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Are There Any Christians in America?
serbianna.com ^ | August 10, 2003 | T.V. Weber

Posted on 04/19/2004 4:36:17 PM PDT by Destro

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1 posted on 04/19/2004 4:36:18 PM PDT by Destro
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To: *balkans
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2 posted on 04/19/2004 4:37:33 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
I post no judgements. For HIS WILL be done.
3 posted on 04/19/2004 4:49:25 PM PDT by splint
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To: Destro
***"Clearly, the war in Kosovo was, and still is, a war against Christianity. Yet, no major Christian organization other than the Orthodox has taken a stand against the Kosovo War and the continued occupation of Kosovo, a province of Serbia, by KLA and KFOR forces."***

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"Leaders and representatives of various Christian churches from Eastern and Western Europe and North America are meeting in Budapest today and tomorow to study the Churches' response to the crisis in the Balkans.

The conference was jointly organized by the World Council of Churches (WCC) and the European Conference of Churches, in cooperation with the World Lutheran Federation and the World Reformed Alliance.

Through the meetings, the religious leaders hope to find a common response to the dramatic situation in Yugoslavia. Although the Orthodox Churches and many Churches in Eastern Europe are completely against the aerial attacks, many of the Western Churches support this action.

From the very beginning, John Paul II has condemned both the ethnic cleansing carried out in Kosovo and the NATO bombing in the name of Catholics around the world. However, though the Catholic Church maintains good relations with the WCC, it is not a member of this entity.

Zenit 1999
4 posted on 04/19/2004 4:54:27 PM PDT by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed. Pray for our own souls to receive the grace of a happy)
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To: Destro
Yak8,a more interesting question would be: are there any real Christians in America, other than the Orthodox? If so, why did these Christians not object to Clinton’s war on Christianity in the Balkans?

Sadly, I admit I didn't know what was going on at the time, I do now of course, and am sickened. We were clearly on the wrong side, and this makes me wonder even more about Clinton's lack of reaction to Islamic terrorists who attacked us during his reign.

Yes, he and Hillary are anti Christian, that was made clear many times in this country, yet as stated in this article, too many Christians vote for the party of their pocketbook, ignoring such things as mentioned here, and the party of abortion, homosexuals, etc.

I think I am depressed now! But this article is just great, and very much needed.

5 posted on 04/19/2004 5:11:29 PM PDT by ladyinred (Kerry has more flip flops than Waikiki Beach)
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To: ladyinred
Oops, I have no idea what that is in the first sentence of my above post!
6 posted on 04/19/2004 5:13:44 PM PDT by ladyinred (Kerry has more flip flops than Waikiki Beach)
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To: Destro
I appreciate your post.
I can see you've thought about this and considered it's contents before posting.

One element missing was the definition of a Christian.

You moved right into an alignment of Orthodox Christians with 'being' a Christian and, quite frankly ... I didn't see the connect.

What is Orthodox?

What is (a) Christian.

What's the difference (if any)?

7 posted on 04/19/2004 6:12:07 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Destro
Serbian Americans, Greek Americans, Macedonian Americans, Russian Americans, and so forth, seemed to be the only ones in this part of the world who “got it.”

Correct. The news media managed to pretty well swamp this issue for nearly all Americans. I was stunned when I met a Serbian friend of a friend, and heard a very different story from everything I'd heard in the press. I really didn't know what to think.

We need more education....

8 posted on 04/19/2004 6:13:17 PM PDT by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: knarf
RATS!

I see now that you were not the author.

I apologize for that.

The questions remain.

9 posted on 04/19/2004 6:13:37 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Eala
"I was stunned when I met a Serbian friend of a friend, and heard a very different story from everything I'd heard in the press."

I had much the same experience in talking with a South African before that country was taken from its rightful owners and handed over to black African immigrants.
10 posted on 04/19/2004 6:38:25 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Destro
"But it is truly remarkable that religious groups, both Jewish and Christian, should so signally overlook the spiritual catastrophe of old Russia and the relatively new USSR — and its history."

