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PROPHETIC SIGNS THAT WE ARE IN THE END TIMES [A good summary of SOME key evidences--QX]

Posted on 11/07/2004 8:40:35 PM PST by Quix

Prophetic Signs that we are in the End Times

Contender Ministries


The Bible gives many examples of signs that should warn us of the coming end of the age. Six such signs are given by Jesus, two characteristics are given by Paul, and eleven other occurrences are given by the prophets to occur prior to or soon after the end of the age. While we are also told we will not know the time of the End, God obviously wanted us to know when that time was getting closer. As the Christian church is increasingly drawn into the interfaith movement, and as more and more churches go into isolation, preparing to sleep through the growing attacks on their faith, perhaps God knew it would take a few signs to wake us up and remind us that we have work to do.

Unfortunately, many Christians take the verses that tell us we won't know the time of His coming to mean they should ignore any and all scripture that might warn us of this time of tribulation. Others have fallen into the trap of fearing being labeled a "conspiracy theorist" should they display an interest in the Biblical prophecies about our future on Earth. My philosophy is simple. God included it in the Bible and, since God is all knowing, we should trust that it is something we should know and study along with the rest of His Word.

It is increasingly obvious that the time of our Lord's coming is drawing near. Prophecy is being fulfilled daily, and at a faster pace than ever before. Whether you believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, or believe Christians will be witness to the full tribulation, wrath, and final judgments, matters not. The beginning of birth pains and the signs of the times should have the same effect on all of us. It should motivate us to save as many souls as we can in the time that we have left. The Great Commission tells us to be disciples to all nations, bringing the message of salvation through Christ to all people. If the Church is raptured before the tribulation, it is important that we leave behind an explanation for the trials and judgments those left behind will face. How else will they recognize the deception of the anti-Christ and seek instead the truth of the Bible? If we are to endure the tribulation along side them, we will need to be prepared to not only share the message of salvation, but share with them the reasons for God's judgment and hold it up as further proof of their need to be saved.

Below is a study of the prophetic signs God gave us as a warning of the approaching end of the age. Many of them are being fulfilled now and many will be fulfilled in the near future. I would encourage you to study prophecy, know what is coming and be prepared to share it with others.




In Matthew24:3 Jesus was asked, "Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming, and of the end of the age?" Jesus told his apostles to look for the following signs prior to his second coming and the end of the age.


Matthew 24:5 "For many will come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and will mislead many."

Matthew 24:11 "And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many."

In the last several years many have claimed to be the Messiah. Jim Jones and David Koresh are examples of these false christs as well as countless others who are not as newsworthy. These false prophets are a prelude to the ultimate false christ, the antichrist. Many New Age groups, some even NGO's working for the United Nations, are anxiously awaiting the antichrist, preparing the way for his acceptance as the head of the hierarchy of gods and the one who will usher in world peace.


Matthew 24:6 "And you will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end."

Rumors of wars in all areas of the world now occur frequently thanks to instant media coverage and the availability of a multitude of 24-hour news sources.

Matthew 24:7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes."

More people have been killed in warfare in this century than at any other time in history. As the death toll rises in the Middle East, more and more countries work feverishly to develop devastating weapons of mass destruction. Add to that the expanding threat of terrorism and unpredictable dictators such as Saddam Hussein, and the potential for the outbreak of war exists in nations, kingdoms and places across the globe.


Matthew 24:7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes."

As white, Christian farmers are driven out of Africa in increasing numbers, and foreigners move in to replace life-sustaining crops with poppies that now supply 25% of the worlds drugs, famine spreads across the African continent. The undernourished are not limited to Africa, however. A large portion of the worlds 5 billion people suffers from a shortage of food.


Matthew 24:7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes."

The number and intensity of earthquakes this century is at a level higher than any other time in history. A staggering number of seismic events occur around the world daily. The earthquake seismic monitor IRIS shows all major earthquakes for the last year. Indicated by yellow and red circles, the seismic events of the last 15 days provides strong evidence of the fulfillment of Matthew 24:7 in our day. By contrast, in the years from 1890 to 1900 there was only one major earthquake in the world.


Matthew 24:8-9 "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs. Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations on account of my name."

Christians are under attack throughout the world today. In the United States Christians still enjoy freedom to worship God without suffering much more than ridicule, hatred, or discrimination at work and school. However in many other countries such as China, Sudan, Africa, Saudi Arabia, Korea, Russia, and many Muslim nations, Christian suffer much greater persecution and often times death for their faith. During the tribulation this suffering will be worldwide and will continue even to the point of martyrdom. These first 5 signs will increase in intensity and severity as the tribulation approaches, much like the birth pangs or contractions of a pregnant woman worsen as the delivery time approaches.


Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a witness to all the nations, and then the end shall come."

This prophecy has already been fulfilled through television, radio, missionaries, the translation of the Bible into many languages, and the internet. People all over the world now hear the message of Christ from missionaries who have the means to travel the globe, and via technology that allows us to communicate with people on the other side of the world right from our own homes, churches and offices.





II Timothy 3:1-5,7 "But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of god; holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

For anyone who has watched television, read a newspaper, lost a retirement to corporate greed and corruption, or just walked outside their front door, it is obvious this prophecy has been fulfilled by our generation. Our leaders are often corrupt; our cities are filled with crime, brutality, and neon signs proclaiming our sinful, godless nature. The New Age Movement brings in increasing numbers of mystics who claim to be the enlightened ones. They are some of the most educated and influential people in our societies, and yet the most lacking in real truth.


I Timothy 4:1-3 "But the spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons. By means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth."

Churches today are becoming more and more ecumenical, embracing the New Age interfaith agenda, and denying Christ as the only way to salvation. Giving in to the politically correct media and a corrupt society, they have embrace homosexuality as an acceptable alternate lifestyle and preach tolerance and compromise in place of God's truth for the salvation of the world. The environmentalist movement within the New Age movement lures them into a worship of mother earth, belief in past lives, reincarnation, and Karma while demonizing all those who would eat the meat God gave us as nourishment for our bodies.





Revelation 9:16 "And the number of the armies of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them."

An army of that size had never existed until China's army reached that number in the 1960's.


Daniel 2:32-33 "The head of the statue was made of fine gold, its breast and its arms of silver, its belly and its thighs of bronze, its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay."

Daniel 2:40-43 "Then there will be a fourth kingdom as strong as iron; inasmuch as iron crushes and shatters all things, so like iron that breaks in pieces, it will crush and break all these in pieces. And in that you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it will be a divided kingdom; but it will have the toughness of iron, and partly of pottery, so some of the kingdom will be strong and part of it will be brittle. And in that you saw the iron mixed with clay, they will combine with one another in the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, even as iron does not combine with pottery."

The fourth kingdom of iron is the Roman empire according to Daniel's interpretation of King Nebuchadnezzar's dream. The two legs are the division of the Roman empire into an eastern portion called the Byzantine empire which ended in the 1400's and a western portion based in Rome which ended in the 400's. The nations of Europe since the Roman empire dissolved have never adhered or formed one empire but continue as separate nations, however, the European Union now has 15 Member States and is preparing for the accession of 13 eastern and southern European countries.


