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Spread of neo-paganism brings racism and violence [Russia]
AsiaNews.it ^ | May 21, 2004 | Not listed

Posted on 05/22/2004 12:58:59 PM PDT by Salvation

21 May, 2004 RUSSIA: Spread of neo-paganism brings racism and violence

Livna (AsiaNews/ agencies)- “Neo-paganism” has gathered such a following in the former Soviet Union that organizations, seminars and books are sprouting up throughout the country, claiming adherents. According to Viktor Shnirelman, compiler of the book “Neo-paganism on the Expanses of Euroasia”, St. Petersburg has become the main center of Russian neo-paganism, though cults and organized ‘churches’ have spread throughout every part of the country.

On May 13th there was the arrests of three suspects in two incidents of arson against the church of the Smolensk Icon of the Mother of God in the city of Orel, Western Russia. In February of this year in Orel, vandals at the Russian Orthodox church broke windows, destroyed bookstalls, and attempted to set the iconostasis, which was under restoration, on fire. They left a slogan on the walls saying, “The Jewish God will depart, praise to the gods” and a symbol resembling a nazi swastika. Later that month, in the same church, 250 boxes of devotional candles worth 30,000 rubles were set on fire in the building’s basement.

Not far away in the same province, a worker in the Sergius Church, in the city of Livna, discovered a note in the donation box containing a threat to set the church roof on fire. The incidents at the Orel church were mentioned in the note. An investigation led by the Directorate of Internal Affairs, which specializes in monitoring radical youth and occult activity, led to the arrest of 3 young people. A 23-year old unemployed graduate of the Orel Institute of Culture and Art admitted to the crimes, stating he had recently converted to paganism, and had been drunk during the incident. Another two suspects, both 19-year-old students of the same Institute, were also arrested.

“Traditional pagan beliefs have never been forgotten. Now they are being expressed more openly,” Shnirelman writes.

In Siberia’s Omsk province this month, a provincial court ordered the liquidation of three public pagan organizations. The Ancient Russian Church of Orthodox Old Believers of Inglia, the Asgard Slavic Community, and the Slavic Community of the Temple of the Wisdom of Perun were found to be in violation of federal legislation because of “ propaganda and display of the symbolism that is similar enough to Nazi symbolism as to cause confusion, propaganda of the supremacy of the white race and disparagement of national dignity.”

Russia was a pagan country until introduced to Christianity in 988AD. Now, Russian Orthodoxy is the country’s largest religion, though many of its members claim only nominal belief (J.C.)


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I thought this article was extremely interesting. New information for me.
1 posted on 05/22/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: fatima

As Our Lady of Fatima requested:

"Pray for the conversion of Russia."


2 posted on 05/22/2004 1:00:25 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Sadly, this is a price the Russians are paying for 70+ years of communist imposed atheism. I hope and pray that the Love and Forgiveness of Our Lord will turn the hearts and minds of these people toward the Path of Salvation.


3 posted on 05/22/2004 1:11:06 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: Salvation

Conversion from Atheisim or conversion from Orthodoxy to Latin Rite Catholicisim?


4 posted on 05/22/2004 5:44:49 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Conversion from Atheisim or conversion from Orthodoxy to Latin Rite Catholicisim?

Eastern Rite Catholicism will suffice.
5 posted on 05/22/2004 7:06:54 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die

Then that is a sinister thing because that is an attack on Russian culture by an alien dogma.


6 posted on 05/22/2004 8:50:11 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: wagglebee

**I hope and pray that the Love and Forgiveness of Our Lord will turn the hearts and minds of these people toward the Path of Salvation.**

Ditto!



7 posted on 05/22/2004 9:44:25 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation; Destro; MarMema; kosta50; FormerLib
"Pray for the conversion of Russia."

You're a little late. By about a thousand years.

Maybe your time would be better spent praying for Boston instead.

"According to a 2002 Boston Globe/WBZ-TV poll, 65 percent of Boston-area Catholics believe that the church should accept women as priests, and 74 percent disagree with the church's rule on celibacy."

*source link*

Sounds like 65% of Boston-area Catholics could use your attention.

8 posted on 05/22/2004 10:06:02 PM PDT by monkfan (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: Salvation
This may be news to you: Russia has been converted to Christ 1,016 years ago and has practiced Orthodox Catholic Faith since then.

Maybe we should pray for the conversion of Rome by the same token?

9 posted on 05/22/2004 10:45:32 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: wagglebee
Sadly, this is a price the Russians are paying for 70+ years of communist imposed atheism

One could equally argue that it's the price of rushing to introduce "democracy" in a country that never had one. Benefits of rapid westernization of Russia -- drugs, crime and now paganism. Be free!

