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To: NYer
I would refer you to Karl Keating's web site. Alex Jones was moved by a comment made by Keating. His web site, Catholic Answers, can provide you with scripturally based responses to just about any question you might have. Specifically, here is the link to: Christ In The Eucharist

I looked through the site and I couldn't find any explanation beyond "this is what the early church believed." There was no specific address as to how the physical body of Christ can be more places than physically possible for the substance present in a person of normal constitution.

I will check out Grodi's site as time permits.

28 posted on 02/16/2004 3:40:24 PM PST by Frumanchu (I for one fear the sanctions of the Mediator far above the sanctions of the moderator)
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To: Frumanchu; Salvation
"There was no specific address as to how the physical body of Christ can be more places than physically possible for the substance present in a person of normal constitution."

You ask a sensible question as it is important to remember that Christ is both FULLY MAN as well as FULLY GOD.

When we say that Christ's Body and Blood are really present in the consecrated species, we believe that it is His living, resurrected and glorified Body and Blood - i.e. His human nature has been divinised by the action of the Holy Spirit, perhaps what the Orthodox would term theosis.

He now has a "spiritual body" as opposed to a "natural body". Consequently it does not suffer the same limitations that it did prior to His death and resurrection e.g. He is able to materialise/pass through locked doors cf. doubting Thomas etc.

Similarly in the Eucharist, He is not bound by the same constraints of time and space that we are, as His Body and Blood have taken on the spiritual qualities which are needed to exist in eternity where every single moment in time is simultaneously present as present.

To try and rationalise the Mystery much further is probably to tread on thin ice - there is only so much that is knowable with a limited human intellect unless God gives a specific revelation.

However, St. Paul makes some notable contrasts between the natural body and the supernatural body in the following passage:

1 Cor 15,35 "But some man will say: How do the dead rise again? or with what manner of body shall they come?
36 Senseless man, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die first.
37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest NOT THE BODY THAT SHALL BE; but bare grain, as of wheat, or of some of the rest.
38 But God giveth it a body as he will: and to every seed its proper body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but one is the flesh of men, another of beasts, another of birds, another of fishes.
40 And there are BODIES CELESTIAL, and BODIES TERRESTRIAL: but, one is the glory of the celestial, and another of the terrestrial.
41 One is the glory of the sun, another the glory of the moon, and another the glory of the stars. For star differeth from star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it shall rise in incorruption.
43 It is sown in dishonour, it shall rise in glory. It is SOWN IN WEAKNESS, IT SHALL RISE IN POWER.
44 It is sown a natural body, it shall rise a spiritual body. If there be a natural body, there is also a spiritual body, as it is written:
45 The first man Adam was made into a living soul; the last Adam into a quickening spirit.
46 Yet that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; afterwards that which is spiritual.
47 The first man was of the earth, earthly: the second man, from heaven, heavenly.
48 Such as is the earthly, such also are the earthly: and such as is the heavenly, such also are they that are heavenly.
49 Therefore as we have borne the image of the earthly, let us bear also the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot possess the kingdom of God: neither shall corruption possess incorruption.
51 Behold, I tell you a mystery. WE SHALL ALL INDEED RISE AGAIN: BUT WE SHALL NOT ALL BE CHANGED.
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall rise again incorruptible: and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption; and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 And when this mortal hath put on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written: Death is swallowed up in victory."

St. John also appears to teach that there is something radically different about resurrected human nature, which is just not knowable or understandable in this earthly existence:

1 John 2 "Dearly beloved, we are now the sons of God; and it hath not yet appeared what we shall be. We know, that, when he shall appear, we shall be like to him: because we shall see him as he is."
31 posted on 02/16/2004 4:36:50 PM PST by Tantumergo
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To: Frumanchu
physical body of Christ can be more places than physically possible for the substance present in a person of normal constitution

Christ's humanity is not now that of "a person of normal constitution". It's resurrected, glorified human nature.

40 posted on 02/17/2004 10:30:43 AM PST by Campion
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