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Austrian Bishop Says He's Not Resigning
Catholic Exchange ^ | Sep. 16 , 2004

Posted on 09/17/2004 12:53:59 PM PDT by Land of the Irish

Vienna, Sep. 16 (CWNews.com) - Austria's controversial bishop at the center of a scandal involving his seminary on Thursday denied reports that he would soon resign. A spokesman for Bishop Kurt Krenn of St. Poelten said media reports of Vatican pressure on Krenn to resign on health grounds were wrong.

The Austrian Catholic news agency originally reported Krenn's impending resignation last week and Vatican sources confirmed to Catholic World News on Monday that while Krenn's resignation was not yet office, an announcement was expected soon. At the time, Michael Dinhobel, a spokesman for the bishop, told Austrian reporters that he was not aware of any plans for Krenn's departure, but that "if the Pope tells Bishop Krenn that he should resign, he will."

But now Dinhobel says the resignation reports are wrong. He said on Thursday, "Bishop Krenn has certainly not offered his resignation." Krenn also told an Austrian magazine that he was being mistreated. "I am suffering great injustice," Krenn told the weekly Die ganze Woche . "Our beloved Savior was also not well treated." The greatest level of public outrage concerning the scandal occurred when Bishop Krenn dismissed photos of seminarians and priests in compromising positions as "boyish pranks."

The scandal in Krenn's diocese erupted last month when local police arrested a Polish seminarian at the St. Poelten seminary on charges of storing and disseminating child pornography on a computer at the school. Other photos found in the course of the investigation showing seminarians and priests kissing and groping were later obtained by a magazine and published.

A special investigator was appointed by Rome in July to examine the situation in St. Poelten and offer his recommendations. One of his first orders of business was shutting down the seminary during the investigation.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: austria; bishop; catholic; homosexual; krenn; seminaries
The greatest level of public outrage concerning the scandal occurred when Bishop Krenn dismissed photos of seminarians and priests in compromising positions as "boyish pranks."
1 posted on 09/17/2004 12:54:00 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; Antoninus; apologia_pro_vita_sua; attagirl; ...

Ping


2 posted on 09/17/2004 12:55:28 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish

"boyish pranks."

Oh Holy Lord!


3 posted on 09/17/2004 12:59:38 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Land of the Irish
Cardinal Pell stepped aside, let the investigation exhonerate him, then resumed his seat and went back to kicking liberal @$$.

This dude wants to skate ... doesn't make him look good.

4 posted on 09/17/2004 1:07:24 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Land of the Irish

Morally obtuse prelates should be compelled to resign. But Rome exercises no such authority over bishops--unless they happen to be traditional--in which case the full force of Roman authority is somehow newly-discovered and implemented. Archbishop Lefebvre was not only routinely accused of transgressions without evidence, but for decades he was hounded and persecuted by a hostile Vatican bureaucracy.

This double standard is compounded many times over among the lower clergy. It took Rome a mere couple of weeks, for instance, to fire the duly-elected superior general of FSSP and some of his equally traditional and orthodox seminary professors--for a minor dustup regarding concelebration with Novus Ordo clergy. At the same time child-abusers among the clergy are offered every degree of compassion and canonical protection.

The truth is it takes more than a mere sex scandal to unseat a Novus Ordo bishop. Just ask Cardinal Law who gave a glowing letter of recommendation to a priest who openly advocated sex between men and boys and even knowingly assigned that same priest to posts that allowed him access to children. And yet this was just one of the Cardinal's many such failures in his role as spiritual shepherd. Despite this record, not only was Law's resignation refused by Rome when it was first offered at the height of the scandals, but when it was finally belatedly accepted, the Cardinal was soon after consigned to a prestigious Roman sinecure at St. Mary Major. So much for Vatican justice.


5 posted on 09/17/2004 5:33:32 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio

Bishop Kurt Krenn of St. Poelten reign? He's due a major apartment at the Vatican next door to Law.


6 posted on 09/18/2004 7:32:20 AM PDT by Pio (There is no Salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church)
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To: Pio
Re: "He's due a major apartment at the Vatican next door to Law."

They can be roomees :-D
I hope they enjoy it while it all lasts. They may be bunk mates in this world as well as the next.

Pray for them. But don't forget to pray for the children they failed to protect as well. You know a few of them will have a lifelong hatred and distrust of the Church because of the weakness of these men. They need our prayers just as much.

Wouldn't discipline have been much kinder to all involved?
7 posted on 09/18/2004 8:39:54 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South
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To: Mark in the Old South
I pray for Cardinal Law's turnaround and I've asked that God blesses him and I've said as much to him personally. I was at the Cathedral in the midst of the crisis and the poor guy was heading up the aisle after celebrating Mass. He looked up at me forlornly and I felt pity form him ,seriously. I think he knows he screwed up. I said to him, "Cardinal law, may God bless you." He cheered up probably relieved that I didn't bash him verbally. He said , "Well, God bless you."

I hope he plays the arch-conservative role in the next conclave (which I hope isn't for another 20 years.)