10 posted on 05/22/2004 10:48:44 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Conservative til I die; Destro; monkfan; MarMema
Eastern Rite Catholicism will suffice

Why? So that we can have the problems we read about in Western Christianity? Peddling such "solutions" is hardly convincing, given the scandalous condition of various denominations in the west -- descerating the Eucharich, pedophilia, women "priestesses," "ecumenism" (where pagans worship in Roman Catholic sanctuaries), the moral and physical disintegration of the Anglican church, the pessimism of the Calvinists, the never-ending atomizing of the Protestants, and so on.

Why would any well-meaning Christian wish that upon anyone else? Russia may have its social problems but they are caused more by the so-called "westernization" then by the Russian culture. The Orthodox Church is free of all the pox some people in the west wish upon her. Thanks but no thanks! We don't need your pox.

11 posted on 05/22/2004 10:57:12 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; monkfan
Maybe we should pray for the conversion of Rome by the same token?

I think this would be a great idea.

12 posted on 05/22/2004 11:25:54 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Salvation
We hope and pray that your church is turned away from the interfaith ecumenical poison and the infighting so common here.

I also hope and pray that your church survives in Spokane, Washington where they say the huge number of abuse lawsuits may completely wipe out the diocese.

13 posted on 05/22/2004 11:28:38 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Salvation; kosta50; monkfan; Destro
Russia is doing just fine these days.

Newsweek - New York,NY,USA

Watch Out, Art! A new intolerance is sweeping Russia as religious and political fundamentalists attack artists, musicians and writers whose works they view as subversive
By Frank Brown
Newsweek International

May 17 issue - It wasn't the first time critics took clubs to art they didn't appreciate. Nor was it the first time they emerged as heroes, at least to some. But when six men barged their way into a Moscow museum last year, spray-painting and bludgeoning displays from a provocative exhibit called "Watch Out: Religion," it might well have been the first instance in recent times that art vandalism has officially been deemed a public good. Sixteen months after the attacks, the unpunished perpetrators are free-while the exhibit's organizers and three contributing artists prepare to stand trial. Their crime: inciting religious hatred, punishable by up to five years in prison. "It turns out that we weren't just the victims but the criminals, too," says artist turned defendant Anna Alchuk.

Russia is in the midst of a rollback of free expression that goes far deeper than the Kremlin's well-known crackdown on independent news media. In the realm of art and literature, in fact, it's all-out war. Religious and political activists have become increasingly vocal-and sometimes violent-in attacking the work of artists, singers and writers they perceive to be offensive. Among the most vocal is the 80-million-member Russian Orthodox Church, which some say has begun to behave like the censors of the old Soviet era. "These artists are rotten, disease-carrying bacteria, and society is using antigens to fight them off," says Father Tikhon Shevkunov, a powerful church leader (and President Vladimir Putin's spiritual adviser) who backs the offensive against "Watch Out: Religion" and its "blasphemy."

The new intolerance is not limited to Moscow. Last month, in largely Muslim Dagestan, a group of imams pressured the local government into canceling a concert by Boris Moiseyev. Orthodox protesters picketed another Moiseyev concert in Siberia. Why? The popular 50-year-old singer is openly gay, and neither the Russian Orthodox Church nor Russia's Muslim clerics can abide his flaunting it.

More ominously, the Orthodox Church has increasingly drawn support from the nationwide pro-Kremlin youth organization, Moving Together, a group that notoriously piled copies of Vladimir Sorokin's novel "Blue Lard" in the square outside Moscow's Bolshoi Theatre two years ago-then dumped them in a huge makeshift toilet as pornography. (The book features Joseph Stalin and Nikita Khrushchev having sex.) A criminal case filed by the Moscow prosecutor's office against Sorokin fizzled in court, but Moving Together didn't disappear. The group has since gone on to attack Jehovah's Witnesses and Scientologists, favorite bugaboos of the church.

Russian courts seem to be colluding in the crackdown. In April a Moscow court banned "The Book of Monotheism," an 18th-century Muslim tract, on the ground that it promotes fundamentalist Wahhabism. The book falls on the wrong side of the "need to find a balance between freedom of speech and national security," says one Kremlin adviser on religious affairs. Yet as Criminal Case No. 4616, as it's officially called, heads to the courtroom in the next month or so, religious activists are calling for even more judicial intervention. One leading Orthodox parliamentarian, Alexander Chuev of the nationalist Rodina party, has pledged to push through a law that would make it a crime to defame or dishonor Russia's "traditional religions." (snip here)