Zephaniah 3:9 "For then I will return to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent."

Prior to the restoration of Israel in 1948, Hebrew was a dead language. Now Hebrew is spoken throughout Israel.


For several end time prophecies to be fulfilled, the temple will have to be rebuilt.

Revelation 11:2 "Leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it, for it has been given to the nations; and they will tread under foot the oly city for forty-two months."

Daniel 9:27 "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolation, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."

Daniel 9:26 "Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary."

Some archeologists believe that the temple mount is actually 340 feet south of the Dome of the Rock site, putting the Dome of the Rock within the Court of the Gentiles. This may be the court outside the temple that is left out.

There are many groups already working on preparations for the new temple. The blueprints are already done, the temple garments have been made, and there have already been attempts to lay the cornerstone of the temple. The only thing standing in the way of the construction of the new temple is Islam's third holiest site, the Dome of the Rock and government support for such an undertaking. Some possible scenarios for the rebuilding of the temple are as follows:

1. The persuasion and performing of miracles by the Antichrist and False Prophet convinces the Islamic world to approve the rebuilding.

2. The United Nations will negotiate the rebuilding of the temple following a war with the armies from the North (Russia and Islamic forces). This assumes that the war with the armies from the North is not the battle of Armageddon as some feel and that this attack occurs before the rapture or tribulation period begins. The supernatural destruction of the Russian army and Islamic forces will cause an outpouring of Christian worship and zeal amongst the Jewish people who will reconstruct the temple.

3. It is determined that the site of the first two temples is actually south of the Dome of the Rock, and the court of the gentiles (Dome of the Rock) will be left out of the 3rd temple.

A group in Israel called the Temple Mount Faithful have obtained most of the clothing, instruments and other equipment required for temple worship and are actively preparing for the laying of the third temple's cornerstone.


Numbers 19:2-7 "This is the statute of the law which the Lord has commanded, saying, "Speak to the sons of Israel that they bring you an unblemished red heifer in which is no defect and on which a yoke has never been placed. "You shall give it to Eleazar the priest, and it shall be brought outside the camp and be slaughtered in his presence. Next Eleazar the priest shall take some of its blood with his finger and sprinkle some of its blood toward the front of the tent of meeting seven times. "Then the heifer shall be burned in his sight; its hide and its flesh and its blood, with its refuse, shall be burned. "The priest shall then wash his clothes and bathe his body in water, and afterward come into the camp, but the priest shall be unclean until evening."

A red heifer will be required to be used in the process of purification described in the book of Numbers. In May 1997 the first Red Heifer was born in 2000 years. Another red Heifer was born in Israel in March of 2002.


Daniel 12:4 "But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase."

Billy Graham was quoted as saying, "ninety percent of all the engineers and scientists who have ever lived are alive today." Air travel, space travel, DNA research and human cloning are all examples of the rapid increase in knowledge in our generation.


Zephaniah 3:10-11 "From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia My worshipers, My dispersed ones, will bring My offerings. In that day you will feel no shame because of all your deeds by which you have rebelled against Me; For then I will remove from your midst your proud, exulting ones, and you will never again be haughty on My holy mountain."

In 1984, Operation Moses saw the airlift of 15,000 Jews who had already fled to refugee camps in Sudan to escape starvation. In 1991, Operation Solomon flew 20,000 Jews to Israel from Ethiopia itself. A further airlift began in June of 1999, aimed at transporting the last 3,000 members of the Quara Jewish community from northeastern Ethiopia to Israel.


Ezekiel 38:2,4,8 "Son of man, set your face toward Gog of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him. I will turn you about and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them splendidly attired, a great company with buckler and shield, all of them wielding swords. After many days you will be summoned; in the latter years you will come into the land that is restored from the sword, whose inhabitants have been gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel which had been a continual waste; but its people were brought out from the nations, and they are living securely, all of them."

In order for some end time events to occur Russia will have to be a strong nation with a strong military.


Jeremiah 23:7-8 "Therefore behold, the days are coming declares the Lord, when they will no longer say, as the Lord lives, who brought up the sons of Israel from the land of Egypt, but as the Lord lives, who brought up and led back the descendants of the household of Israel from the north land and from all the countries where I have driven them. Then they will live on their own soil."

In the 1970's and 1980's there was a mass exodus of Russian Jews out of Communist Russia. In 1999 the Associated Press reported a dramatic increase in the number of Jewish immigrants from Russia, bringing the largest number of Russian Jews to Israel since the early 1990's.


Revelation 13:16-17 "And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name."

On May 10, three members of a family in Florida became the first people to receive the biochip implant. Each device, made of silicon and called a VeriChip, is a small radio transmitter about the size of a piece of rice that is injected under a person's skin. It transmits a unique personal ID number whenever it is within a few feet of a special receiver unit. VeriChip's maker describes it as "a miniaturized, implantable, radio frequency identification device (RFID) that can be used in a variety of security, emergency and healthcare applications."

Is the biochip the mark of the beast to be used by the antichrist? We can't really know. What is significant is that people are being softened to the idea of a mark or an implant as a means of maintaining security, providing medical information, and regulating a more interdependent world. As attitudes change, fears subside, and people are convinced of the need for such a mark, the true mark of the beast will be easily introduced to the world by the antichrist.


The United Nations, World Trade Organization, International Criminal Court, UN peacekeeping/police force, numerous UN NGO's, and other agencies are preliminary steps to the formation of a one world government. We now have the communications technology, transportation, and the pro-globalization media necessary to usher in the one world government headed by the antichrist. The increasing terrorist threat and the middle east conflict will only speed up the formation of this governing body as fear and promises of better security make more people willing to give up their national sovereignty for global governance.


Revelation 11:3, 7-10 "And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophecy for twelve hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth. When they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the abyss will make war with them, and overcome them and kill them. And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which mystically is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified. Those from the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations will look at their dead bodies for three and a half days, and will not permit their dead bodies to be laid in a tomb. And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and celebrate; and they will send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth."

Television and the 24-hour news networks make it possible for people around the world to see the dead prophets and rejoice at their deaths.

Luke 21:28 "But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."

Luke 21:32 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all things take place."

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To: Quix; JockoManning; All

And more:

'With each passing day, we are one day closer to our Lord's return.

'However, we are also one day closer to the approaching darkness. Let us all begin today in searching our hearts and seeking the face of God to see if perhaps there is still anything there that is hindering our relationship with Him.

'Our relationship with our eternal Father must supercede all other things. We are His children, and as the time approaches He yearns to reveal more of Himself to each and everyone of us ... .

'Colossians 3:14-15, "And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful." '

1,601 posted on 03/18/2005 6:00:52 PM PST by JockoManning (
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To: Quix; JockoManning; All

Scripture that comes to mind being Revelation 12:10-11 "10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death."

And having said that, here's more highlighted from post #1588:

'"I have spoke to you as a father speaks to his own children. I have shown you what will be that you may prepare your hearts and strengthen your spirits for the day of battle.

