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Pro-Homosexual United Methodists Urged to Exit Denomination Graciously
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| 18 Oct 04
| Jim & Jody Brown
Posted on 10/19/2004 8:34:40 AM PDT by xzins
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:34:40 AM PDT
by
xzins
To: All
Tooley also notes parts of the UMC that support homosexuality are experiencing the fastest declines in membership. According to an IRD press release, United Methodism has been declining in the United States for four decades, especially in the more liberal regions. At the same time, it was growing slightly in the U.S. South and "growing strongly" outside the U.S.
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:35:06 AM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
To: xzins
In a statement adopted in September 2002, that group accuses the UMC of a "sin of exclusion" that "manifests itself as white privilege, male privilege, heterosexual privilege, economic privilege and other privileges through imperialism, domination, arrogance and violence." I don't know why...but that is just too funny.
Privilege through imperialism. It should be on a bumper sticker LOL.
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:37:43 AM PDT
by
BureaucratusMaximus
("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
To: xzins
Since the goal of these people is to take over societal institutions in order to normalize sin, they will not leave.
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:38:10 AM PDT
by
Protagoras
(When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside)
To: xzins
Well this is a good development. The large denominations should take note..you can't rewrite the doctrine of the Christian Church to suit your beliefs but must adjust your beliefs to conform to Christ and His Church.
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:39:30 AM PDT
by
DSBull
(Leather Belts, with Liberal logic everywhere they are keeping my head from exploding)
To: BureaucratusMaximus
I agree.
I read the "imperialism" thing and nearly gagged.
And all I had to drink at the time was cold coffee....2 bleaghhhs in a row!
:>)
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:39:58 AM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
To: DSBull
The large denominations should take note..you can't rewrite the doctrine of the Christian Church to suit your beliefs but must adjust your beliefs to conform to Christ and His Church.
Isn't that what the Catholic Chruch told Martin Luther?
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:41:19 AM PDT
by
BikerNYC
To: Protagoras
The problem is that these folks are leaches. Similar to the non-procreative nature of homosexuality, the pro-homosexual religionists do not grow.
They feed off of those who do grow.
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:42:25 AM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
To: xzins
Mark Tooley is a member of my local church.
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:43:26 AM PDT
by
bmwcyle
(I wear sleepwear therefore I think (When they are off I am single minded))
To: BureaucratusMaximus
Sounds like pyschobabble. So many big words, they must know what they are talking about.
To: BikerNYC; DSBull
There is no church without that which has been handed down from Christ via the Apostles.
We believe in Him through their word.
They rejected homosexuality.
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:44:26 AM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
To: bmwcyle
You are so lucky.
Thank him from many of us for his courage.
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:45:42 AM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
To: xzins
There is no church without that which has been handed down from Christ via the Apostles.
Isn't that what the Catholic Church told Martin Luther?
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:46:07 AM PDT
by
BikerNYC
To: Protagoras
That's the problem with evil. Once it has infested and taken root in these organizations, any attempt to oust them will be portrayed as those of extreme right-wingers. Should they split, with the true Methodists forming anew, they will be branded as extremists who have broken away from the "real" Methodist church.
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:46:48 AM PDT
by
kenth
(Hollow plan from the Hollow Man...)
To: BikerNYC
I'm fairly sure it might be, but I don't think they mean what I mean, nor what Martin Luther meant.
Apostolic must include 2 things:
1. First, in the lineage of Apostolic Spiritual Truth.
2. Second, but less important, is in the lineage of apostolic ordination.
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:50:11 AM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
To: xzins
Perhaps conservative Methodists saw what's happening to ECUSA and decided to take preemptive action.
I may be incorrect, but it seems that the denominations that ordain women are having homosexuality problems while the denominations that don't ordain women don't have these problems.
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:53:56 AM PDT
by
bobjam
To: xzins
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:55:35 AM PDT
by
bmwcyle
(I wear sleepwear therefore I think (When they are off I am single minded))
To: BikerNYC
Might have, but the issue was different with Luther..The Roman Church was rife with Corruption at the time, but that is another story...
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:57:28 AM PDT
by
DSBull
(Leather Belts, with Liberal logic everywhere they are keeping my head from exploding)
To: xzins
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:58:27 AM PDT
by
DSBull
(Leather Belts, with Liberal logic everywhere they are keeping my head from exploding)
To: bobjam
I may be incorrect, but it seems that the denominations that ordain women are having homosexuality problems while the denominations that don't ordain women don't have these problems.
What's the largest worldwide Christian church that does not ordain women?
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posted on
10/19/2004 8:58:33 AM PDT
by
BikerNYC
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