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McCain National ID 'secretly' passed Senate on Friday
LibertyThink.com ^ | 10-7-04 | Rick Warden

Posted on 10/07/2004 7:05:10 AM PDT by Warden

Re 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


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McCain National ID 'secretly' passed Senate on Friday

Liberty Think | October 5 2004

Sen. John McCain's amendment 3807 to the 9/11 Commission bill S 2845 was quietly passed late Friday afternoon by "unanmous consent" after much of the Senate had already left for the weekend. This despite a promised debate on the amendment.

Call Sen. Collins' office and demand she open McCain's amendment 3807 for further amendments. The US Senate switchboard number is 202-224-3121 . Collins' number is (202) 224-2523. FAX is (202) 224-2693 .

The 9/11 police state bill S 2845 could pass as early as tonight. If not then, a final vote is expected tomorrow.

The version of 3807 passed is very similar to Title VI of the McCain Lieberman bill S 2774, with slight changes that may (or may not) hamper the ability of the Homeland Secretary to throw up checkpoints on highways. The process for standardizing state driver's licenses into a de facto National ID card is still in place; with additional provisions for a rulemaking process.

Please forward this message and CALL SEN. COLLINS and YOUR SENATORS -- TODAY -- to express your opposition to McCain's amendment 3807.

1 posted on 10/07/2004 7:05:11 AM PDT by Warden
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To: Warden

Is there another source to this aside from your Blog? Thanks.


2 posted on 10/07/2004 7:07:30 AM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: Warden
This despite a promised debate on the amendment.

How does that go again?:

"By the people, for the people...."

3 posted on 10/07/2004 7:07:38 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Warden; hellinahandcart; Carry_Okie; OWK; Noumenon; hosepipe; holdonnow; Congressman Billybob; ...

This is bad news.


4 posted on 10/07/2004 7:09:20 AM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Shryke

Yes! Call the phone number. Sen. Collins' office does not deny it. They will tell you that it passed. The number is 202) 224-2523


5 posted on 10/07/2004 7:10:17 AM PDT by Warden (ProtestGayDay.com)
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To: sauropod

Sometimes I wonder which side these people are on.


6 posted on 10/07/2004 7:10:59 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Warden

When they encrypt the ID card into people's foreheads, I'll figure it's the fulfillment of prophecy.


7 posted on 10/07/2004 7:12:49 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Warden

We already have driver's licenses. How is this worse, really?

< /devil's advocate >


8 posted on 10/07/2004 7:13:16 AM PDT by RockinRight (John Kerry is the wrong candidate, for the wrong country, at the wrong time)
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To: Warden

Hmmmm. 6 replies, 4 views. I've often supposed people replied to articles without having read them, but this proves it!


9 posted on 10/07/2004 7:14:09 AM PDT by dangus
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To: cyborg

Please call the phone number to Sen. Collins' office and demand she open McCain's amendment 3807 for further amendments. The US Senate switchboard number is 202-224-3121 . Collins' number is (202) 224-2523

Once verified PLEASE blog it. I will send it to Doug Kenline.


10 posted on 10/07/2004 7:14:13 AM PDT by Warden (ProtestGayDay.com)
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To: Warden

I can't make that call from here. Do you have any other sources?


11 posted on 10/07/2004 7:14:54 AM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: dangus

It is just another step towards the actual Mark of the Beast. Conditioning.


12 posted on 10/07/2004 7:15:36 AM PDT by Warden (ProtestGayDay.com)
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To: cyborg

The hogs are gettin' hungry again.


13 posted on 10/07/2004 7:15:51 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (My days of taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
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To: sauropod
This is bad news.

Yes. But don't worry.. you won't have to show it (the nat'l id card) at the polls. ;)

14 posted on 10/07/2004 7:17:53 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Warden

This is totally scary.


15 posted on 10/07/2004 7:19:58 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Warden

Believe me, I'm just as cautious (and believing in) the "mark" as anyone, but all this is (as far as I understand) is just putting "national standards" if you will on drivers licences. I think it's a good thing actually, to have a national standard for a generally accepted ID, instead of having one state be really lax in how they hand out DL's, thus enabling terrorists to go there, get an ID then be able to go ANYWHERE and open up a bank account, rent cars, GET ON PLANES....

I don't like McCain, I think he's a RINO, but I like this idea.

If you really want to keep track of how the "mark" most likely will occur, keep track of the activities of a company called VeriChip. There was a thread here on FR a week ago I believe where this club in Barcelona "chipped" some of its customers so they could buy drinks more easily. They used the ID chip that VeriChip already makes for animal identification. That's a TRUE "mark ON the body".

Like another poster on this thread said, "Until they start emblazoning our ID cards on our foreheads or hands, then I'll start worrying about a National ID card".


16 posted on 10/07/2004 7:23:22 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Warden

For those of us who are watching world events with a Biblical perspective....this is exciting....watching prophecy unfold!

Come quickly, Lord Jesus!


17 posted on 10/07/2004 7:25:57 AM PDT by americanMel (W...The President)
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To: Shryke

Katherine (said she can be quoted) at Senator Collins office (202) 224-2523, said That bill S 2845 passed in the senate yesterday, Wednesday 10-6-2004, by unanimous decision. The results are Yeas 96 Nays 2. She could not confirm that Sen. John McCain's amendment 3807 was or was not added to it.
The wording of the bill is not yet posted at: http://www.senate.gov
Please folks trust me on this one. It needs our immediate attention. Call your senator now!!! Post this information online everywhere possible. Please get to posting, blogging and sending emails.


18 posted on 10/07/2004 7:39:25 AM PDT by Warden (ProtestGayDay.com)
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To: Warden
I've been buying and selling for years. Do I have a mark?

No wise guy responses :)

19 posted on 10/07/2004 7:47:40 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: FourtySeven

I do not doubt your sincerity, but you need to see the bigger picture. The bible tells us that there will be a one world government along with a one world religious system. If you look at this from a biblical perspective instead of a “protect us from the terrorist” perspective you will be seeing the bigger picture. Ultimately God is our protector. Which is great because God is also the one who grants us liberty. The government has convinced the American people by and large that they are the grantors of liberty. Now they are becoming our protectors in a very convincing manner. The protection of the government is bondage liberty.


20 posted on 10/07/2004 7:48:54 AM PDT by Warden (ProtestGayDay.com)
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