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No Shortage of Vocations From Conservative Parishes
The Catholic Sun ^ | Sept. 6, 2004 | By Mary Moore

Posted on 09/13/2004 12:43:09 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler

Dialing for young adults
Six answer God’s call, move toward vocational life

Bios

By Mary Moore
The Catholic Sun

God called, and six answered.

Six young people from the Phoenix Diocese will be leaving Arizona at the end of the summer to explore religious and diocesan vocations.

Photo by Mary Moore of The Catholic Sun
Amber Timmer is one of six young adults entering into religious life who was acclaimed at Café Fiat on August 20.

“Praise God from whom all blessings flow,” exclaimed Fr. Don Kline, diocesan vocations director. “Is there any doubt God is doing great things in the Diocese of Phoenix?”

The packed crowd at Café Fiat answered with loud applause as they recognized six people who have chosen to further discern God’s call to religious life.

Amber Timmer, Carrie Haney, Cody McDonald, Jalen Alexander, Trisha Engel and Tom Parks will be leaving Phoenix at the end of the summer to explore their vocations. These six young adults were acclaimed at an open house given by the St. Thomas Young Adult Community at the Catholic café on Aug. 20.

Mary Peterson, hostess of the open house, said the evening was a beautiful expression of vocations. “I am so glad we had this chance to honor the courageous decision of these six people.”

Photo by Mary Moore of The Catholic Sun
Fr. Don Kline speaks to the crowd about vocations at Café Fiat on August 20.

The Valley’s newest Catholic hotspot was overflowing with friends and family who gathered to pray, commend and celebrate the six men and women. Each gave testimony regarding vocations and the particular journeys that led them to this point of discernment.

Carrie Haney, a 28-year-old parishioner from St. Thomas the Apostle, is leaving to pray, work and study with the Religious Sisters of Mercy in Alma, Mich. She gave witness to the crowd on God’s creative and fulfilling plan for women in religious life.

“Spending time with the joyful, beautiful, and intelligent orders of consecrated women helped me to realize that our Lord chooses excellent ‘potential’ wives and mothers to be His bride and a spiritual mother for His adopted children,” she said.

She further challenged all present to encourage young men and women to consider the priesthood and religious life. “They hear messages every day about marriage and family life. Your encouragement may be the only time they consider God’s call to another vocation.”

Several of the guests of honor thanked Fr. Kline and others who had encouraged them in their journey. Jalen Alexander, who began his postulancy with the Norbertine Fathers of Orange County, Calif., on Aug. 27, said he was inspired by priests like Fr. Rob Clements who “carry themselves in such a way that brings a real dignity to the office they hold.”

Tom Parks is the sixth person from St. Theresa Parish to join the seminary. He believes the leadership his parish has been blessed with has helped parishioners discern their calling.

Each of the six men and women is looking forward to different aspects of discernment and religious life. Jalen, who says he would hope to also teach one day, looks forward especially to the intellectual challenge. Trisha Engel, who will be living in community with the Intercessors of the Lamb in Omaha, Neb., looks forward to Sundays that are entirely dedicated to contemplative prayer.

“I know people stood in the gap for me to bring me home [to Jesus], and I want to do that for others,” she said.

Following the testimonies, Fr. Kline blessed the men and women, and gave them words of encouragement. “We are so honored to be in your presence,” he told them. “To watch you respond to the call of God in heroic ways, in a time and in a society where that voice of God is so easily drowned out, is an awesome thing, an inspiring thing for all of us.”

Deacon Dick Petersen agreed, adding that the evening was an “awesome opportunity” to honor “six very holy, young people.”

Bios

 



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: arizona; catholics; conservative; phoenix; priests; seminaries
Four of the six young people deciding to devote their lives to God come from St.Mary's Catholic Church in Chandler, Arizona. St. Mary's is known as a conservative Catholic Church in the Diocese of Phoenix. The pastor of St. Mary's is Father Robert Clements, the "Father Rob" mentioned in the article. (Fr. Clements cringes when he is refered to as Father "Rob". He prefers to be called "Fr. Clements". If I had more time, I would post some photos of Fr. Clements canoing down the Salt River with me when he was a newly ordained priest.)
1 posted on 09/13/2004 12:43:11 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Salvation

How about some Catholic pinging here?


2 posted on 09/13/2004 12:44:42 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Thank you Rush Limbaugh-godfather of the New Media.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Bios

Carrie Haney, 28

  • St. Thomas the Apostle Parish
  • Occupational Therapist, Irish Dance Instructor at ASU
  • Vocational Discernment Destination: Religious Sisters of Mercy in Alma, Mich.

