To: Behind Liberal Lines
Vatican II did almost as much to fracture the Catholic Church as the Reformation did. It led to large numbers of Catholics leaving the Church, and encouraged radicalism in countries like the U.S. where rogue priests and bishops took it as a signal to allow them to tread the paths of heresy.
A Church is more than a belief system. Its also a continuity of traditions and various symbolic trappings. Vatican II eviscerated all these from the Catholic Church and Catholics even today are impacted by it.
The church needed to update its image. Treating other Christians and Jews like second class human beings was one of the things which needed to go. But ripping out altar rails, removing religious statues, turning around the altar, introducing "profane" music to services, and ending the Latin and the Tridentine Mass, destroyed a lot of the majesty of that faith.
I still feel a little unconfortable about Gibson and his feelings towards non-Catholic Christians and Jews. I keep vacillating between thinking he is being unjustly tarred and feathered, and believeing he is a closet anti-Semite.
I imagine time will eventually reveal where he really stands.
Modern day Prostant Churches are not immune from religious revisionism. While the Catholic Church has problems resulting from the points enumerated above, many main stream Protestant Churches have also strayed into the uncharted waters of heresy.
The "Good News" Bibles are atrocious. The "Good News" wording can't compare with the majesty of the King James Bible, and it seems to me that great liberties have been taken with these revised versions with respect to actual content. Sure, the wording in King James is archaic. but its still ENGLISH. If you're too lazy to take the time to check out the meanings of the few archaic terms which can't be inferred from context, you're probably too lazy to care much about your beliefs one way or the other.
The Catholic CHurch has been plagued by homosexual paedophilic priests. Some Protestant Churches actually have ordained these creatures, and performed "marriages" between them. A lot of Protestant Churches have strayed from using the Bible as the primary source of their faith - one of the main inducements for the Reformation in the first place.
Organized Christian Religions are in a sad state and the impending threat of Islam and Islamofacism, along with the atheization of American society bodes ill for the Christian faith.
posted on 02/20/2004 6:40:51 AM PST
(GOD BLESS SENATOR McCARTHY!!!!)
But ripping out altar rails, removing religious statues, turning around the altar, introducing "profane" music to services, and ending the Latin and the Tridentine Mass, destroyed a lot of the majesty of that faith.
Count me as one who disagrees with this position. I think you're talking about personal preferences in aesthetic matters, which have little, if anything, to do with actual doctrinal issues.
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