Perhaps Russian liberals expected too much in the way of free expression after the collapse of the Soviet Union. After all, ordinary Russians generally weren't ready for the onslaught of pornography, television violence and inflammatory literature that emerged after communism. Most were raised in a closed and puritanical Soviet society that regarded such things as public kissing (not to mention radical art) as shameful. Exhibitions like "Watch Out: Religion" are the polar opposite, designed to confront, expose and provoke. It's no surprise, perhaps, that last year's attack has since been duplicated elsewhere. In one disconcerting echo, vandals wearing camouflage and black masks burst into a St. Petersburg gallery in February and destroyed 30 works of art, including a near-naked Arnold Schwarzenegger painted as a religious icon. "This challenges the entire Orthodox Church and its centuries of culture," wrote one objector in the gallery's guest book, before smashing up the place. Perhaps the good news is that the artist, so far at least, has not been charged. (another snip here)

LOL, EAT OUR DUST while RUSSIA SWINGS WAY, WAY TO THE RIGHT. And which direction did you say your church was headed?

14 posted on 05/22/2004 11:35:18 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: FormerLib; katnip

Hmmm, now if they would just get some decent insulin in that country.....looking better all the time - for conservatives that is. :-)


15 posted on 05/22/2004 11:37:11 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Destro

You know that piece is good enough for its own post on the other forum, ya think? Can we repost Newsweek here, do you know?


16 posted on 05/22/2004 11:38:58 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Conservative til I die
Eastern Rite Catholicism will suffice

Orthodox Christianity will more than suffice, it will shine and blossom and grow, as it is now.

The Russian church is re-uniting and Russia is kicking out the liberals right and left. Russia is looking more and more conservative every day. We should only be so lucky here to have these "freedoms" removed from our lives.

LET HOLY RUS ARISE, as I have said a hundred times here in the last few years, and HOLY RUS IS EMERGING AS A LIGHT OF FAITH AND LOVE. Alone in the world these days, it seems to me.

10% flat tax, booming economy, and swinging to the right like we could only dream about here. All they need to do is get rid of the chechens and improve medical care.

My joy is overflowing at the good news from Russia these days.

Russia didn't need no STINKING PRAYERS OF CONVERSION. They did it without your whatever it is from Fatima.

17 posted on 05/22/2004 11:48:05 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: OldCorps; don-o; RusIvan; RussianConservative
Had to do it, had to do it. I love these words so much.

LET HOLY RUS' ARISE!
The Paschal Epistle Of the Most-Blessed Metropolitan Anastasii, the First-Hierarch Of the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad
1940

CHRIST IS RISEN!

Dear brothers and sisters, near and far, abiding both in the Diaspora and in our Fatherland.
Pascha, this festival of life, of light, of love and of brotherhood unites us anew into one family of Christ, enlivening the hope within us of the soon-resurrection of Russia. When the sun rises, it first of all gilds the tops of the hills, and of the trees, and of other tall objects; then it illumines the entire surface of the earth, penetrating even into the chasms of the earth, into mountain gorges, and into the clefts of rocky cliffs.

The same can be said of the quickening rays of the feast of Christ's Resurrection -- they fall first of all upon those whose hearts are always directed fixedly towards the heavens -- towards those spiritual peaks of Christian humanity; after which they embrace all other people with their gleam, not excluding even such as have generally become accustomed to slithering about in moral quagmires, without lifting up their eyes to heaven. And everywhere, wheresover the light of Pascha might extend, it gives rise to life and joy.

We -- wanderers and newcomers amidst other peoples that we are -- are fortunate indeed in having brought with us this precious pledge from our Native Land, which from of old so came to love and so profoundly to assimilate the grace-endowed suspiration of this festival. From the moment that Rus' came forth from out of her baptismal fount, she began to burn brightly with the light of Pascha, which ceased not to illumine the whole of her thousand-year-long history. Nowhere in the world does Pascha so obviously manifest its royal merit as the holiday of holidays and the triumph of triumphs as in the Russian Land. The latter truly was transfigured in those bright days; and, as the Bride of Christ, she did gleam then with joy and spiritual beauty.

As it once "was good" for the Apostles who found themselves in the rays of the Lord's Transfiguration on Mt. Tabor, in like manner did the heart of the Russian people take sweet delight in glorifying the risen Savior, and burned, as it were, with a radiance; and when the Bright festival would finally draw to a close and the triumphant paschal peal of bells -- of that wondrous heavenly music which had poured forth upon the unencompassable expanses of our Native Land -- would finally fall mute, then would our Russian folk return to their daily round of life, feeling a reluctance -- and even, as it were, some degree of sadness -- not unlike what the Apostles experienced in their descent from Tabor after the Transfiguration of their Divine Teacher.