'Dark days are soon coming upon the earth. Days of mourning and great sadness. I tarry for those who seek me with a pure heart. I give strength to those who seek me continually.

'The lawless one has been prepared, and he is ready to reveal himself. He awaits his release. He will come with a lying tongue and deceiving words. I will protect My own, and I will deliver them even out of the clutches of the enemy.

'Those that will be strong until the end, those that will be called to be living testimonies for my name's sake will receive the crown of life. Let righteousness be your banner, and My word be your guide. Be rooted in the truth. As the dawn comes to chase away the night, so will the darkness rule only for its allotted time. Be strong in the knowledge that I protect and watch over all who are Mine. Amen."'

1,602 posted on 03/18/2005 6:18:35 PM PST by JockoManning (
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To: Quix

highlighting item from post #1590:

'"The one who has his sin forgiven and has Jesus as Savior and Lord, is safe."'

1,603 posted on 03/18/2005 6:39:19 PM PST by JockoManning (
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To: Quix; JockoManning; All

'What i was led to understand was this tunnel is the time we now stand in. The ball with red yarn is a great lie, a great deception that is almost upon us and we can not escape it. only by standing in the Lord Yeshua/Word of God will be able to see though it. Where ever you are prepare NOW!!! You will have no time later.'

1,604 posted on 03/18/2005 6:45:33 PM PST by JockoManning (
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To: Quix

Matt 13

' ... Out of the three types, only one type was really fertile and became fruitful and mature. The other two types of believers either fell away or were stunted and unfruitful. Only one type of believing heart out of the three pleased the Lord.'

1,605 posted on 03/18/2005 6:55:42 PM PST by JockoManning (
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To: JockoManning

Would you be willing to elaborate please, about the believing hearts?

What were the two types who didn't meet God's criteria?

1,606 posted on 03/18/2005 9:16:33 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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Timothy Snodgrass

Storm Clouds On Horizon
Timothy Snodgrass
Mar 11, 2005



Recently while traveling across the beautiful green hills of Northern California towards the coast, I was taken in the Spirit to the San Francisco Bay area, and shown a coastline littered with ships lying broken upon the sandy shores; great military vessels, cruise ships, fishing boats and every manner of vessel, caught unaware by tsunami as great quakes rippled across the Pacific. Our message this winter to America was a call to prayer and repentance, for I believe that the 9.0 Sumatra quake was just a warning, not the big one; greater events are now approaching.

[QUIX NOTE: I felt that way at the time of the Sumatra quake. . . . that it was preliminary to something bigger and not that far off in time. We shall see]

Time has been bought for the North American Continent by the tears of the saints, sown upon the soil as apostolic and prophetic teams have been launched to guard the borders of the sea; yet the time bought with these tears is very limited. It is what we do with this time that will determine the destiny of many nations, islands and regions.

Looking across the Pacific I see storm clouds gathering on the horizon. Unless there is repentance, Indonesia has not seen the worst of what is yet to come.

[Qx: I much agree]

I am greatly concerned for the islands of the South Pacific. Who will walk the land, and sow tears of repentance and intercession for Australia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Polynesia and islands of the sea?

Who will sow tears of intercession for the lost and dying souls in China, Taiwan, Japan, Russia, Alaska and the Aleutian Islands? The harvest is great, but workers are few. Before teams of revivalist can be sent in to reap the harvest, God's special forces must be sent in first to prepare the way; prophetic and apostolic teams commissioned for specific tasks, who will leave a region with an entirely different atmosphere than before they came.

The anointing can calm seas, stabilize fault lines, cast out demonic principalities and powers, releasing the atmosphere of heaven in areas which have been captive to hell.

The Pacific Ring of Fire is awakening, and warnings will continue to increase in size and magnitude, until the veil of darkness is finally rent over this tiny blue planet, and the great Awakening begins; judgment and revival are now both imminent as we draw closer to the return of our Lord Jesus Christ; yet, some of these judgments can be offset, redirected, averted or lessened in magnitude through prayer, intercession, divinely inspired actions, fasting and obedience to unction of the Holy Spirit.


Timothy Snodgrass



1,607 posted on 03/18/2005 9:57:31 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

Matthew 13

3 Then He spoke many things to them in parables, saying: "Behold, a sower went out to sow. 4 And as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside; and the birds came and devoured them. 5 Some fell on stony places, where they did not have much earth; and they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth. 6 But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up and choked them. 8 But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. 9 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!"

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When seed is sown, some of it falls to the wayside and is devoured by birds, that refers to the folk who hear the word and they don't believe it, hence, "unbelievers".

Some of the sown seed is planted, that refers to folk who hear the word and do believe it, "believers".

Depending, though, on whether they have broken up the soil of their heart, the sown seed can fall on three types of ground and so the seed will either dry up and die, be choked by weeds, or be planted and increase:

1. stony places without much earth
2. thorny places
3. good fertile soil, which had been plowed and tilled and where the sown seed could take root, draw moisture, grow, and yield a bumper crop.

Personally, the way I prepare my heart so that's it is good soil where I can bear good fruit from the Word of God is that I pray. By this I mean that

I forgive others who have wronged me

I confess my sins

I state that I have faith in the Lord

I pray The Lord's Prayer

I pray for people and for groups and for situations needing God's intervention

I thank Him for His goodness

I ask Him for wisdom

I ask Him to guide me

I ask Him to make me more loving

I declare that I will avoid sin and I ask Him to help me avoid sin

I surrender to Him who I am, what I am doing, where I am going, and what I do or don't make of my life, and where I ultimately end up

I ask Him to continue molding me into the person He wants me to be

I ask Him to be with me in the furnaces I experience

I put all my faith and trust in His love for me, His care for me, and in His reliability because I know He will not only be with me everyday of my life but that He will also be with me when I die and for all eternity.

In addition to praying, also I try to obey His Word as I go through my daily life. I try to do justice and to love mercy and to walk humbly with my God.

That's how I break up the fallow ground. Hopefully then I will have a fruitful life so that I am blessing others, am pleasing the Lord, and am staying in God's will for my life.


1,608 posted on 03/19/2005 3:33:14 AM PST by JockoManning (
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THANKS TONS. Great prayer habits!


1,609 posted on 03/19/2005 8:16:03 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: JockoManning

THANKS TONS. Great prayer habits!


1,610 posted on 03/19/2005 8:16:09 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Paul Ciniraj

Ping to post #1421 and to the whole thread.


1,611 posted on 03/22/2005 4:30:45 PM PST by JockoManning (
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To: Quix
Passover ping, Quix. This is awesome!
1,612 posted on 03/23/2005 9:58:18 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (Terri's battle is NOT against flesh and blood....)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

"I Will Passover"
Beloved Shoshanna
Mar 22, 2005

Isaiah 26:20-21
Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. [21] For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

My child, my judgments are upon the earth. I will be looking for the blood that has been applied to your life. And your life will be revealed through the light that emanates through a lamp that is full. For it shall radiate for all to see, a light set upon a hill.

