Karl Rahner’s Girlfriend

Catholic Family News ^ | May 2004 | John Vennari

[eastsider]

I've no doubt that platonic relationships have existed throughout church history. St. Teresa of Avila and St. John of the Cross are a good example.

Excellent example. I'd like to add Saints Francis and Clare.

[eastsider]

I have no idea what Cardinal Siri is getting worked up about.

In all likelihood, neither does Cardinal Siri ...

[ninenot]

I am similarly struck by the allegation of "Fatima-bashing" leveled against Ratzinger. His 'immaculate heart' discourse was a backgrounder, not a proposal of definition. And it was an enlightening background, too.

[Bellarmine]

Fr. Dormann, the author of the book, is not an SSPX priest. He is a regular Novus Ordo priest.

[RobbyS]

Maybe, then maybe not. I hestitate to ascribe motive to people so long dead. Even someone who wrote as much as St. Augustine is hard to figure out.

[eastsider]

I must have read more into the word "succumbed" than was intended : )

Have a great St. Catherine's Day!

[Maximilian]

I don't see anything wrong it. In a way, I wish it were a photo of the pope. Makes him look human. He could be on a little outing with a niece or something.

The picture of the pope was never intended to be seen as scandalous. It is published on the cover of an Italian newspaper as a heartwarming look at the human side of the pope. The photo was taken before he was elected pope, but published afterwards.

What strikes me about the photo is how strong he looks. He looks like a dockworker or fisherman or something.

In our times, we tend to read scandal into everything. It wasn't always that way.

This is not historically accurate. People have always suspected scandal with the least provocation. Miss Jane Marple, who is supposed to represent the epitome of the Victorian lady, says, "I always suspect the worse of everyone, and I am rarely proved wrong." The author of the 18th century work "Sentimental Journey through France and Italy" was thrown out of his hotel in Paris for having a woman visit his room. The hotel proprietor required very little evidence to suspect the worse. Such has always been human nature.

[LadyDoc]

"uise Rinser, who died two years ago, met Rahner in 1962 when she was a widow and two-time divorcee..."

Then we read she was born in 1911, which made her 51 years old...heck, even Bridgette Bardot at 51 doesn't look so hot...

(sarcastic pornographic comment removed here by poster)...do you think?

Poor Rahner. At least he could have chose a nice blond bimbo...

[narses]

"A Polish cardinal, in 1975, is not going to go out without his ring, ..."

LOL, in fact, many in the Church went in mufti at that time. Let's not let facts trouble us, shall we?

[McClave]

Malachi Martin, as someone told me today, "is indicted on the same "kind" of circumstantial "evidence". He sought release from his vow of chastity, but it was denied him. He sought permission then to otherwise cease acting as a priest and did. Till the end when book sales needed pumping and he decided to mix "fact" with fiction against the Vatican and Pope he praised only a few years before. He was accused of living an immoral life many times with his bizarre close women (plural) friends almost to the day he died. A famous journalist who covered the Second Vatican Council even accused Martin to the jesuits of sleeping with his wife and later wrote a book about it. What does all this say for traditionalism, if rumors about Rahner are supposed to say anything about Vatican II? It was probably platonic, like Francis and Clare, Padre Pio and his spiritual daughters...he often spoke of his "affection" for them and spoke as in the Song of Songs with them.

Also, probe the Institute for Christ the King which John Vennari used to support before the priest there was found tying young men to the bed and having his way with them. And ask why the SSPX is so often sending private detectives out to follow / shadow many priests suspected of immorality (so many stories of this from former priests themselves).

It is pitiful to hear Mr. Vennari wax vicious again as a dirt digger when he has his own dirt in his own crowd he is not revealing. Anything to persecute the Pope". It is soul sickness.

[sinkspur]

LOL!! Malachi Martin was one of the biggest media phonies to come down the pike.

But, put your helmet on. You're going to get slammed for questioning St. Malachi.

[McClave]

No helmet needed. It's all be said a thousand times. But the stubborn facts remain. There is MUCH more evidence for Martin's lifelong trysts than for Rahner's "girlfriend," at least as John Vennari presents it. See the recent letter from the jesuits confirming that Martin wanted and requested officially release from his vow of chastity, which the Vatican denied him.

Strange behavior for a traditionalist "saint" who didn't like Roman collars, preferring secular clothes and who said verrrrry weird things to Art Bell. Get the transcripts for that if you want to hear weirdness. But you'd better have a stiff drink next to you if you are easily shocked by hypocrisy. But, like all rogues, maybe he took to saying Mass for the stipends in the end after betraying his one time hero JPII.

[sinkspur]

But, like all rogues, maybe he took to saying Mass for the stipends in the end after betraying his one time hero JPII.

Saying Mass? He wrote "Left Behind"-type books, and took stipends from fringe radio stations in his later years.

And trashed the Pope, at length if not in depth.

[McClave]

I think the moral of all this is that it is not edifying and John Vennari is re-opening a bad can of worms and hiding others.

His real objective is to get at the Pope, obviously. It is Satanic.

He should drop it, pray for the souls of all and work on his own soul. Leave all others, especially the dead, to God.

[TradicalRC]

Yeah, but she managed to snag Carl Orff for a few years. I love the Carmina Burana!

[Land of the Irish]

He should drop it, pray for the souls of all and work on his own soul. Leave all others, especially the dead, to God.

You don't pray for the deceased? You must not believe in Purgatory.

[pascendi]

"There is MUCH more evidence for Martin's lifelong trysts than for Rahner's "girlfriend," at least as John Vennari presents it."

Really?

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

A certain individual has been posting A LOT of garbage in recent days bashing traditionalists in particular and now Catholics in general.

[Revenge of Sith]

Many traditionalists claim that Cardinal Siri was elected pope in both the 1958 and 1963 conclaves, but the KGB forced the Cardinals to dump him and elect John XXIII and Paul VI.

[Revenge of Sith]

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