It was in the light of Paschal radiance that there came into being that entire philosophy of life of the Russian nation which had become accustomed to seeing the entire world from the point-of-view of the eternal victory procured for us by the Risen Savior, Who had vanquished the power of hell and death. From hence sprung its (the Russian people's - ed.) moral fortitude; its exclusive serenity in enduring the blows of fate; the inner harmony of its heart; its peaceful resigned attitude to death; its unwavering faith in the final triumph of righteousness -- however much it might sometimes be scorned and abused on earth; this enlightened love of nature and of all men, whom [the Russian] considered to be his brothers, even though they might be alien to him by blood. It is here that one should seek the main key to the solution of all the mysteries of the Russian soul, which has not ceased from arousing the curiosity of the western world. However much the temptations of the world might delude and seduce him, the Russian believes unwaveringly that Christ alone is the Way, the Truth and the Life, and that outside Him, and without Him, there is no true happiness; and life itself loses its meaning, becoming an oppressive burden to its bearers.

Humanity can live only to the degree to which it is capable of renewing itself and being reborn in Christ, Who constantly repeats the miracle of resurrection over it.

The experience of these present times convinces us of this truth with especial clarity; although, unfortunately, in the main, it does so in a negative way. Observing world events around us, as they rush along in such a mad headlong dash, we see that the farther people depart from Christ, the farther they depart from the sources of life, and the more quickly do they draw near to death; or, to re-phrase it in a better way: they themselves draw her to them. We have examples of this before our eyes.

Turn your attention to those monstrous weapons which belch forth a thousand deaths; to those frightful explosives and poisonous gases capable of destroying multitudes upon multitudes of people, like insignificant insects, and of turning an entire region into a desert; is not all this the enlargement of the domain of death and hell -- poised, at present, to consume the entire world, which had been redeemed by means of the death and resurrection of Christ, the Giver of Life.

If the time has not yet come "to turn swords into plough-shares, and spears into sickles" -- for war is frequently inevitable as a restraining principle against the spread of evil, violence and injustice on earth -- then, in any event, Christian nations should hasten to soften its horrors, rather than multiplying for it its means of destruction and widening the very sphere of its murderous action, adding a so-called total character to it. These manifold underground shelters, with the construction of which states so occupy themselves during a war -- do they not speak clearly of the fact that people, by their cruelty, have deprived themselves of any right to live freely in the world, to take delight in the sun's radiance; and that they must, instead, hide themselves away in underground warrens from pursuing foes, in the manner of lizards and other creeping things?

Thus, departing away from Christ as the Source of Light, we again immerse ourselves into the chaos and darkness of barbarism. The very conquest of the elements: of the sea and air -- wherewith our age so prides itself -- by no means makes of man a true king over nature; rather, it makes him the victim of the latter. Having become accustomed to following her mechanistic, mortifying norms, he is prepared to surrender his whole life and culture to those selfsame laws of soulless mechanics, and not only that aspect thereof which is external and material, but even that which is internal and spiritual, sacrificing toward that end the royal freedom of his person and the autocracy of his creative reason. He desires to create not only a governable household, but governable thought, as well; and even conscience, applying to them that very same principle of compulsion which he applies to other spheres of life.

"Fraternity or death" -- this fearsome slogan of the French revolution, this "brotherhood of Cain" -- as one of the activists of the latter so accurately defined it, is being reborn anew in the XXth century, finding its reflection -- especially so -- in the theory and practice of communism, which attempts to inject this pernicious principle into the universal human consciousness. Having quenched in itself the luminary of the eternal commandments of Christ, contemporary cultured humanity has lost the measure of absolute truth and righteousness, having replaced them with conditional human truth, and sometimes even with outright falsehood.

It is not surprising that the world, having lost a firm moral foundation beneath its feet, is teetering to every side and submitting itself to the chance dictates of the moment: to considerations of benefit and advantage, first of all, which currently dominate all the loftier motives of human actions. Russian bolshevism brought the entirety of this sorry wisdom of the present age to the most extreme and crude degrees of its development; hence, our soul, as before, is repulsed by it, sensing the breath of hell and corruption in it.

However much we might thirst for the sooner rebirth of our Native Land, we would not want to see the kingdom of a Ching'his-khan or of a Tamerlane established there in place of Holy Rus' -- although each of these, to a certain degree, was more sublime and more humane than the merciless and corrupting ruling-organization of the Soviets; nor would we want to see an ant-hill of labor come into being there, descending deep into the earth and, as it were, become as one with it.

We desire to see our renewed Native Land as none other than free, radiant, joyful, peaceful, spirit-bearing, strong with the righteousness and love of Christ, rising aloft, like Jacob's ladder, from the earth to And we know that the risen Savior has the power to re-establish her as such, even were she to stink as badly as Lazarus, four days in his tomb. Although, to our consolation, she has not yet reached a state of total corruption, which usually bears witness to the onset of death.

