Skip to comments.McCain National ID 'secretly' passed Senate on Friday
Posted on 10/07/2004 7:05:10 AM PDT by Warden
Re 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Liberty Think | October 5 2004
Sen. John McCain's amendment 3807 to the 9/11 Commission bill S 2845 was quietly passed late Friday afternoon by "unanmous consent" after much of the Senate had already left for the weekend. This despite a promised debate on the amendment.
Call Sen. Collins' office and demand she open McCain's amendment 3807 for further amendments. The US Senate switchboard number is 202-224-3121 . Collins' number is (202) 224-2523. FAX is (202) 224-2693 .
The 9/11 police state bill S 2845 could pass as early as tonight. If not then, a final vote is expected tomorrow.
The version of 3807 passed is very similar to Title VI of the McCain Lieberman bill S 2774, with slight changes that may (or may not) hamper the ability of the Homeland Secretary to throw up checkpoints on highways. The process for standardizing state driver's licenses into a de facto National ID card is still in place; with additional provisions for a rulemaking process.
Please forward this message and CALL SEN. COLLINS and YOUR SENATORS -- TODAY -- to express your opposition to McCain's amendment 3807.
Is there another source to this aside from your Blog? Thanks.
How does that go again?:
"By the people, for the people...."
This is bad news.
Yes! Call the phone number. Sen. Collins' office does not deny it. They will tell you that it passed. The number is 202) 224-2523
Sometimes I wonder which side these people are on.
When they encrypt the ID card into people's foreheads, I'll figure it's the fulfillment of prophecy.
We already have driver's licenses. How is this worse, really?
< /devil's advocate >
Hmmmm. 6 replies, 4 views. I've often supposed people replied to articles without having read them, but this proves it!
Please call the phone number to Sen. Collins' office and demand she open McCain's amendment 3807 for further amendments. The US Senate switchboard number is 202-224-3121 . Collins' number is (202) 224-2523
Once verified PLEASE blog it. I will send it to Doug Kenline.
I can't make that call from here. Do you have any other sources?
It is just another step towards the actual Mark of the Beast. Conditioning.
The hogs are gettin' hungry again.
Yes. But don't worry.. you won't have to show it (the nat'l id card) at the polls. ;)
This is totally scary.
Believe me, I'm just as cautious (and believing in) the "mark" as anyone, but all this is (as far as I understand) is just putting "national standards" if you will on drivers licences. I think it's a good thing actually, to have a national standard for a generally accepted ID, instead of having one state be really lax in how they hand out DL's, thus enabling terrorists to go there, get an ID then be able to go ANYWHERE and open up a bank account, rent cars, GET ON PLANES....
I don't like McCain, I think he's a RINO, but I like this idea.
If you really want to keep track of how the "mark" most likely will occur, keep track of the activities of a company called VeriChip. There was a thread here on FR a week ago I believe where this club in Barcelona "chipped" some of its customers so they could buy drinks more easily. They used the ID chip that VeriChip already makes for animal identification. That's a TRUE "mark ON the body".
Like another poster on this thread said, "Until they start emblazoning our ID cards on our foreheads or hands, then I'll start worrying about a National ID card".
For those of us who are watching world events with a Biblical perspective....this is exciting....watching prophecy unfold!
Come quickly, Lord Jesus!
Katherine (said she can be quoted) at Senator Collins office (202) 224-2523, said That bill S 2845 passed in the senate yesterday, Wednesday 10-6-2004, by unanimous decision. The results are Yeas 96 Nays 2. She could not confirm that Sen. John McCain's amendment 3807 was or was not added to it.
The wording of the bill is not yet posted at: http://www.senate.gov
Please folks trust me on this one. It needs our immediate attention. Call your senator now!!! Post this information online everywhere possible. Please get to posting, blogging and sending emails.
No wise guy responses :)
I do not doubt your sincerity, but you need to see the bigger picture. The bible tells us that there will be a one world government along with a one world religious system. If you look at this from a biblical perspective instead of a protect us from the terrorist perspective you will be seeing the bigger picture. Ultimately God is our protector. Which is great because God is also the one who grants us liberty. The government has convinced the American people by and large that they are the grantors of liberty. Now they are becoming our protectors in a very convincing manner. The protection of the government is bondage liberty.
Now maybe we can rid ourselves of "them" damned ol' illegal mexicans... and keep track of the legal ones.. maybe
I do not know, do you? I know that I do not have the mark! We all have been conditioned and will continue to be condition in a greater manner to receive the mark of the beast. When the actual mark of the beast rolls out onto the world stage people will be so conditioned they will line up to receive. People will not be able to get the mark of the beast fast enough. The one world religious government system will have had convinced most everyone that the mark of the beast is good for them. Especially is they want to buy food.
However, I think Apoc 13:16 also might refer to the past and the fact that Potelmy 1st (217 b.c.) branded Jews with the stamp of Dionysos. (Not all of them, just those that submitted to him)
Circumcision was another way to keep track of the Jews. It was probably a litte embarassng asking for their ID though.
Seriously, considering the lack of technology in those days, circumcision was the 'chip' of the early days. Was it used to buy and sell?
Maybe because this is posted in the religion forum and not getting any play in the main forum.
This should be breaking news, IMO.
No islamic will go for that.
one world religious system. Where?
That is my point exactly. You have to understand what a one world religious system would be. There are many main stream religions that all have one thing in common. There is only one religion that differs from all the others. It is a difference of salvation in eternity. All religions, but one, teach that salvation can be obtained in part by keeping the standards, of what that particular religion claims to be, from their God. Christianity (Acts 26:28) of the Holy Bible teaches that Salvation is through the finished works of Christ alone. Good works do not affect salvation in eternity in any form.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ro 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Ro 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
When the religious leader of the largest system in the world performs great miracles, he will say they are signs and miracles from God. People of all works based faiths will unite under him for the common good of mankind. He will teach that all religions are from the same God and valid as such. This spirit is already in the world. It is kind of like the Anything, but Bush spirit that we see prevalent during the elections this year. The Moslems will embrace the Religious system that says they do not have to change in a united effort to get rid of true Christianity. The world and especially Muslims are conditioned to accept these types of deceptive miracles as being from God.
Anything, But Christianity The New World Order
I'm not a moderator, but I think your reasoning is flawed. 6 people viewed AND responded, while 4 people ONLY viewed, for a total of 10.
You can't respond if you don't view (not that I did not say read).
so when the count of how many views does NOT include those who viewed and responded?
I think that's a question for a moderator, but that is what I think is the case, as how could you respond if you didn't view.
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