Yes, beloved I will passover, those who have paid the price of a sacrificed life, those who have been tested in the fires of affliction in the wilderness. Those who have prepared themselves in their secret chambers, who have shut the door to the world and have sought me early, drawing oil into their vessels.

Fear not beloved, no weapon formed against you shall prosper, every voice that has raised up against you in judgement shall be silenced, for the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall My covenant of My peace be removed says the Lord who has mercy upon you.

Beloved come now to the end of yourself, let not the arm of flesh rule you. Know that the life does not come from you but from Me, the Fountain of Living Waters. You must come to realize that nothing can come of self effort, realize that unless you are trusting completely in Me you cannot stand against the enemies plans to destroy you. Not by might, not by power but by My Spirit says the Lord.

For I have established you in righteousness and there is no need to fear the terror, for it shall not come near your house. For as you have been established in righteousness, so the blood has been applied, and your lamp a burning fire.

I have established you to do greater things than I have done in the earth, you are my hands, my feet, my mouth and so you shall speak My word to the lost, the sick, the dying and those in bondage, so you shall set the captive free, You shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover, you shall speak words of healing that they may be made whole as they give Me glory.

For you are of My remnant, it shall be well with you, for I will cause the enemy to entreat you well in the time of evil and affliction.

Open your heart to Me that I may plant good thing from my treasuries. For you have chosen Me over the world and the things of this life, you have not forsaken Me, and obey My voice when I speak so you shall ride upon the high hills.

Listen closely to Me, I am about to bring judgments into the earth, and I have much for you to do. Because you fear Me, beloved no fear shall come upon you, you shall have peace in the midst of the storm.

I am coming to do a new thing in the earth, every mouth shall proclaim My name, every mouth shall call upon Me, the God of Israel, Jehoveh Shalom.

Because you have paid the price you shall carry My word unto the uttermost parts of the earth. You shall be My vessel of honor and many shall come into the kingdom through you.

Behold as the fires of judgement go through the earth, you shall be my torch bearer, setting on fire those who cry unto Me for righteousness.

You shall not be afraid nor fear man, for what can they do to you, for you shall be as coals of fire in My hand as in the hand of the smith, so you shall ignite My instruments, that I have set apart for My use. Like a fire brand turning the embers so shall you be to Me. You have not known these things because you have not asked. You receive not because you ask not. I shall hold nothing back from you, ask Me and see.

Come and see, I shall restore the ancient ruins, I shall restore all that the evil one has stolen, I shall restore all things.

You shall know, for this have you been called, for such a time as this, for I shall hold back nothing from My beloved.

1,613 posted on 03/23/2005 10:00:03 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (Terri's battle is NOT against flesh and blood....)
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1,614 posted on 03/23/2005 10:45:13 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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Two Prophetic signs that we are in the end times;

REV 6.2 (Darby) And I saw: and behold, a white horse, and he that sat upon it having a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went forth conquering and that he might conquer.

I see the UN Army with its white painted tanks and vehicles as the white horse. They come in peace, yet they have a bow in that they are fully armed, but no arrows in that they rarely ever actually fight or shoot. They have a crown given to them because they simply do not have a country to have a crown from, they have no kingdom to crown them so the authority they have must be given to them. And they are going forth conquering, nation after nation, so that they may conquer for the New World Order.

Rev 6:3 And when it opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, Come [and see].
Rev 6:4 And another, a red horse, went forth; and to him that sat upon it, to him it was given to take peace from the earth, and that they should slay one another; and there was given to him a great sword.

I see the second seal as Islam. Islam was put into Jihad mode in the Middle East in the late 60's and early 70's by Russia training and arming the Arabs in the arts of insurgency. The goal was to destabilize the West's hold on the Oil Fields and it has worked very well. However it now has a life of it's own and has "gone forth" in a world wide Jihad. Russia and China is still feeding weapons and arms into the Jihad it therefore is riding a red horse. Jihad has indeed taken peace from the earth, men are killing men around the world. The Great Sword that is given to him is nuclear weapons.

Saddam made a deal with the French for a Nuclear Reactor. But when the time for the delivery of the fuel came Saddam made a change of plans, He refused to pay for the reactor unless the French delivered not fuel grade rods of 10% enriched uranium but weapons grade 90% fuel rods. Unusable in a reactor, but good for bombs. The French of course surrendered and delivered weapons grade uranium. Israel took out the reactor and you never hear what happened to the rods.

I believe that the rods, and processing equipment and the scientists of Saddam went to Pakistan where the research and fabrication was completed in neutral territory.

Islam is an Empire, not a Greek/Roman city state. So when Pakistan suddenly tested a bomb, the announced not that they had made a Pakistan bomb, but the Islamic Bomb.

Note that Egypt and Iran have both been busted with traces of enriched Plutonium. Plutonium is not what you make A bombs out of but H bombs. You cannot make a H Bomb go off without a A Bomb to create the plasma that is necessary to cause Plutonium to fusion. Without a fission bomb, you do not have the "blasting cap" for a fusion bomb.

The presence of Plutonium in Egypt and Iran says clearly that they have the bomb. Islam has the bomb and is in a scramble to buy the weapons systems to deliver it. All of Islam is buying up long range missile systems, one does not buy guns if one does not have a bullet to put in it.

So, to me the second seal, 3/4 of the way into it is where our time line points to. When the bomb finally is used, we will be into the third seal.

1,615 posted on 03/27/2005 3:57:45 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Happy Easter all!!

1,616 posted on 03/27/2005 4:14:29 AM PST by navygal
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2 Corinthians 4:17
Our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory.

1,617 posted on 04/25/2005 6:33:43 PM PDT by JockoManning (
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"The Document That Put Ratzinger on Top"
1,618 posted on 04/25/2005 6:39:31 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Hermana says:

had odd endtimes dream after work today. staying with me with some sort of strong feeling.

Hermana says:

would have to sort it out and try to put words to it.

Hermana says:

It was more of an odd jumble of drastic life threatening situations ... I was in each one ...

Hermana says:

Most of my loved ones had died, I was alone, surviving by my wits, in danger, hiding, begging others for help ... don't remember a lot,  just the feeling mostly.

Hermana says:

the feeling is so strong that it was TEOTWAWKI ... and christians were being hunted and killed and there was martial law or something

Hermano says:


Hermana says:

and then one woman who I know in real life for almost 30 years showed up and she had fallen away from the Lord and she was disfigured and

Hermana says:

alcoholic and had some hideous chin whiskers that were 36 inches long and she had tied knots in them ... and she told me she and her husband had just had a fight about a button on a rocking chair scratching the furniture.

Hermana says:

The End Of The World As We Know It.

Hermana says:


Hermana says:

and I was aghast that this woman was worried about a button on a chair scratching the wall.

Hermana says:

and have known her 30 years, am still friends w/ her and her hubby ... that's all. My point is that the feeling of teotwawki has stayed with me since then.



1,619 posted on 04/25/2005 6:41:54 PM PDT by JockoManning (
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1,620 posted on 04/25/2005 7:18:51 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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Hmmmm. Sobering dream of your friend.