Those who had the opportunity, in the newly-united Russian regions in Poland or in Finland, to meet face to face with the red-army boys who had come from simple peasant surroundings, bear witness with one heart and with one soul to the fact that the venom of communism has not yet had a chance to penetrate into the depths of the folk-organism and to poison its governing nerve-centers. Today's Russian has not yet forgotten the faith of his fathers, although he is forced to conceal it from the zealous gaze of the godless authorities. The Russian Orthodox soul yet lives in our people, and can easily put forth the shoots of new life, if the grace of resurrection but breathes upon it.

Arise, then, O Lord, our God; may Thine hand be lifted up. Forget not Thy wretched, miserable ones to the end. Let God also arise in the hearts of all the other nations of the present day, that they might extend to one another a mutual, brotherly embrace, having forgiven everything by the resurrection, and having ceased from the bloody fray; and that they might again acquire their spiritual strength, their happiness, and their true life in Christ, the Victor over hell and death.

April 1940. Belgrade.

18 posted on 05/22/2004 11:58:44 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Conservative til I die; Salvation
MOSCOW :
The list of Russia's largest fortunes released this month by Forbes magazine confirms the unique nature of the nation's booming post-communist economy, analysts say.

Russia's 36 billionaires boast 100 billion dollars -- 24 percent of the country's gross domestic product (GDP), according to the list of Russia's 100 largest fortunes published by Forbes this week.

"This shows that no other country has developed its capitalism as fast as Russia," Paul Klebnikov, editor of the Russian edition of Forbes, told reporters.

By comparison, the 277 US billionaires listed by Forbes control no more than six percent of their country's GDP.

The concentration of wealth in Russia sets it apart from other developping markets like China, which has only one billionaire, Klebnikov said.

In China, "there are lots of small and medium enterprises and large groups" controlled by numerous shareholders, Klebnikov said.

"In Russia, businessmen think that they have to keep control over at least 25 percent" of their enterprises, he said. "This shows the youth of capitalism in Russia."

Moreover, most of the Russian wealth was concentrated in the country's abundant natural resource enterprises left over from Soviet times, the survey showed.

"In total, two thirds of Russia's 100 largest fortunes were made in export of raw materials," and only 30 percent arose from companies set up in other sectors of the economy, Klebnikov said.

Russia's tycoons do not bear an easy resemblance to the US robber barrons of the 19th century. "I think that comparing Russian businessmen with people like (John) Rockefeller is a bad comparison because they created their industrial empires from zero," Klebnikov said.

In Russia, by comparison, the so-called oligarchs made their fortunes by scooping up industrial assets during the privatizations that followed the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991.

SNIP.

19 posted on 05/23/2004 12:02:53 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Conservative til I die; Salvation
MOSCOW :
The list of Russia's largest fortunes released this month by Forbes magazine confirms the unique nature of the nation's booming post-communist economy, analysts say.

Russia's 36 billionaires boast 100 billion dollars -- 24 percent of the country's gross domestic product (GDP), according to the list of Russia's 100 largest fortunes published by Forbes this week.

"This shows that no other country has developed its capitalism as fast as Russia," Paul Klebnikov, editor of the Russian edition of Forbes, told reporters.

By comparison, the 277 US billionaires listed by Forbes control no more than six percent of their country's GDP.

The concentration of wealth in Russia sets it apart from other developping markets like China, which has only one billionaire, Klebnikov said.

In China, "there are lots of small and medium enterprises and large groups" controlled by numerous shareholders, Klebnikov said.

"In Russia, businessmen think that they have to keep control over at least 25 percent" of their enterprises, he said. "This shows the youth of capitalism in Russia."

Moreover, most of the Russian wealth was concentrated in the country's abundant natural resource enterprises left over from Soviet times, the survey showed.

"In total, two thirds of Russia's 100 largest fortunes were made in export of raw materials," and only 30 percent arose from companies set up in other sectors of the economy, Klebnikov said.

Russia's tycoons do not bear an easy resemblance to the US robber barrons of the 19th century. "I think that comparing Russian businessmen with people like (John) Rockefeller is a bad comparison because they created their industrial empires from zero," Klebnikov said.

In Russia, by comparison, the so-called oligarchs made their fortunes by scooping up industrial assets during the privatizations that followed the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991.

SNIP.

20 posted on 05/23/2004 12:04:11 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: All
MOSCOW HAS MORE BILLIONAIRES THAN ANY CITY

"The Russian capital is home to 33 billionaires, more than any other city in the world, according to a new ranking by the Russian edition of Forbes magazine. More than Riyadh, Tokyo or London. More than poor old New York, which is home to just 31 billionaires."

