by a bunch of ("former") FBI agents overseeing the bishops.
Most Americans, along with a large chunk of the rest of the Catholic world, regarded this a classic exercise in raw power politics. Faced with a wealthy, respected and influential national conference in the United States, and equally impressive regional conferences in Latin America and Asia, the Vatican wanted to cut them off at the knees. Many American Catholics were proud of the accomplishments of their bishops conference in the 1980s, with well-received documents on the economy and on peace. The idea that their bishops were being punished for such success was galling.
Seriously, though, I think the most important thing we can say about the folks at NCR is: they need our prayers most urgently.
Translated to human language it means "the Church doesnt ordain women priests and doesnt allow abortions."
And lets not forget the many souls affected by the NCR spew.
Priests and bishops especially.
Darn hard to tell.
I've never heard of "quantum theology" but I'm pretty sure I know what it'd say about homosexuality ;)
I believe the NCR to be the most anti-Catholic publication. Good thing you got out, but there are still many church people under their influence.
The pro-abortion piece, and I know the NCR is "pro-," would be valuable for this thread.
Oh, darn... I just broke my pledge to be charitable ;)
Bet she has sensible shoes on though. Only way you can tell she is a nun.
Here goes my NCR January 17, 2003 sampler of quotes,
Strategies to break abortion stalemate - EDITORIAL,
The bishops should find a way to work productively with pro-choice Catholics in high office. Politicians like Sens. Tom Daschle and Ted Kennedy and Rep. Nancy Pelosi should not face banishment from public events held on Catholic soil because of their public policy views, nor should they fear refusal at the Communion rail. Theres a lot of good work that can be done outside the abortion arena, and quiet respect, not burnt bridges, is both the prudent and productive course of action.Medical advances enliven stalemated abortion debate by MARGOT PATTERSON,
Christine Gudorf, a professor of religious studies at Florida International University and the author of Body, Sex, and Pleasure: Reconstructing Christian Sexual Ethics, said there is increasing recognition among feminists that the basis for Roe v. Wade was made on the wrong grounds -- of privacy rather than a womans welfare.Back to the future: Post-Roe world would look a lot like todays by Joe Feuerherd
A pro-choice Catholic, Gudorf came to her support for abortion rights through personal experience. Twenty-eight years ago she went to her doctor to get fitted for a diaphragm and was told she was six months pregnant. She had just adopted a terminally ill child and had been recently diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. Although Gudorf eventually decided to go forward with the pregnancy, she said the experience led her to support the pro-choice position.
It would not have been right for me not to have a choice at that point. Making that choice was an important part of choosing who I was going to be. And that had to be my choice, Gudorf said.
The loss of Roe would be a terrible thing, said Catholics for a Free Choice president Frances Kissling, but that does not mean that abortion would not continue to be legal in the United States.
According to Kissling, It would be extremely difficult for any state, no matter how conservative it might be to make abortion largely illegal without facing the wrath of the citizens of that state.
The express purpose of this thread to show that the NCR IS NOT the Church :)
Were not certain why this recent flurry of activity has taken place, but it is one of the healthiest signs we have observed in the priesthood in some time. In an institution aching for leadership, some priests are finding the courage to step up and, in a true example of pastoral service, to raise the deep concerns of the people they serve.Writing stupid diatribe against 2000 years old Catholic moral teachings is "flurry of activity" and "one of the healthiest signs" according to NCR.
Perhaps no step has been as remarkable or courageous as that taken by 23 Chicago priests who signed a letter strongly objecting to the increase in the use of violent and abusive language in Vatican declarations directed at gays and lesbians.
The "National Catholic Reporter" is somewhat mistitled because there is not really much about it that is Catholic--at least not much that supports the Catholic faith as promulgated by Rome. The "Reporter" plumps for women's ordination, an acceptance of contraception, a more "democratic" structure in the Church, and so on. It's all quite predictable: the Catholic variant of the Democratic Party at prayer, although the "Reporter" does not favor abortion.
The last part needs an update.
Occasionally, I come across Catholic websites that feature the NCR in their Catholic links. I always e-mail them and tell what I think about NCRs catholicity. I was successful a few times - the links disappeared ;)
Perhaps John Pauls comparatively enlightened approach to women -- appointing women as his spokespersons at international conferences, opposing discrimination against women in public policy -- is the most one could reasonably expect from a Polish church leader of his generation and life experience.Allen doesn't expect too much from the Pope because he is a Pole? What a dude Allen is! I would like to see this dude use comparable phrase for a ......... (fill in the blank ;)). I think he knows what the "career killer" is.
Measured against the expectations of many educated Catholic women, however, especially in the developed world, the pope has often seemed a disappointment.
Allen uses a catch phrase, "Educated Catholic Women." Once I went to a discount store with the slogan "An educated consumer is our best customer." The customers there didn't look particularly "educated," but the slogan was nice to any customer.
Allen implies two things, 1. To dislike the Pope is a sign of education, 2. A woman fond of the Pope must be uneducated.
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