1,621 posted on 04/25/2005 7:24:56 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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Micah 4:2

He will teach us His ways, and we shall walk in His paths.


1,622 posted on 04/27/2005 3:51:19 PM PDT by JockoManning (
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1,623 posted on 08/23/2005 6:30:15 PM PDT by JockoManning (
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See post 1530 and onward for notes on Angels of the Continents as seen by Samuel Doctorian.

1,624 posted on 08/23/2005 7:57:18 PM PDT by JockoManning (
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Marker, another dream.

1,625 posted on 08/23/2005 8:48:49 PM PDT by JockoManning (
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Kim Clement
Prophesied March 9, 2007--Anaheim, California

The Spirit of God says, "They would say this shall not be done, for this generation has turned away from God. Do not say it cannot be done. Is there anything too hard for the Lord? Tonight, I will take great pleasure in proving Myself. Show Me a problem, and I will solve it. Bring Me a wall, and I will break it down. Build a tower, and I will confound your language. Nothing will stop Me from penetrating into the darkest, darkest regions and hearing the sound of My righteous people."

"There is a place for you that I have kept for this hour. People don't even realize what I'm doing and where I'm working. I have not forgotten My promise for this year. There will be three great moments of favor. The month of March, the month of May, and the month of October have been set aside as months of great divine and unique favor for the Body of Christ and the Kingdom of God. This month, I will uncover so many things. This month, I will do things that men never dreamed would happen."

"This nation shall be brought to a place of great, great honor as the saints of the Most High God have prayed. Take note--this favor that I have granted unto you is yours for the taking. I encourage you to take it with great extravagance. The favor that I speak about shall bring about a speediness and will bring about an acceleration. Did I not promise you that this is the season of multiplication? You can not stop the season from coming upon you. This is the season of multiplication, acceleration and favor."

God said, "I wanted a platform and I found it in Southern California. I wanted to stand, once again, where once many, many years ago, there was a great revolution that took place. In this territory, there was a great movement that came--they called themselves hippies, and the Jesus movement came forth. From this region, many great things happened; many great miracles took place; great Churches were raised up, and many people were reached in the streets. Baptisms of the Spirit took place in the places that they least expected. A spirit of powerful religion grabbed a hold of them."

"Now the time is right, and the season is right for another revolution far greater than the Jesus movement. Can you not taste that which is in the atmosphere that will breakthrough and reach the unreachable and touch the untouchable? The same ingredients are present that were present in the 60's." Now God says, "That is over, and it's time to bury it. For what's about to be raised up will be far greater than what took place in the Jesus movement. Get ready, for the Heavens are opened up to make a declaration that this revolution has begun in Southern California."

God says, "Watch the children, for they will begin to prophesy, and they will have dreams and visions." God says, "Watch how I take the 8, 9, and 10-year olds and raise them up to be the ones that will speak forth. I will extend the years of the elderly that they may be there to cover the young men and women of this day."

"Alzheimer's is being destroyed. The cure for AIDS has already been discovered and about to be released," says the Lord. "For in this time that the young men and women rise up, they will begin something that will go on and on and on. There will be no end to this that I begin. This that I am speaking about, as it started in Southern California so again, you have been chosen to bring forth this great revival."

"In the presence of My people, who would handle this great thing? May this announcement be made, 'I will honor the men of yesterday, the greats that stood the test of time, but died before their time.' They pioneered a movement," and yet, God says, "that has now come to an end. The seeds that have been sown have been sown. Religion has once again clothed the Son of Man, endeavoring to place Him before mankind, acceptable. It is now time for Him to arise again, and to come to a generation who are dissatisfied."

The miraculous intervention of God shall begin in the month of March. God says, "I wish to keep My prophets in the midst of this movement. They will exalt and acknowledge the Church and the governing powers, but yet, they will completely annihilate the power of control--the misrepresentation of the Christ that is about to raise from prisons and go into the depths of sin and despair, and once again, raise up a generation, this time, with no hair. No, it shall not be the hippies," but God says, "As you know now, you have a strange looking generation upon you, and I love them."

"Give Me your children. Give Me one child, and I will give you ten thousand swords. Hannah, would you give me a Samuel?" If you would, God says He would annihilate the Eli-controlled priesthood. God says, "Hear My voice one more time, what I shall do, shall bring about dead bones, and I will make them an army--your children, your grandchildren, and those yet unborn inside of you. Every form of spiritual barrenness will now be locked. This that you call a revolution," says the Lord, "starts with the same words, 'REV.' They want revival. A revolution must take place before there is a great revival."

Kim Clement
Prophetic Image Expressions

February 16, 2007 — Toledo, OH

The gates of hell shall not prevail. The Spirit of God says this year tremendous favor will be granted to My people, the elect of the Lord. Who is the one that would say I am the elect of God? Who is the one that would say, I believe that God has elected me, set me aside. The Spirit of God says there will be three great moments of favor that will take place during this year. This is your year to multiply and accelerate.

Your enemy has focused on this nation, made a declaration that we will bring to them great evil. I have made promises that I will not allow the enemy to dictate what shall take place in the month of March, May and October, three months says the Lord I shall grant an unusual multiplication of favor. Favor to those who are struggling, favor to those who cannot see the breakthrough. There shall be a destruction of barrenness, no more barrenness. Mark these words for tonight I give you three swords. Three swords of favor, they're in your hand, in your heart and in your life - you can use them or you can lay them down for somebody else to take. The Spirit of God says I will give you three months of divine favor. There will rise up an enemy the month before the favorable month. When the enemy comes against you like a flood, I will raise up a standard against him. There is a brand new dimension of favor I'm giving to you. There is a standard that I have set and My people will climb to a greater height. This year has been set aside for you to destroy the power of the barren one that is inside. No more barrenness only fruitfulness, this is My promise, now would you take this sword and use it says the Spirit of the Lord.

God tells me to say this to the nation tonight, I will prove Myself and I will show Myself not on Christian television, I will always manifest My power through My people. I am about to manifest Myself on secular media through an unusual course of events that will take place that will cause this nation to look back again to Iraq, to look back again to the Middle East and say My God how could we have missed that? God says I will shake you but the shaking will bring about a divine contradiction. I will cause the government of this nation and your President to be put in a place of vindication because of an unusual manifestation that will take place before the end of his term. This is not about Republican or Democrat, this is about My kingdom. I will shake it and I will show myself through the secular media they will have no choice.

Even Larry King will have to say, "I heard the King, the one and only King". You say that's impossible, God says watch Me! God said I'll even take ABC and I'll go there and prove Myself because God said you see I spoke about the many deaths of many famous people that would take place. You watched it at the end of the year and God said each one of them represented something that's taking place in this nation, whether it be of a spirit of evil or good -- whether a man that was upright died or a man that was evil.

Even as Anna Nicole died there is a reason. There is something that must be stated from the mouth of the prophet regarding this lady's death. For God says the whole nation mourns but I mourned long before she died for she was crying out to me three days before she died, crying out, "God help me, I'm lost, I'm stuck". Does anybody realize that three days before her death, I was there by her side and I was touching the lady that they call Anna Nicole Smith? God tells you America it shall also be a warning to many that I'm about to judge the perversion in this nation. God says I will show Myself strong and raise up people like her to minister to those that are in the streets. There shall be a resurrection because the enemy took her but God says I received her into My arms.