21 posted on 05/23/2004 12:05:34 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: All
Russia boosts energy production

"Russia's oil production rose last month by almost 10 percent compared with a year ago, the Russian Federal Statistics Service reported Friday."

Russia's five core sectors post growth of 7.9% in 4 mths

"Real disposable incomes increased 11.5% year-on-year. The real wage grew 15.1% and the nominal wage grew 27.3%."

Russian Oil Companies Make the Most of High Prices

"Russia is the only country which exports oil and increases its production along with increase in demand."

Anti-Semitism in Russia Lower Than in Many European Countries — Rabbi

"The level of anti-Semitism in Russia is lower than in France and many other European countries, Russia’s chief rabbi Berl Lazar was quoted by Interfax news agency as saying Wednesday."

Americans Working in Russia: Building Capitalism Or Escaping It

"Some of the charm Russia holds for expatriates is the comparatively low rent and high salaries."

" Speaking of taxes, remember that Ben Franklin quote about death and taxes? Well, the Russian employers will generally pay the Russian taxes for you, and you don’t owe the IRS a red cent if you made less than $80K while working abroad."

22 posted on 05/23/2004 12:24:33 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: All
Orthodox Church Prays for Car Insurance

"Public prayer was held in St. Petersburg on Thursday for motorists who had made the mandatory liability insurance payments on their cars.

The service in the Petropavlovsky Cathedral had been commissioned by Rosgosstrakh-Severo-Zapad, an insurance company. It included a memorial service for Russian Empress Catherine the Great, the founder of Russian insurance business, and a prayer for the health of all drivers and their relatives.

Marina Bogdanova, the insurance company’s press secretary, was quoted by the Izvestia newspaper as saying that this is a “joint long-term project.” “Such public prayers will be held regularly and not just in the Petropavlovsky Cathedral.” She added that each person who purchased an insurance policy would be included in a special list to be mentioned in a prayer if he or she wished.

Drivers now receive insurance policies together with a little self-adhesive icon of St.Nicholas, a candle and a booklet about the prayer mentions. The icon is easily glued to the dashboard.

The company declined to answer how much it had paid to the church for these prayers, the paper wrote. Reverend Aleksander Fedorov who had performed the service, did not comment either.(snip)

23 posted on 05/23/2004 12:51:28 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: All
Pro-Putin youth rally

"The Going Together youth movement held a rally on Sparrow Hills in Moscow on Friday to mark the inauguration of President Vladimir Putin and the organization’s fourth anniversary"

"He recalled that since the movement was established four years ago it has held numerous actions aimed at drawing attention to the situation in Chechnya and on the Russian book market, as well as in support of the Russian Orthodox Church."

"Some 15,000 people took part in the rally"


24 posted on 05/23/2004 12:57:59 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
So, now outrage is called intolerance in the west? We, of course, couldn't dream of being outraged about anything in our society nowadays.We are too "civilized." Oh no, nothing outrages us unless it is from some other country -- and serves a good political purpose (like outrage over Taliban treatment of women but not of women in Saudi Arabia, or supporting a puppet government in Afghanistan at the price of tolerating the country's narcotic industry, etc.)

Better yet, we call tolerance what is really political correctness. The rights of those who are intolerant, indecent, disrespectful, even hateful of your culture, are promoted. The rights of those whose culture is being desecrated are ignored.

To put it plainly: the rights of the inconsiderate punks who blast their radios are respected, while their music is forcefully pumped into your ears, and through your walls. The fact that you would rather listen to something else or nothing else is irrelevant. In other words, in the "civilized" rights system, you have no right to be outraged over someone violating your ears. You are to submit, smile and tolerate your forced entertainment.

That logic explains a great deal of why we have problems in such quantities that we can export them to other places as something we euphamistically and proudly call "culture.".

25 posted on 05/23/2004 5:16:54 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: monkfan

**Maybe your time would be better spent praying for Boston instead.**

Wouldn't be a bad idea, either.


26 posted on 05/23/2004 5:36:55 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: MarMema

Is Newsweek believable?


27 posted on 05/23/2004 5:38:51 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: kosta50

Simple pistis is sufficient.


28 posted on 05/23/2004 5:41:21 AM PDT by Cvengr (;^))
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To: Cvengr
Simple pistis is sufficient

Indeed. The West could profit from it.

29 posted on 05/23/2004 6:41:39 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Cvengr
As one of marMema's article says: Pistis in its simple Greek meaning: True Faith. Pure Christianity.
30 posted on 05/23/2004 6:50:27 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Salvation
Is Newsweek believable?

Which source is believable? Do you have a list of absolutely believeable news sources?