"Over 300,000 Orthodox clerics were murdered by the Bolsheviks, and those who today recall these statistics and martyrs are largely restricted to White Russian circles of aging émigrés. The National Council of Churches, which bleeds so ostentatiously for the “liberation forces” and terrorists of Africa and Central America, have yet to organize even a memorial service for their coreligionists in the “Worker’s Paradise.” Religious scholars have not, so far as I know, devoted much effort to acquainting congregations and church hierarchies with the specifics of Communist and Socialist antireligious activities. From Under the Rubble, which updates the situation, is not now extolled from pulpits, so far as I know, nor is it included among stacks of worthy reading for mainstream congregations in the West. Yet From Under the Rubble warns, it points out, it compares, it points a finger toward the path upon which we are unwittingly embarked — and it makes its case by calling attention to not only Landmarks, but to what has happened since, which proves — beyond question — the arguments made by Landmarks."

11 posted on 04/19/2004 6:49:02 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Destro
from 1998

"What is not so expected is that so many western Christians, Americans in particular, are willing to believe the worst about their eastern Christian cousins, who, only lately freed from Islamic (and later, in most cases, communist) servitude, are desperately attempting to avoid a repeat of the experience. Today, when all of the Russian North Caucasus is subject to plunder and hostage-taking razzias staged from Shari'a-ruled Chechnya, when not just Nagorno-Karabakh but Armenia proper is in danger of a repeat of 1915, when Cyprus and Greece receive unvarnished threats to their territorial integrity on a weekly basis for the offense of purchasing defensive weapons, and when the borders of Serbia are rapidly approaching those of the pashaluk of Belgrade to suit America's new-found friends in Bosnia and Kosovo, organized Roman Catholic and Protestant sentiment in America overwhelmingly sides with non- and anti-Christian elite opinion in its pro-Muslim, anti-Orthodox tendency."

"For example, in 1993 statements were issued by a number of Roman Catholic, Protestant, and Anglican spokesmen in the United States urging military intervention on behalf of the Islamic regime in Sarajevo. "We are convinced that there is just cause to use force to defend largely helpless people in Bosnia against aggression and barbarism that are destroying the very foundations of society and threaten large numbers of people," wrote the chairman of the U.S. Catholic Conference, at a time when the Muslim beneficiaries of the called-for intervention were not only roasting alive Serb POWs impaled on spits but were slaughtering Roman Catholic Croats by the hundreds in an offensive in central Bosnia. "What is going on in Bosnia is genocide by any other name," observed a prominent Baptist spokesman: "The ghosts of Auschwitz and Dachau have come back to haunt us. If we do nothing we are morally culpable." "Those of us who opposed the Gulf War believed that war was not the answer," opined the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church, "but today we find ourselves confronted with an evil war, the sure elimination of which may be possible only by means of armed intervention." Thus did high-minded guardians of the West's Christian integrity give their blessing for NATO to assist the resumption of jihad in Europe. Granted, they were themselves to some extent victims of the melodramatic media coverage that has characterized the Balkan war, but that's not much of an excuse. Who told them to believe everything dished up by CNN?"

12 posted on 04/19/2004 6:53:17 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Destro
Overfed Baptists who condemn everyone who disagrees with them, secular Methodists who rationalize and condone just about every type of evil behavior, and Catholics who cheerfully deposit funds in the collection plate so that their bishop can pay off the victims of pedophile priests, have one thing in common: they simply do not get it.

It is always good to endear your audience.

13 posted on 04/19/2004 7:47:07 PM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: Between the Lines
Time for nice talk is over.
14 posted on 04/19/2004 7:53:11 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Time for nice talk is over.

LOL!!!

15 posted on 04/19/2004 7:58:06 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: kosta50; monkfan
little ping-ping...
16 posted on 04/19/2004 8:01:55 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: The_Reader_David
one more ping
17 posted on 04/19/2004 8:02:57 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Destro
Time for nice talk is over.

OK. Then piss on T.V. Weber's minority whining. He should have stuck to reporting on UFOs.

18 posted on 04/19/2004 8:17:55 PM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: Between the Lines
Meanwhile Churches burn in Kosovo under the nose of American troops. His point stands.
19 posted on 04/19/2004 8:49:06 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Between the Lines

It is always good to endear your audience.

I was thinking the same thing. He alienated his target audience. In the second paragraph no less. Not too smooth. Fat lot of good it does to make a point if nobody sticks around to hear it.

20 posted on 04/19/2004 8:54:31 PM PDT by monkfan
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