1,626 posted on 04/01/2007 3:54:49 PM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online
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1,627 posted on 04/01/2007 3:57:35 PM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online
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The Prison Breaker
Bill Yount
Hagerstown, Maryland USA

The Year Of 'The Prison Breaker' Anointing...."Many Josephs In Prison Are Now Being Summoned By The King!" Psalm 105:20
March 22, 2007
Psalm 105:20 "The king sent and loosed Joseph from prison and let him go free."

Recently I was invited into a prison to teach about the shofar and of course to blow it. The educational department invited me which is very rare for it is difficult to get into prisons unless a chaplain invites you. But since it is the year of the shofar I was not surprised at the invitation of the educational department for the prisoners to learn more about them. As I taught and explained what I sensed the purpose of the blowing represented for that night, I felt expectation rising in that class room and also on the face of the administrator who invited me in. At the end of the teaching I explained how the breath of God is released as the shofar is blown. Of course they wanted me to blow it but did they or even myself realize what was about to happen in the Spirit throughout that prison and even other prisons far and near? As they stood to their feet with great expectancy the blowing of the shofar sounded like a piercing blast of victory penetrating deep into the prison cells and rang throughout the corridors proclaiming liberty to all the captives in the prison house! Some prison guards had said they heard a siren going off. Others just stood wondering what was that all about? I sensed the Father above nodding His head in agreement as though confirming the sound with "'yes' that will do it!"


In the Spirit as the shofar sounded, I immediately saw a Jacob's ladder being extended down inside of many prisons and jails with angels ascending and descending, rushing upon prison walls as though they were hitting the ground running carrying Kingly messages of favor, promotion and unusual visitations coming to many prisoners. God's breath going into the prisons would bring conviction falling like rain to the prisons causing prisoners to cry out with repentance and Godly sorrow for their sins and sins they had committed against others and forgiveness flowed toward lawyers and judges and prison authorities whom they had thought wronged them. Grace was abounding now.


I saw angels with swords drawn ready to cut time for some prisoners. Some who were willing to stay right where they were to be a light in the darkness and felt they were not quite ready for the street seemed to attract these flashing swords towards their lengthy sentences. Perhaps God knew their hearts that those who felt they would never make it on the street would be the ones who would make it as they would have to lean hard on Him and He would be their strength for the outside world. Some who seemed so confident and thought they could set the world on fire were causing the angels to back off and put their swords in their sheathes. Many who thought they were ready for the outside world really weren't and those who thought they weren't ready really were in the eyes of the Lord for His strength would be made perfect in their weakness.


In the Spirit I could over hear some prison wardens and officials discussing some of the prisoners' destinies who they knew were doomed and sentenced to a lot of time saying..."How can this be? Where are those records and files? Without that record or file there is not enough evidence to keep him here! He will walk out the front gate a free man!


2 Corinthians 1:9 "But we had the sentence of death in ourselves that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raises the dead: 10. Who delivered us from so great a death and doth deliver: in whom we trust that He will yet deliver us."

'Death row' angels were descending to interfere in the affairs of men and women and the death assignment over them. Some angels were present to stay the hand of death while other angels were present to welcome others into the presence of Jesus. Those who knew the Lord began to shine brighter and brighter in their countenance as the moment of death drew near. Like Stephen, the glory of God was radiating from their face as they could see Jesus standing at the Father's right hand! Oh what glory! They never seemed like they were tasting death at all! They were just going home where they belonged. Some guards were weeping and finding life as these were walking through the valley of the shadow of death and never stopping until they reached home.

MATTHEW 4:16 "The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up."


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March 19, 2007

I saw the Spirit of the Lord as if it was a great ocean beginning to recede off a great shore line. The time was a season of when the tide was beginning to go out. The Body of Christ was standing in the water, practically immersed in it. But as the tide gradually began to go out, we began to be gradually exposed as though we could no longer be covered by the water. It seemed we stood spiritually naked with the tide still going out. As the water lowered, many chains and bondages could be seen holding many of God's people, hindering them and stopping them from going on to follow the Spirit which was gradually going out from them, leaving them helpless and powerless as though the Spirit was exposing their sin and weakness and at the same time departing from them.

Others were able to go further on after His Spirit but the tide seemed to pick up a faster pace and there was a great cry as the tide rapidly went out and even the very elect and righteous began to cry out, "My God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken me?" As the Body of Christ stood still with exhaustion and weariness and great discouragement, the ground beneath turned into dry land where no water was like a desert. The Church could only see the tide going out a long way off and could no longer experience the move of the Spirit. On the contrary, what was left was their sins, bondage and helplessness. As the church was exposed and stood as though naked, a great cry of mocking was heard from those who were back on the shore who had never touched the water. The world was seeing the shame and sin and God was being reproached. This time, as this was happening seemed forever to God's people - as though separated from God and nothing happening but failure.

Many turned back from looking towards the direction of the tide going out and after a while began to walk back towards the shore from where they came because they just gave up and were tired of just waiting and waiting, convinced that God had forsaken them by all appearances.

A remnant stayed and stood still, waiting upon the Lord, confessing their sins and repenting and interceding for all the world, realizing it is not by might, nor by power, nor anything but only by the Spirit of the Living God. Then it seemed that the earth stood still and waters going out even stopped and a strange calmness came. And then the Lord spoke: "The tide is beginning to turn. The tide is beginning to turn. And the tide is on its way back in! This is the tsunami of My glory that my earth has been waiting for!"

"Lift up your heads, O ye gates and be ye lifted up you everlasting doors and the King of Glory shall come in. Who is this King of Glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle. For the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof, the world and they that dwell therein. He hath founded it upon the seas and established it upon the floods."


The tide is beginning to turn and the first great wave of the Spirit I saw coming in was a mighty wave of deliverance upon God's people. Joel 2:32 says, "And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be delivered; for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance as the Lord has said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call." There will be a great ministry of deliverance given to God's people. As this wave comes in, there will be a great casting out of demonic powers by the finger of God.


The next greater wave was named restoration. This wave coming in was bringing in multitudes who were back-slidden and people whose faith had been ship-wrecked. God was saying, "I am married to the back-slider."


The next still greater wave was a wave of salvation. There was more than one wave of this. It was wave after wave after wave. These waves were bring in the lost. I mean 'lost' lost. These waves were bringing the lost up out of the lowest places of the earth. It seemed as though the sea was giving up her dead, as though these souls were coming up from the pit itself. There were pornographic stars, mass murderers, witches, many from the occult and Eastern religions. Souls who had committed horrendous, indescribable crimes, It was as though Hell itself was vomiting up these souls. Hell was letting go of them. The gates of Hell were opening and these souls were being released! These last waves had the power to bring up the very bottom of the ocean.