31 posted on 05/23/2004 6:52:49 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Salvation
Is Newsweek believable?

Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day.

32 posted on 05/23/2004 7:08:18 AM PDT by FormerLib (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad.)
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To: MarMema

Man, did I just yank your chain or what? LOL.


33 posted on 05/23/2004 10:22:22 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: kosta50
This may be news to you: Russia has been converted to Christ 1,016 years ago and has practiced Orthodox Catholic Faith since then.

And was the first nation on earth to embrace Communist atheism; the anti-Christ state personified. Thanks, guys. Great examples of faith, there. But not to worry, the Roman Catholic west defeated it for you. Here, have your country back courtesy of our blood and efforts. Please do better this time.
34 posted on 05/23/2004 12:42:04 PM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: broadsword; kosta50; MarMema; Destro; FormerLib; RussianConservative
And was the first nation on earth to embrace Communist atheism

embrace? Is that the word? Like the way German Jews embraced Nazi fascism? Is that right?

But not to worry, the Roman Catholic west defeated it for you. Here, have your country back courtesy of our blood and efforts.

Ok, lecture us with a history lesson on how the Roman Catholic west defeated Communism in Russia. This I've got to hear. Please elaborate for us about the "blood and efforts" you mention. I heard it collapsed from internal problems, but obviously I was misinformed. By all means, set the record straight.

And don't let the sarcasm hit you on the way out, Holmes.

35 posted on 05/23/2004 3:37:40 PM PDT by monkfan (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: Conservative til I die
Man, did I just yank your chain or what? LOL.

Oh no, I had a GREAT TIME reading about all the changes for the good in Russia. I thank you for sending me to find all those articles. It was uplifting beyond measure.

36 posted on 05/23/2004 3:52:36 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: broadsword
And was the first nation on earth to embrace Communist atheism

Kind of like your priesthood has embraced pedophilia.

37 posted on 05/23/2004 3:54:15 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: broadsword
But not to worry, the Roman Catholic west defeated it for you

Blasphemy.

38 posted on 05/23/2004 3:54:54 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: broadsword
Great examples of faith, there.

Yours are much more enduring today, of course.

39 posted on 05/23/2004 4:00:07 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Salvation

Is Asia news a reliable source?


40 posted on 05/23/2004 4:00:32 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Salvation
putins faith

"In August 2003, an art exhibit entitled “Caution: Religion” opened at Moscow’s Sakharov Museum.

Among the featured artworks was a Russian Orthodox-style icon with a hole instead of a head, where visitors could put their faces and picture themselves as the Almighty.

There was also a Coca-Cola logo against the usual red background, but with Jesus' face drawn next to it and the words, “This is my blood.” A sculpture was featured of a church made from vodka bottles.

Four days after its opening, the exhibit was vandalized by six men. The group was detained and charged with hooliganism, but after a publicity campaign conducted by a Russian Orthodox priest, the charges were dropped. According to Kishkovsky, the vandals themselves were members of the Orthodox Church."

41 posted on 05/23/2004 4:15:01 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Salvation; monkfan; FormerLib; kosta50
Caution religion

A large listing of links with the same story as the one in Newsweek. So it looks like Newsweek is reliable.

"To Western eyes bombarded by provocative images, the items in the Russian exhibit might appear tame. But they were perceived as highly offensive by some believers. A poster by Aleksandr Kosolapov, a Russian emigre artist naturalized in the U.S., shows Jesus on a Pepsi advertisement announcing, "This is my blood." Sculptor Alina Gurevich used vodka bottles to create a church, a reference to the tax-exempt status the Russian Orthodox Church enjoyed in the 1990s. The court announced the formation of a commission of experts to determine whether the works incited hatred, a commission characterized as unfair by museum director Yurii Samodurov because it was not made up of art experts. If found guilty, under Article 282 of the criminal code ("incitement of ethnic, racial, or religious enmity"), the organizers could face heavy fines and up to three years of probation or even three to five years in prison if aggravating circumstances of a crime committed by an "organized group" are found."

"The lower house of Parliament passed a resolution condemning the museum and the exhibition's organizers. The criminal charges against four of the six men were dropped early on for lack of evidence - even though they had been detained inside the building. Then on Aug. 11, with several hundred Orthodox believers holding a vigil outside, a court here threw out the charges against the others, Mikhail Lyukshin and Anatoly Zyakin, saying they had been unlawfully prosecuted.
The court made it clear that an investigation should continue - not against those who attacked the exhibit, but against the museum itself.
The men who attacked the exhibit are members of his church in Moscow, St. Nikolai in Pyzhi. Some of them work there, and Father Aleksandr organized the campaign for their defense and against the museum. He compared the exhibition to a rape or a terrorist act.
Aleksandr B. Chuyev, a member of Parliament and, like Mr. Sakharov, a dissident during the Soviet period, disagreed. Closely allied with the Orthodox Church, he sponsored the resolution calling on prosecutors to investigate the museum. He defended the men who destroyed the exhibition, saying they had acted within their rights to prevent a crime. Democracy, he said, necessitates respect for the beliefs of others."