With any luck he'll block the ascension of Rembert Weakland to the Pontificate.

8 posted on 09/18/2004 12:46:23 PM PDT by Pio (There is no Salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church)
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To: Pio
I wish you were right, I really do. sigh. Alas rarely do prideful men see their own value system as part of the problem, They all too often rationalize that it was a mistake on their part one this one issue or that one thing. And that is the best of them to get them to see even this much as a mistake.

All too often they see the whirlwind around them and see themselves as victims of the hate in others not the source of the problem. How often have you seen an indulgent mother or father for that matter, that has raised a monster of a child, raised without discipline? They never let the child suffer want of punish for misdeeds. What do they do when the child grows to adulthood and does some very bad things, ie abortion, drugs, divorce, rob a convenience store? All too often they see others as the problem, "people just don't understand" "He's really a good boy deep down" "she shouldn't have to suffer all her life for this one mistake" "the guards in the prison have it out for him"

I have heard this stuff from Traditional Catholics. We have divorced Catholics in our Traditional parish. I know I should be more charitable but sometimes I want to scream like Dean. One lady in our parish has a mess of son. He has abandoned his wife and 3 y/o boy for his girlfriend. The wife is young and I must say stupid and no family. She has moved in with an elderly lady in our parish because she has no place to go. What does the Mother do? Her idea of helping is to let the looser of a son and his W#@$e move in with them. She "feels sorry for the stripper mistress" oh did I forget to mention she is a stripper. We were talking about Dr Laura's radio program, this lady said she couldn't stand Dr Laura, I shouldn't wonder.

I will pray for Cardinal Law but I haven't seen a change of heart that I can be sure of. I fear the sadness you saw on his face was more of regret for his own sake, but I do not know and to tell the truth I would prefer it if you were right. One thing for sure I would never trust him with such an important vote, I would rather you had it.
9 posted on 09/18/2004 1:22:06 PM PDT by Mark in the Old South
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To: Land of the Irish

Here is an article on a homosexual pedophile that the Chicago area educational community embraces. The local media interviewd his neighbors and they all said that he was a wonderful person. Barf!

This pedophile, along with his "partner" have adopted two young boys, but was now caught attempting to meet a young boy for a sexual encounter. Isn't academia and the lefties just wonderful!

This pedophile and the teachers union is definitely a Kerry supporter.


www.suntimes.com

Child sex sting nabs teachers union president

September 19, 2004

BY CHERYL V. JACKSON Staff Reporter

An Evanston teachers union president and gay-rights activist was arrested Friday morning for allegedly trying to meet for sex with someone he thought was a 15-year-old boy, but was really an undercover police officer, Lake County Sheriff's police said.

Robert Carroll, 54, was charged with two counts of indecent solicitation of a child after police picked him up at about 8:50 a.m. in a wooded area near Waukegan.

Police began investigating Carroll in June when a detective, posing as a 15-year-old boy, met him in an Internet chat room. Over the next three months, police said, Carroll and the officer in character chatted about different topics, including sex. Carroll recently made arrangements with the "boy'' for the purposes of engaging in sex acts, police said.

Carroll is in his second year as president of the District Educators' Council for Evanston-Skokie School District 65. Prior to his election, he taught at Kingsley Elementary School, according to district Supt. Hardy Murphy.

Murphy, who alerted school board members to the arrest Friday night, said he would meet with staffers by Monday morning to determine if any administrative steps need to be taken regarding the charges.

"We've got to get all of the facts," he said. "We'll gather as quickly as we can to review the facts and take the appropriate personnel action."

Police also seized a laptop computer that was in Carroll's vehicle as well as computer equipment found during a search of his Evanston home.

Carroll is the adoptive father of two young boys, including one recently adopted, Evanston Mayor Lorraine Morton said.

He and his partner in 1999 sued the Chicago Campground Association for $1 million, saying trustees of a Methodist campground in Des Plaines refused to let them rent a cottage there because they were gay.

Carroll's sexual orientation was never an issue in the school district, Morton said.

"I haven't heard of any problems or anything negative," she said.

Bond was set Friday at $30,000. He was scheduled to appear in court Oct. 6.


10 posted on 09/19/2004 10:23:52 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Land of the Irish
"Krenn also told an Austrian magazine that he was being mistreated. "I am suffering great injustice," Krenn told the weekly Die ganze Woche . "Our beloved Savior was also not well treated." The greatest level of public outrage concerning the scandal occurred when Bishop Krenn dismissed photos of seminarians and priests in compromising positions as "boyish pranks."

Hmmm. "Great injustice" at letting these "boyish pranks" happen??!!! Rightful public outrage at such "boyish pranks" going on in a seminary constitute "Our beloved Savior" being "not well treated???!!!"

The politest thing I can say to such callous chutzpah on the part of Krenn is that he seriously needs to change the brand he smokes. To say that homosexual behavior, especially in a seminary, constitutes just "boyish pranks" and that rightful scandal over such stuff equates to not treating Christ well is..........[fill in the blank with whatever term you wish]
11 posted on 09/20/2004 6:41:01 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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