As these waves kept coming in, the waves of salvation began covering more and more of the shore and coming upon the earth. Like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord was coming in, lifting His Standard upon the earth itself and multitudes were be saved as the waves of salvation continued to literally cover the earth. As these waves increased in magnitude and became humongous tidal waves, the Lord said, "Truly as I live, all the earth shall be filled with the glory of the Lord like the waters cover the sea."

1,628 posted on 04/01/2007 4:16:18 PM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online
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Five generally accepted historical facts:

1.) Abraham lived around 2000 BCE.

2.) Old Testament compiled circa 1200 BCE and 200 BCE.

3.) New Testament compiled circa 45 CE and 140 CE.

4.) Muhammad’s was born circa 570 CE.

5.) Qur’an was compiled concurrent and post Muhammad.

Qur’an verse 003.067: Ibrahim was not a Jew nor a Christian but he was (an) upright (man), a Muslim, and he was not one of the polytheists.

Question: How is the Qur’an compiled by “borrowing” from the Old Testament & New Testament, the Jewish and Christian Traditions, yet Abraham is labeled a Muslim Qur’an verse 003.067?

Note by comparison that the Christian outwardly acknowledge the Old Testament, the Jewish Tradition, but Christian’s don’t claim Abraham or Moses were a Christians.

There is in fact a number of figures in the Qur’an from other traditions: Isma’il, Isaac, Jacob, to name a few. Jesus is also in the Qur’an referred to as the “Messenger of Allah.”

People these days ask, why do they hate us???

Radical Muslims have a crisis of confidence that has deadly implications. Jews are a people and Judaism is their common religion. For the radical muslim, they must destroy the Jewish People the Jewish Tradition and lay claim the Jewish Tradition as the Muslim Tradition. The reality that the Qur’an descended from the Torah, the Jewish Tradition, must be dispelled. There is a stuggle to rewrite fact five above. This is not unlike the Nazi exploits in the 1930’s-40’s to establish pure historical lineage.

This is why carrying a bible in a Muslim country will get you killed!

And, the non-radicals Muslims will just step over your body -that’s another story. Know that the Muslim religion is based upon the teachings and life of Mohammed and is closely linked to state governance!

1,631 posted on 09/28/2007 8:25:23 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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The Muslim religion is based upon the teachings and life of Mohammed and is closely linked to state governance:

Christians (and Jews) could not be freed from their ignorance until Muhammad came bringing the Qur’an as clear evidence (Al-Bayyinah 98:1).

Any such true believers will submit to Allah by accepting Muhammad as the prophet of Islam, i.e. they will become Muslims. (Âl ‘Imran 3:198)

True Christians will not love Muhammad’s enemies. (Al-Mujadilah 58:22)

Some Jews and Christians are true believers, accepting Islam: most are transgressors. (Âl ‘Imran 3:109)

Many monks and rabbis are greedy for wealth and prevent people from coming to Allah. (At-Taubah 9:34,35)

Christians and Jews who disbelieve in Muhammad will go to hell. (Al-Bayyinah 98:6)

Muslims should not take Christians or Jews for friends. (Al-Ma’idah 5:51) They must fight against Christians and Jews who refuse Islam until they surrender, pay the poll-tax and are humiliated. (At-Taubah 9:29)

‘Isa (Jesus) was simply a created human being, and a slave of Allah. (An-Nisa’ 4:172; Âl ‘Imran 3:59)

Islam appropriates the history of Judaism and Christianity to itself:

When Muhammad linked the name of Allah to the religious histories of Judaism and Christianity, this was a way to claim them for Islam. In the light of later events, the claim that Islam was the original religion, and that all preceding prophets were Muslims, can be regarded as an attempt to appropriate the histories of other religions for Islam. The effect is to rob Christianity and Judaism of their own histories.

Consider that many Biblical sites, such as the tombs of the Hebrew Patriarchs and the Temple Mount, are claimed by Islam as Muslim sites, not Jewish or Christian ones. After all, the Qur’an tells us that Abraham ‘was a Muslim’. Under Islamic rule all Jews and Christians were banned from such sites.

The place of the Jewish scriptures in Christianity is completely different from the place of the Bible in Islam:

There is a fundamental difference between Christian attitudes to the Jewish scriptures and Islamic attitudes to the Bible. Christians accept the Hebrew scriptures. They were the scriptures of Jesus and the apostles. They were the scriptures of the early church. The whole of Christian belief and practice rests upon them. Core Christian concepts such as ‘Messiah’ (Greek ‘Christos’), ‘Spirit of God’, ‘Kingdom of God’ and ‘salvation’ are deeply rooted in the Hebrew Biblical traditions.

We note also that Christian seminaries devote considerable effort to studying the Hebrew scriptures. This is an integral part of training for Christian ministry. The Hebrew scriptures are read (in translation) every Sunday in many churches all around the world.

In contrast Islam’s treatment of the Bible is one of complete disregard. Although it purports to ‘verify’ all earlier prophetic revelation, the Qur’an is oblivious to the real contents of the Bible. The claim that Christians and Jews deliberately corrupted their scriptures is made without evidence, and this only serves to cover up the Qur’an’s historical inadequacies. Muslim scholars rarely have an informed understanding of the Bible or of biblical theology and so remain ignorant of these realities.

Some contemporary Muslim voices on Jesus:

Yasser Arafat, addressing a press conference at the United Nations in 1983 called Jesus “the first Palestinian fedayeen who carried his sword” (i.e. he was a freedom fighter for Islam).


‘Isa (Jesus) of the Qur’an is a product of fable, imagination and ignorance. When Muslims venerate this ‘Isa, they have someone different in mind from the Yeshua or Jesus of the Bible and of history. The ‘Isa of the Qur’an is based on no recognized form of historical evidence, but on fables current in seventh century Arabia.

The Jesus of the gospels is the base upon which Christianity developed. By Islamicizing him, and making of him a Muslim prophet who preached the Qur’an, Islam destroys Christianity and takes over all its history. It does the same to Judaism.

In the end times as described by Muhammad, ‘Isa becomes a warrior who will return with his sword and lance. He will destroy the Christian religion and make Islam the only religion in all the world. Finally at the last judgement he will condemn Christians to hell for believing in the crucifixion and the incarnation.

This final act of the Muslim ‘Isa reflects Islam’s apologetic strategy in relation to Christianity, which is to deny the Yeshua of history, and replace him with a facsimile of Muhammad, so that nothing remains but Islam.

“The Muslim supersessionist current claims that the whole biblical history of Israel and Christianity is Islamic history, that all the Prophets, Kings of Israel and Judea, and Jesus were Muslims. That the People of the Book should dare to challenge this statement is intolerable arrogance for an Islamic theologian. Jews and Christians are thus deprived of their Holy Scriptures and of their salvific value.”

1,632 posted on 09/28/2007 9:15:27 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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There has been great tyranny in the name of Judaism and Christianity in the past without question. However, the great tyranny in the name of Islam is only beginning and has the potential to dwarf the preceeding.

“IN THE END”, declared Tony Blair, terrorism “can only be taken on and defeated by the [Muslim] community itself”. This statement was made two days after the 7/7 London bombings. Note that this statement was widely criticized and the usually liberal mantra was rolled out apologetically once again e.g. poverty, inequity, discrimination, etc.