“While viewing the play ‘Therese, The Story of a Soul’ in 2001, I was first drawn to discerning religious life. St. Therese’s love for Christ and for the salvation of souls was a great inspiration to me.”

 

Jalen Alexander, 23

  • St. Mary Parish in Chandler
  • Political Science major, ASU
  • Vocational Discernment Destination: St. Michael’s Abbey, Riverside, Calif., Norbertine Fathers of Orange County

“I had a conversion experience a few years ago and a friend asked me to visit the Abbey with him. After several visits, I knew this is where God was calling me to be.”

 

Amber Timmer, 20

  • St. Mary Parish in Chandler
  • Student at Mesa Community College
  • Vocational Discernment Destination: Religious Sisters of Mercy in Alma, Mich.

“I was scared at first when I thought God might be calling me to religious life. Then after a year of prayer and setting aside my own will and my own desires, I visited the Alma Sisters. I fell in love with the community and the way of life, with the freedom to give your entire life to Christ. I found that it was amazing and fulfilling.”

 

Thomas “Cody” McDonald

  • St. Mary Parish in Chandler
  • Vocational Discernment Destination: Pontifical College Josephinum, Columbus, Ohio

“My whole life, I had been drawn to priesthood and inspired by priests that I knew and looked up to. I see so much growth and hope in our diocese. I’ve just really been inspired.”

 

Tom Parks, 25

  • St. Theresa Parish
  • Vocational Discernment Destination: Pontifical College Josephinum, Columbus, Ohio

“After the past year of service at Andre House, I knew that God was calling me and I knew that I wanted to continue to serve people.”

 

Trisha Engels, 43

  • St. Mary Parish in Chandler
  • Campus Minister at Seton High School for last 3 years
  • Vocational Discernment Destination: The Intercessors of the Lamb in Omaha, Neb.

“I was away from church for a long time, so when I came back it was such a powerful and profound experience I knew I wanted to do one thing with my life and that was follow Jesus Christ wherever He led me to. And He led me to community.”

 

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3 posted on 09/13/2004 12:47:18 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Thank you Rush Limbaugh-godfather of the New Media.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

New priests???!!!!!!
oh my lord what a big surprise everyone celebrate like madmen!!!!
This used to be a typically routine thing and was not a big deal. This is a perfect example of the absolute shot state the Catholic Church is in at the moment.


4 posted on 09/13/2004 12:57:51 AM PDT by TerrapinCalling
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To: TerrapinCalling

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

The point of the post is that there is no shortage of vocations from parishes where there is sincere devotion to God. In fact, it is routine.

Now go take your meds.


5 posted on 09/13/2004 1:08:06 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Thank you Rush Limbaugh-godfather of the New Media.)
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To: Jeff Chandler; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; ...
Wonderful news for your diocese. As one of the youth mentioned, greater emphasis today is placed on financially rewarding careers, rather than those which offer spiritual rewards.

The following article is from Zenit News Agency.

* * * * *

Date: 2004-09-12

Celibacy Seen as a Gift That Edifies the Church

So Says Father Cencini, Consultor to Vatican

SANTIAGO DE COMPOSTELA, Spain, SEPT. 12, 2004 (Zenit.org).- A priest who is not profoundly spiritual is "a poor celibate," says a consultor to a Vatican dicastery.

"Priestly celibacy is not an exclusive characteristic of priests of the Catholic rite, and even less so an imposition of the Church, but a gift received for the edification of the community," said Father Amedeo Cencini, when referring to the topic he alluded to during a meeting of seminary rectors and formators in Spain.

Father Cencini is a professor at the Salesian and Gregorian universities of Rome, and a consultor to the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life.

He explained during an interview with ZENIT that the Church "does not impose celibacy on anyone, it simply chooses priests among those who have received this charism."

"What is most important is that the celibate make these motivations his own and live his celibacy as a choice of love, with a thankful heart free of egoism, and with a profoundly spiritual attitude," he said. "If the priest is not profoundly spiritual, he is a poor celibate."

The priest continued: "The recent scandals of certain Churches must not lead to deception, because there is no scientific proof that shows that in the realm of ecclesiastical celibacy this type of problem is more frequent than in other realms."

On the contrary, "the testimony of a celibate priest, convinced of and happy with his celibacy, is particularly necessary today," Father Cencini said.