"She has covered a television screen with red paper, the center of which was cut out in the outline of Christ's face. Hence live news broadcasts flow out through this sacred image: "This a warning," said Koldobskaya. "Nothing we do can escape God's eyes."

You really have to see this page and read some of these stories. Christianity is alive and well in Russia. My heart overflows with joy and gratitude to God.

42 posted on 05/23/2004 4:21:53 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Salvation
"Pray for the conversion of Russia."

All it would take is a Catholic Pope, in union with all his bishops, to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

It's that simple; Our Lady promised it.

43 posted on 05/23/2004 5:56:30 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish

**All it would take is a Catholic Pope, in union with all his bishops, to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

It's that simple; Our Lady promised it.**

And I believe it. The tricky part for me (and I realize not necessarily you) would be in union with the Bishops.


44 posted on 05/23/2004 6:34:25 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
The tricky part for me (and I realize not necessarily you) would be in union with the Bishops.

I'm in full agreement with you. At this point in the Church's history, it would be very difficult for a Pope to get all his bishops in union with him. That is, unless, he threatens each and every one of them with excommunication if they refuse him.

45 posted on 05/23/2004 7:16:02 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish; MarMema; FormerLib; katnip
All it would take is a Catholic Pope, in union with all his bishops, to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

All it would take would be for the Roman Catholic Church to return to the Church of first Seven Ecumenical Councils, place all the innovations and new dogmas on the table and explain to the Orthodox why they should accept them.

Particularly, the position of the pope. From the documents when the Church was undivided, it is clear that the patriarch of Rome, whose title was papa (just like that of Alexandria's patriarch), did not rule the Church. He was first in honor and respect, but he shared his "rank" with other patriarchs. The Church Synod has been known to pass things despite his objections. Bottom line is: the pope was simply not what he is today.

When the pope was elevated to the position of a de facto ruler of the Church in 1870, almost one hundred bishops remained unimpressed and either voted against the resolution or left the Vatican I Council early so as to abstain.

If Rome is really interested in Christian unity, let's go back to the Church as it was when it was united and prove your dogma or change it. Talk of unity is just that -- empty words. If you are so sure that your dogams will pass, then there is no reason not to set the record straight.

We love you and we pray for you. But, let's correct the misunderstandings at the point where they happened.

46 posted on 05/23/2004 8:19:07 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: broadsword; MarMema; FormerLib; katnip; Salvation
And was the first nation on earth to embrace Communist atheism; the anti-Christ state personified

Communism was imposed by force. That's what revolutions do. They change order of things by force. In the case of Russia, the people involved in imposing its will on the population was a small but radical minority. So much for your expertise on Russia and your understanding of the world.

More importantly, communism failed to stamp out religion. After almost a century of state sponsored godlessness, Orthodoxy is back and growing in Russia. It survived in the hearts and minds of the Russian people, generations of them born in communism. That is the kind of unshakable rock on which the Church was built and on which it stands to this day 2,000 years later in the form of Orthodox Catholic Faith.

Russian Church faced the gates of hell and survived. Nothing could be a more evident proof of its true nature. Instead of giving the Russian Christians credit and praise for passing the test, you deny them even Christianity by rooting to "evangelize" them! How loving of you!

But, against the backdrop of the situation in Western Christianity, and its experiements, deviations, perversions, lack of faith or respect for the Eucharist, innovations, etc. one does not need communism. It seems, the rock on which your Church has been built is somewhat shakier than ours. But instead of rejoycing, we pray for your Church and its return to orthodoxy.

47 posted on 05/23/2004 8:39:39 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: broadsword
Here, have your country back courtesy of our blood and efforts.

Well, thanks for that incredible display of falsehoods and arrogance.

So, ever hear of a man named Jesus? By what you've added to this discussion, you could learn a few things from him.

48 posted on 05/23/2004 8:48:37 PM PDT by FormerLib (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad.)
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To: kosta50
Russian Church faced the gates of hell and survived

And is now about to become one again. GOD IS SO GLORIOUS.

49 posted on 05/23/2004 9:46:06 PM PDT by MarMema (“The church is a very narrow stream of clean water.” Aleksandr Shargunov)
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To: Land of the Irish

I realized that you agreed with me on that point. It was the Pope that I surmised we disagreed on.


50 posted on 05/23/2004 10:18:03 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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