Meanwhile there are efforts everywhere to force feed understanding of Islam. Mandatory courses for college freshmen the most notable example.

Does the extremist/minority Muslim agenda by default serve the majority Muslim agenda in the liberal/socialist Europe?

1,633 posted on 09/29/2007 10:08:45 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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I believe the Muslim agenda is all one. It is always better to criticize, defeat or kill a Christian or a Jew than to speak badly of a Muslem. They will always be united in one way or another, despite the “moderate” label. Only Jesus can deliver them from their religious prison.

1,634 posted on 09/29/2007 7:48:26 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Quix

Blast from the past, nearly five years later !!!

1,635 posted on 09/15/2009 4:58:15 PM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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1,636 posted on 09/15/2009 5:05:13 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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Tues. Sept. 15th 2009

Adnan Oktar (the Muslim leader that wants the 3rd Jewish leader)

1 p.m. PST

watch a video promo here:

“Muslim leader wants Temple rebuilt”

By Joel Richardson

© 2009

In a historically unprecedented development, a famous Turkish Muslim leader and a prominent group of Israeli rabbis have joined together on one of their declared goals, to rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. Adnan Oktar, who uses the pen name of Harun Yahya, is a controversial but highly influential Muslim intellectual and author with over 65 million of his books in circulation worldwide.

Oktar recently met with three representatives from the re-established Jewish Sanhedrin, a group of 71 Orthodox rabbis and scholars from Israel, to discuss how religious Muslims, Jews and Christians can work together.

The objectives of the alliance include waging a joint intellectual and spiritual battle against the worldwide growing tide of irreligiousness, unbelief and immorality. But even more unusual is their agreement with regard to the need to rebuild the Jewish Temple, a structure Oktar refers to as the “Masjid (Mosque)” or the “Palace of Solomon.” An official statement about the meeting has been published on the Sanhedrin’s website. Concluding the statement is the following call:

Out of a sense of collective responsibility for world peace and for all humanity, we have found it timely to call to the world and exclaim that there is a way out for all peoples. It is etched in a call to all humanity: We are all the sons of one father, the descendants of Adam, and all humanity is but a single family. Peace among nations will be achieved through building the House of G-d, where all peoples will serve as foreseen by King Solomon in his prayers at the dedication of the First Holy Temple.

Come let us love and respect one another, and love and honor and hold our heavenly Father in awe. Let us establish a house of prayer in His name in order to worship and serve Him together, for the sake of His great compassion. He surely does not want the blood of His creations spilled, but prefers love and peace among all mankind.

We pray to the Almighty Creator, that you harken to our Call. Together - each according to his or her ability - we shall work towards the building of the House of Prayer for All Nations on the Temple Mount in peace and mutual understanding.

1,637 posted on 09/15/2009 5:36:47 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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Thank you, Quix. God’s blessings to you and yours. Lots of dots to connect.

1,638 posted on 09/15/2009 5:48:51 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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1,639 posted on 09/15/2009 6:49:16 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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That last paragraph is chilling to say the least...

[Oh, and call me ignorant if you want, but when in the heck did they put back together the Sanhedrin? If I were them I would’ve chosen a different name for their group of Rabbis and religious scholars... I never thought there would actually be a NEW Sanhedrin!!! Just shocked about that for some reason. Not liking it one bit, really. Have to admit that while I love the Jewish PEOPLE, I have NO love for the Sanhedrin, looks like they aren’t going to be able to change that in me with these actions...]

1,640 posted on 09/15/2009 6:53:31 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF :
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Certainly Christians would have pause about the name Sandrihedrin.

However, in their traditions, it must be a hallowed name.

1,641 posted on 09/15/2009 7:34:07 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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To: Quix

I understand what you are saying and I did consider that (for the most part AFTER I wrote my comment). Given that this was the first I had heard a new group had been put together, and their first action I had heard of was to talk about restoring a temple where they would encourage us all to pray together AS ONE — well, that just pricked at something in me... Going to have to pray on that a bit to see how deep this goes in me, and why...

It just seems like a really bad “PR” move on their part if their stated intent is to bring Christians, Muslims, and Jews together... ya know? Like I said, I’m going to have to pray on this a bit.

Plus, I need a good night’s sleep and I’m a little “testy” at the moment. I really do hope I haven’t offended any of my Jewish friends here by saying what I did...

Saying I have “no love” for this group of Rabbis and scholars isn’t exactly true, either (already got “pulled up short” on that one right after I posted). Ultimately, we are ALL children of God, and I respect them as such - and I DO have respect them for following what they believe is a good and righteous path even if I completely and totally disagree with them.

The anger I’m feeling is quite unexpected, really, and I’m not sure where it’s coming from... It was just as if upon reading your post something in me just screamed out - NO! Like I said - not sure where that’s coming from and I will pray on it.

1,642 posted on 09/15/2009 8:26:51 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF :
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1,643 posted on 09/15/2009 8:30:57 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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Well, on THAT point we DEFINITELY agree! LOL

And, perhaps that is exactly what I am reacting to and NOT the name chosen by this group. It’s just so strange - the feeling I have... The image in my head when I reflect on my anger is like Jesus in the temple turning over the tables of the money-changers. It’s just all SO wrong!

I have to keep reminding myself that this has already been written and there is nothing any of us can do to prevent these things from coming to pass.

We still have a part to play, and we can still HELP God and His angels, but we can’t prevent any of this.

1,644 posted on 09/15/2009 8:46:45 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF :
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Well put.


1,645 posted on 09/15/2009 8:53:47 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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I take it that this person who is giving the prayer has not read the Prophets about the end times. God paints a very different picture of what will happen than this rosy can’t we all just get along stuff. God said there would be forever enmity between the child of the promise and the child of the flesh.

1,646 posted on 09/15/2009 9:10:20 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, BANG BANG HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN)
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Though I don’t know what that would look like during the Millenium.

Maybe they will eventually be put in a different multiverse?


1,647 posted on 09/15/2009 9:18:55 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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Fascinating. I had no idea the Sanhedrin had been reconstructed. That gave me goosebumps.

1,648 posted on 09/15/2009 10:16:01 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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Actually, IIRC, the Sanhedrin was constructed several years ago—at least a few years ago.

I’ve posted something about it on FR at least a time or 3.

Yes, it’s goose bump material, alright.

For those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

Thanks for your kind reply.

Do you have any sense from The Lord about the next 30-60 days?

1,649 posted on 09/15/2009 10:19:11 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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I believe that this is a good summary of SOME key evidences and their related Scriptures.

One you left out, and the one that "seals" it for me is Paul Crouch's contention that the "flying scroll" prophecy of Zechariah 5:2 is absolutely, unquestionably fulfilled in the TBN broadcast satellites, two of which fit perfectly in the shuttle cargo bay. Paul definitely has his finger on the pulse of Bible prophecy. And don't you just dig his wife's hair?

Is this were you two first met on FR?

1,650 posted on 09/16/2009 5:49:56 AM PDT by marbren
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