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Posted on 04/13/2004 12:59:46 PM PDT by CatherineSiena
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While I think the author is a bit off in his implications of which side of the culture war most bishops are on, I've always liked Bork and am happy he's converted.
There's a rumor circulating among those with Republican political ties that George W. Bush has taken strides towards conversion but confided to his brother Jeb (a Catholic) that he would not do so while in office due to the political implications. Probably just a story, but if not - it's hard to comprehend a genuine conversion put off on the advice of Karl Rove.
After the death of his first wife in 1980, Bork married Mary Ellen, who had taught religion for fifteen years as a nun of the Sacred Heart and remained actively Catholic even after her departure from that order.
I don't quite know what to think of this, however. Good for her for helping bring about conversion, but what is her (and his) attitude toward the consecrated life? Or towards taking solemn vows?
I've always wondered how someone could believe the wedding vows at a second marriage (or to an ex-priest or religious). Similar words were spoken and broken once, why not again?
Anyone hear anything about this?
That is what we call the triumph of hope over experience.
First I have heard of it.
But if the presidency is making him hold off then he should not run again, then he wouldn't have to wait another 4 and a half years.
Who's "we". ;)
Hope is one thing. Failure to learn from the past is quite another, especially when you're putting yourself in a position to suffer the fallout - as a spouse certainly does.
I may hope that the past experiences of a pervert priest may be in his past, but I would certainly exercise poor judgment if I were to, based upon that hope, let him babysit my children.
Since there are a large number of new users on this website, they should be made aware that you believe that George W. Bush had a hand in 9/11, and you stated such on the 9/11 threads while the WTC towers were burning, yet still standing.
It should be made perfectly clear that you despise the entire Bush family, and think they are disingenuous in their opposition to abortion.
You also got kicked off this forum three days after the start of the Iraq War last year for asserting that the US soldiers did not deserve the benefit of the Geneva Convention, since you, for some strange reason, felt that the US wasn't providing the protections of the Geneva Convention to the Iraqis (with no evidence produced, of course).
Just for the record.
Feel free to substitute "they" or "one" lol.
One gets it now. ;)
During the election crisis Jebs wife made a pilgrimage to Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico to pray. Our Lady of Guadalupe is the patroness of North and South America and patroness of the unborn. On December 12th, the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, Jebs wife prayed for the administration of George W. Bush and consecrated it to Our Lady.
In his first official foreign trip, Bush visited Mexico and while there stopped at Our Lady of Guadalupe Basilica.
I can understand the viewpoint that most Republicans are more accurately "less pro-abortion than Democrats" rather than being truly pro-life, but from another standpoint - the current president and political party are in control of the government. They may not be perfect (or even worth voting for), but they are also much closer to a pro-life position and less prayers away from taking that fateful step to the right conviction that no exception can be made when it comes to the lives of the innocent unborn.
While we shouldn't give the president a free pass when he puts political expediency over unborn lives, we should also not write him off as a lost cause to be ignored and scorned rather than supported and prayed for.
Still spreading what lies you can about me, eh? I was a little too hopeful, I suppose, upon receipt of your last email:
Re: Easter, at least, for St. Ann flock (Armenian Rite Church to be closed)
From sinkspur | 04/12/2004 8:20:35 PM PDT read
I cannot, and will not, engage you in debate on FR.
So, don't waste your time.
But I forget that your forte -- in true radical fashion -- is the unsubstantiated personal attack and there will NEVER be any wastig of your time in "debate" because you know damn good and well you're sucking wind 90% of the time and haven't got a hope in hell of "debating" anyone on the merits and with use of facts to back up your arguments.
As for your continued slander of me ... none of what you say is true, all can be refuted by posts still extant on this system and you remain a pathetic and despicable loser who indeed wastes MY time.
Keep it up, sinkspur ... nothing helps taint you more than your parroting the same old baseless accusations.
The US Catholic Church just welcomed 150,000 converts at the Easter Vigil. I have read some of their stories, which brought me to tears. There are many more on the same journey, who have not completed the final lap across the Tiber. So many of these individuals have discovered the truths of catholicism, right here, on the Internet.
Last night on EWTN's program The Journey Home, Marcus Grodi's guest was a former Nazarene minister named, Doug Gonzales. Each week, I think this is the 'best' conversion story that I have ever heard and the following week, Grodi provides an even better one. Gonzalez' story is worth every last second of its 60 minute time slot! Like many converts, he is amazed at how catholics are drawn away from their 'treasure' and attributes it to poor catechesis. Perhaps, with time, these 'evangelical' catholics will be just the 'shot in the arm' needed to awaken the cradle catholics. I strongly urge all catholics to visit the Journey Home link and listen to the testimonies of these converts.
Doug Gonzalez, was raised on Jack Chick comics and viewed catholics as potential candidates for conversion; most were totally lost, however. His conversion came about through a most unlikely source! It may take a few days before his testimony is posted at the link provided. It is worth the wait!
Marcus Grodi also maintains a website for those who are somewhere along the journey. Coming Home Network is where many who are still exploring the Catholic faith can come for information and fellowship. This particular post, from one of the 150,000 just welcomed into the church, truly moved me. I hope it resonates with you as well.
Never underestimate the power of prayer! Please continue to pray for those catholics who have wandered. April 18 is Divine Mercy Sunday - a golden opportunity to welcome back those who have strayed.
No, but it doesn't surprise me. I know I'm not the only Catholic who has been actively praying for his conversion since before the election in 2000.
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