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To: sinkspur; narses
Did either of you read the doggie-do written by a blogger,who appears to support Kerry,who purportedly ran into the former mayor of Rome,who sounds like a nincumpoop,who the blogger said, claims to have received communion from the Pope?

You know the story,stored in a Google cache,picked up by the Boston Globe and conveyed via MSNBC on a snapshot page,now tell the truth,did either of you read it?

27 posted on 08/09/2004 9:50:39 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: saradippity

Sure, did you? If it is a lie, let it be refuted. Our resident internet anonymous deacon accepted it at face value. He is an ordained clergyman. Why should you or I not accept it?


28 posted on 08/09/2004 9:53:53 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: saradippity

Here is more:

Pope Offers Communion to Pro-Choice Politician in Italy

http://www.bruner.net/blog/archives/012600.shtml

"I'm listening to NPR's Fresh Air this evening, with the guest John Allen, Vatican correspondent for the National Catholic Reporter. Terry Gross asked him about the whole question of American Catholic bishops prohibiting pro-choice politicians (read John Kerry) from receiving communion. Allen notes something that the Pope doesn't seem to have a problem giving communion to pro-choice politicians, which he reported on earlier in this article:

In January 2001, Rome's outgoing mayor, Francesco Rutelli, was the candidate of Italy's center-left "Olive Tree" coalition to be the country's next Prime Minister. (Rutelli went on to lose to Silvio Berlusconi). Rutelli's political background was in the Radical Party, which had led the battle for legalized abortion in Italy. As he moved into the mainstream, Rutelli took the classic position of left-leaning Catholics in public life: personally opposed to abortion, but not willing to impose his stance through law.

On Jan. 6, Rutelli and his wife Barbara, who are regular Mass-goers, attended the final act of the Catholic Church's Jubilee Year: the closing of the Holy Door at St. Peter's Basilica. Despite what in the United States would be termed his "pro-choice" stance, Rutelli came forward for Communion and received it from Pope John Paul II himself.


29 posted on 08/09/2004 9:54:49 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: saradippity

Also of note: In January 2001, Rome’s outgoing mayor, Francesco Rutelli, who had said he was personally opposed to abortion but would not impose his belief through law, received Communion from Pope John Paul II.

http://www.americancatholic.org/messenger/Aug2004/Editorial.asp


30 posted on 08/09/2004 9:56:41 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: saradippity

Demonstrating how divided the Church is on this issue (denying communion), in response to an article on the Cathoic World News web site, a writer asked: "On Jan. 6, 2001, at the concluding mass of the jubilee, John Paul II personally gave communion to Francesco Rutelli, who is one of the most active supporters of abortion in Italy. Does not the Pope lead by example and are not the bishops obligated to follow?"

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/abortion/a/08052004.htm


32 posted on 08/09/2004 10:01:08 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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