According to the expert, each priest "must continually ask himself if his celibacy gives testimony of nostalgia for God, if it is able to convey that to love God is not a law, an effort, a renunciation, or violence to nature, but that it is good because it opens the heart and opens one wide to others."

Father Cencini also alluded to scandals involving child sexual abuse that arose in some dioceses. "Pedophilia, as is known, is recurrent and, because of this, no one with these tendencies can be admitted" to the priesthood, he said.

6 posted on 09/13/2004 1:13:56 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: Jeff Chandler
My own parish, Most Holy Trinity, here in Augusta, GA has a similar situation. We have 3 men at various stages of formation for the diocesan priesthood (Savannah Diocese) and 3 in various religious orders.

The picture of the ordination ceremony shown on the link which I've posted is my parish church. It's fairly obvious from the picture and the demenour of the priests, servers and acolytes that this parish is not into hanky panky.

7 posted on 09/13/2004 5:42:49 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: TerrapinCalling

Ah, this is how the Holy Spirit works. Errors are promulgated in the Church, but since they are errors, they do not produce fruits. (Or they produce the wrong kind of fruits, if you know what I mean.) Not producing fruits, they are not sustained. Hence, prayer is much more successful than some of the tactics I've seen at this site.


8 posted on 09/13/2004 7:18:59 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Jeff Chandler; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...


9 posted on 09/13/2004 10:48:48 AM PDT by Coleus (God gave us the right to life; property, & self preservation and a right to defend ourselves)
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To: Jeff Chandler

If so many young men hadn't been sodomized as altar boys and seminarians, I suspect there would be more vocations today. Here's a pertinent recent traditio.com commentary which relates...

Just another proof of the Newchurch of Hypocrisy. JPII in 2002 supposedly told American cardinals in secret not to permit their presbyters to violate the young. Now, an investigative report by the Dallas Morning News shows that the pope's words were hollow. Rome is harboring the criminal perverts in Rome!

The News found that seven presbyters accused of sexual crimes, some of them runaways from law enforcement in the United States, are living in Rome around the Vatican. These priests are ministering with the full knowledge and consent of church officials.

The News found that the heads of religious orders who transferred sex criminals to the Rome office didn't bother to notify the Diocese of Rome about the alleged abusers' presence. Here's your quiz for today: who is the bishop of Rome? Why, JPII, of course! Does nobody who works for him take seriously his secret words on sex crimes? Apparently not.

If we accept JPII as head of the Church, we have to hold him personally responsible for allowing Novus Ordo bishops and presbyters to violate young Catholics. He has been publicly silent on the most vile crimes of his officials, like Abp. Rembert Weakland, of Milwaukee, who for years had an "affair" with a young catamite. The catamite attempted to blackmail the archbishop, who then stole some half a million dollars from the poor box, as it were, to pay off the blackmail. The archbishop, appointed by JPII, confessed his crime to the police a day before he was to be service an indictment.

The pope's comment: silence. Do we have a functioning pope? Or is he so spaced out that he is non compos mentis and can perform no valid action? Or is he so immoral that he would let his own officials violate young people and seminarians without so much as word of public chastisement? Whichever of the answers you choose, the JPII has to be the Bad Pope with the longest pontificate in the history of the Church.


10 posted on 09/13/2004 4:23:39 PM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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To: AskStPhilomena
If so many young men hadn't been sodomized as altar boys and seminarians, I suspect there would be more vocations today.

The number of young men abused, though too large by ANY standards, is too small to be the only cause of the lack of vocations. The prevalance of liberal and dissent filled thought at seminaries, coupled with the tendency to allow feminist nuns to sit on Seminary boards and pronounce 'fitness' on the young men trying to attend was the worst thing for the Church. These Seminary boards have routinely, for the last 20 years at least, kept young men who are orthodox in their Catholic practice and thinking out of the Seminaries and allowed homosexuals and those who would undermine the solid teachings of the Church IN.

Many faithful young men were discouraged, and gave up on the thought of ever becoming priests. Many other young men, seeing the state of the Church in their own parishes, with inadequate catechesis and lackluster preaching from the pulpit, probably made the decision NOT to devote their lives to such a mess. If these young men had been in active, faithful parishes, they may not have abandoned the idea of a vocation.

11 posted on 09/14/2004 8:26:24 AM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: TerrapinCalling

Is it the churches fault, or the fact that not many young people want to devote their lives in this direction?


12 posted on 09/15/2004 7:38:24 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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To: TerrapinCalling

Is it the churches fault, or the fact that not many young people want to devote their lives in this direction?


13 posted on 09/15/2004 7:39:32 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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